Human vs. Evlaan: Red Mage

[Sepukku]

Until mid-70s, when a plethora of HP>MP gear becomes available, Taru RDM are actually the most effective. The handful of MND points is easily adjusted for by gear/food, and Taru RDM don't even have to work at maintaining the 1:1 HP/MP ratio that optimizes Convert, which means Taru RDM have a significant chunk of extra MP to spend every 10 minutes.

In my XP gear, my ratio is 738 HP to 754 MP, Im a taru. Elfs I heard (I dont join 2-RDM PTs) are roughly like 8500-550 at my level (With AF on). INT is the RDM stat of choice for Dynamis, for sleeping. Taru wins easily (not to mention on MP). But for hume vs elvaan, Hume wins over elvaans too. I blacklist any RDM who I see meleeing 51+ in an XP thats pulling High VTs or anything IT. (Tough and Low-Medium VT its ok aslong as youre not main healing and youre still enfeebling and refreshing). A lot of RDM say their elemental nukes start really dragging 50+, I -STILL- rarely see a resist on IT's with Ice Staff equipped, where an Elvaan will be crying cause he wasted 80+ MP on a 30 damage Blizzard-2.

Additionally for the food/gear arguement saying "But Ill have errant, AF, or whatever else for +MP and +INT" isnt really valid, because the Taru or Hume will have it too.

Judging jobs on looks is stupid, you learn to like your characters appearance, it grows on you anyways. I hated my look in AF Body and I learned to like it, and when I got my Hat it was ugly, but nowadays youll never see me without it. I even fish with it on.

[tazirai]

Red Mage of Legend in FFXI = Elf(nuff said)

The main rdm in the game is Curillas father. RDM AF starts in Sandoria. If you want uber be taru RDM.
If you want to enjoy the job without worrying about Stats and what others think of you so much, Be whatever you want.

I hate how this game has come down to just numbers...grrr:mad:

[Sepukku]

Oh trust me, Im all for playing for fun and not numbers, Im also a Tarutaru 42-MNK who can't get over the fact that Raging Fists (RF) average the same damage as a THF's Viper Bite (VB), yet I get no invite. Sure, Distortion does 200-350 damage at my level, but the fact my punches do 30-50 (usually in the 40-50 average with Berserk which is up 60% of the time) per and the THFs dagger does 3-7 damage a swing should make up for the SC's chunk of damage. Not to mention I dont need my 2-hour to backup tank should the PLD, NIN, or WAR bite a bullet, where as THF would have trouble getting hate off the dieing WHM, and even if he did, he'd need his 2 hour to stay alive. Not to mention Taru MNK is so styleish.

But I always find myself LFP 4-6 hours with no invite ; ;.

[Synbios]

Originally posted by Sepukku
Oh trust me, Im all for playing for fun and not numbers, Im also a Tarutaru 42-MNK who can't get over the fact that Raging Fists (RF) average the same damage as a THF's Viper Bite (VB), yet I get no invite. Sure, Distortion does 200-350 damage at my level, but the fact my punches do 30-50 (usually in the 40-50 average with Berserk which is up 60% of the time) per and the THFs dagger does 3-7 damage a swing should make up for the SC's chunk of damage. Not to mention I dont need my 2-hour to backup tank should the PLD, NIN, or WAR bite a bullet, where as THF would have trouble getting hate off the dieing WHM, and even if he did, he'd need his 2 hour to stay alive. Not to mention Taru MNK is so styleish.

But I always find myself LFP 4-6 hours with no invite ; ;.

Raging Fist is good, but main reason why MNKs hardly get party is cause of the misconceptions, and the fact that Fusion has not much good starters. When I levelled my MNK, I find myself either soloing WS, or trying very hard to find a SAM or RNG to renkei with. :\

[Miriamel]

Well. Lvl66 RDM (as of yesterday). HP:966 MP:718 (BLM sub). Add food and I just so break 800MP.

MND when I toss out enfeebles (add in AF body&enfeebling torque): 65+18 = 83
INT when I burst (add in elemental torque+AF hat+HQ staff): 56+28+food = 84-89 (depending on what food I felt like using)

This is pre-lvl70 JSE and pre-Zenith. I don't outdo everyone, but I certainly out-do most.

[Sepukku]

Taru RDM's MND is so gimp -.-

Yes, Im a real big fan of Tachi:Kagero opening my Fusions, especially cause my party (its my party cause I'm always making them and not getting invites) can also do Distortion since theres a SAM to open both SCs.

[Rai|Kye]

Originally posted by Miriamel
Well. Lvl66 RDM (as of yesterday). HP:966 MP:718 (BLM sub). Add food and I just so break 800MP.

MND when I toss out enfeebles (add in AF body&enfeebling torque): 65+18 = 83
INT when I burst (add in elemental torque+AF hat+HQ staff): 56+28+food = 84-89 (depending on what food I felt like using)

This is pre-lvl70 JSE and pre-Zenith. I don't outdo everyone, but I certainly out-do most.

thats nice but a Hume/mithra with similiar gear would still "outdo" you.

taru can "outdo" without even buying expensive gear.

that u "outdo" every firstjob Redmage, no doubt but a some with atleast 1 more 60+ job, i dont think so.

not only you can obtain awesome gear.

[Miriamel]

Didn't say that, but let's face it and be realistic. Most don't, won't ever, and sure as hell don't have access to +55MP +4INT mitts and similar pieces for other spots. And about 30 merit points done.

As for Taru, I want to see them have my ease with enfeebling. They need to make up for it as much as I need to make up for my lack of INT, and successfully do.

Edit: Talking about merits, make that MP 728 now.

Sure there are people that out-do me, but any race can. Even my own. It's just that most don't. Don't invest the time, money, or whatever. There are few who actually do, no matter the race. Hell there have been many taru BLMs in my BLM career that were weaker than me. It all comes down to dedication and equipment, lastly.

[Pitlourde]

What is more important when the skillchain is about to start, hitting the burst, or Dispelling that Cocoon the Crawlers just threw up?

As RDM we spend the majority of our time (and MP) enfeebling. Bursting the skillchain with a nuke is something we do when we can, but there are other priorities.

So, what if a Taru can burst for 30 more points of damage than an Elvaan. We aren't Black Mages! It doesn't really matter if our nukes are resisted anyway, but if we fail to keep Paralyze and Slow up we are a bad RDM.

If you honestly think Taru = Uber RDM, that's fine. Keep kidding yourself. Everyone is actually very impressed when you MB for 300 right after the BLM bursts for 900.

LOL

[Jei]

Originally posted by Pitlourde
What is more important when the skillchain is about to start, hitting the burst, or Dispelling that Cocoon the Crawlers just threw up?

As RDM we spend the majority of our time (and MP) enfeebling. Bursting the skillchain with a nuke is something we do when we can, but there are other priorities.

So, what if a Taru can burst for 30 more points of damage than an Elvaan. We aren't Black Mages! It doesn't really matter if our nukes are resisted anyway, but if we fail to keep Paralyze and Slow up we are a bad RDM.

Totally agree with this part. I would dispel asap in this case. MB is fun and somewhat helpful but not our priority (I mainly MB as an excuse to get my elemental skill up ;p)

[Miriamel]

Yeah, I prioritize dispel above pretty much everything else. The funny thing about RDM is that you have a list in your head that you go down of what to cast, lol. Don't really have that with any other job. At least not long lists. x.x;

[Synbios]

Originally posted by Sepukku
Taru RDM's MND is so gimp -.-

Yes, Im a real big fan of Tachi:Kagero opening my Fusions, especially cause my party (its my party cause I'm always making them and not getting invites) can also do Distortion since theres a SAM to open both SCs.

Godlin Mushpot is your friend. +10 MND, 3 hour, and only 1.1k each from NPC in Jeuno. Perfect for Taru RDMs. Elvaan RDMs doesn't have +10 INT food available for them. ;x

[Xyphere]

Numbers aren't everything (x_x

Just go with which race you think is cooler imo...

[Sepukku]

Im not a big fan of big food (its the small taru belly)...but even more not a fan macroes. I manual edit my spell list to have all the useful spells at the top and bottom of the list so I can use <- and -> keys on the PS2 controller to scroll to them instantly. I keep the useless stuff in the middle (The Spike spells, Enspells, Deodorize, Invis, Sneak, Aspir if were XPing on a non-XPable mob, etc.) It actually works really well and no one ever called me slow cause Im pretty fast with it. Cure's, Regen, Refresh, Haste, Dispel are at the top, Enfeebles, Sleeps, and Escape are at the bottom. Only macros I use are for Dispel and Refresh (one for each party member who uses MP, I use the <p#> commands). Only time I use a real full macro set is Quest/mission fights, Soloing anything higher than EP, and Ballista. Macroes slow me down when it comes to spells -.- Hence why only time I use them is when Im using stuff that requires item useage or equipment switching. (Sorry if that hijacks the thread)

But back to the topic of me and my Taru Belly, I have +15 MND (Debating getting Devotees Mitts and not using AF Gloves during XP), 2 Saintly Rings, Holy Phial, Red Cape, RK Belt+1, AF Legs, Dark/Light Staff. I dont have too much of a problem landing enfeebles, it often depends on mob type and its level compared to mine. Low IT or VT I can land things easily, High IT (Why people XP on these, beats me, usually Low IT XP PTs do better.) I usually have to recast a white magic enfeeble once or twice (Slow/Paralyze). For food, I dont use 3hr food, I use 3min food! /hurray Ginger Cookies. Between these and Dark Staff (plus Taru MP), I can handle emergencys real well due to high INT for sleep, and another 750 MP ready to go if we get into trouble. (750 is a lot for my level, 61.)

Lastly, Taru RDM is the coolest thing out there. Theyre the 2nd rarest RDM race only to Galka. But who loves Galkans? No one, they smell. Therefore Taru RDM rocks. Elvaan RDM is -so- overdone it's lost all its pride and valor looks to me when I see one in Jeuno. From what Ive seen on my 3 servers Ive played on, heres RDM race frequency from commonest to rarest:
1. Elf
2. Mithra (Verrry Hot w/ all AF except using RSE lv33 Body)
Thats probably one of the hottest ways a Mithra can dress.
3. Hume
4. Taru
5. Galka -- To this day, Ive only seen one Galkan RDM in AF, and thats after 16 months in Vanadiel, 220 days playing time, and 3 servers.

[tazirai]

Originally posted by Xyphere
Numbers aren't everything (x_x

Just go with which race you think is cooler imo...

Sadly most cant....