Can you change drop rate for rare/ex items to 100%

[Callisto]

Re: Can you change drop rate for rare/ex items to 100%

It wouldn't kill them to improve drop rates on Relic Armor either. Maybe not 100%, but around 40-50% would be nice, especially since not every piece is even all that useful. I'm sure there are plenty of players out there who want it just for the sake of having another cool looking set of AF.

There is a certain amount of ridiculousness to AF2 drops. My Dynamis linkshell has seen 1 Duelist's Chapeau. Ever. I think they've been running for nearly 2 years now. We routinely do Northlands runs where we nail every time extension, farm as well as we can with minimal wipes/downtimes, and leave with absolutely 0 AF in nearly 3 hours. Our last 3 Xarca runs have yielded a total of 1 AF, our last 5 Glacier have gone 0, 1, 0, 0, 2, 0, we usually have about 25-30 people per run. I understand that the pieces should be challenging to get, but holy crap. I'm currently 4th-5th in line for that hat(despite being pretty much the only RDM main of the top 5 people in line; ; ), and I honestly don't see me ever getting the hat due to it only dropping once a year.

[Mhurron]

Re: Can you change drop rate for rare/ex items to 100%

I wish the game would keep record of how many times you killed X NM and even though you can kill it 1 time and get it first drop, ig you go 0/49 your next kill will be 100%.
Take me on Mysticmaker Profblix for example. 0/113

See like, damn man, you've earned that earring but that's not a good argument for making the drop 100%.

Some serious advice, never play the lottery.

[Neomage]

Re: Can you change drop rate for rare/ex items to 100%

I wish the game would keep record of how many times you killed X NM and even though you can kill it 1 time and get it first drop, ig you go 0/49 your next kill will be 100%.

Take me on Mysticmaker Profblix for example. 0/113

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: Can you change drop rate for rare/ex items to 100%

Why should Vali's be 100%? If it was, the value of Eurytos bow would be utterly destroyed. its the best RNG bow in the game still, SE clearly wanted it to retain its value and by not changing the drop rates, it keeps value.

[Malacite]

Re: Can you change drop rate for rare/ex items to 100%

They shouldn't 100% all drops, certainly not HNMs, but an increased rate on some of them wouldn't hurt either.

Case in point, make Moldavite Earring or Valis' Bow 100% but sure as hell not Ridill.

It wouldn't kill them to improve drop rates on Relic Armor either. Maybe not 100%, but around 40-50% would be nice, especially since not every piece is even all that useful. I'm sure there are plenty of players out there who want it just for the sake of having another cool looking set of AF.


Moldy should be 100% There are still a lot of people camping it and the drop rate is piss poor. Rabbit Charm would be another good candidate too...

[Mhurron]

Re: Can you change drop rate for rare/ex items to 100%

Mysticmaker might not be as difficult as Charybdis, but it's still requires a fairly high level player to pull it off. Moldavite Earring probably should be a 100% drop.

You don't have to be high level to do it. At 67 you stop getting aggro there so a party in the mid 50's could probably handle it fine. Mysticmaker has a pretty much 2h 15min pop timer so camping him is not hard. Compared to Charybdis, even on pop times alone, Mysticmaker is a walk in the park so I don't see why suddenly the Moldavite Earring should be guaranteed.

And in general:

There are some NMs (like Eastern Shadow) that has such a weird spawn rate and with such a poor drop rate for the Vali's Bow, it isn't worth putting the time to camp for an item that might drop.

So don't camp it. If it's not worth the effort to you the item isn't worth your time so don't waste your time on it. Is it really so hard to understand? Sometimes you're just going to have to work at things, put your nose to the grindstone and do what it takes. If you're not willing to do that, you don't deserve the reward.

[LyonheartLakshmi]

Re: Can you change drop rate for rare/ex items to 100%

There are certain R/EX NM drops which should be 100%, but aren't. Take Joyeuse, for example. Is it a problem that it's a 100% drop? Probably not, given Charybdis' relatively low spawn rate (it spawns less often than Leaping Lizzy) and relatively high difficulty (it's much harder to successfully take down Charybdis than it is to take down Leaping Lizzy).

Mysticmaker might not be as difficult as Charybdis, but it's still requires a fairly high level player to pull it off. Moldavite Earring probably should be a 100% drop.

For any R/EX drop that *doesn't* have a AH sellable equivalent, I really don't see a reason why the drop rate shouldn't be 100%, even for some of the low level NMs like Carnero.

[eticket109]

Re: Can you change drop rate for rare/ex items to 100%

Every rare/ex drop? No. I'm sorry but if going 1/9 on Lizzy is breaking your spirit then you may just want to quit when you're ahead.

However, greatly increasing the r/e drop rate on 21+ hour NMs (non-HNMs) would be nice. The two prime examples of this are Noble Mold and Stubborn Dredvodd. Stubby can take over 80 hours to pop and Noble Mold can pop like 3 times every couple of weeks and they aren't even guaranteed to drop anything. Then again, changing it would be a bit of a slap in the face to those of us that camped those NMs for days, weeks or months before we got that drop.

[Sevv]

Re: Can you change drop rate for rare/ex items to 100%

Stop the derail please? >.>

my post wasn't a derail it was serious,


and a boost to the drop rate would be acceptable but 100% would cause issues.

[Aeolus]

Re: Can you change drop rate for rare/ex items to 100%

They boosted the rare/ex drops for subjobs recently, thats enough imo.

[Taskmage]

Re: Can you change drop rate for rare/ex items to 100%

Stop the derail please? >.>

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: Can you change drop rate for rare/ex items to 100%

Oh great another Feba vs Mhurron bitching session.... and i thought the thread was going to be about drop rates... guys bitch somewhere else you keep spoiling thread after thread... it gets triing having to read through your crap to get to the actually content of the thread in question.

You can just blacklist them on you ignore list, the problem is that the forum code doesn't block what people quote in reply to the stupid shit they say, so you'll still see it.

ON TOPIC:

If everything R/E had a 100% drop rate, there would be no point in playing the game and nothing would be rare.

[Callisto]

Re: Can you change drop rate for rare/ex items to 100%

Back on topic: I think moving the R/E drop rates to 100% is way too much, but some boost would be nice. I went 1/8 on Ose, 4 of those times having TH2. Ose has a pretty large window, at times I spent a solid 7 hours camping before he popped, only to get no drop, and it was a bit disheartening. My friend went 1/11 on the R/E O. Kote, not counting the 8-10 claims he missed, it took him nearly a full week to get them, that's kind of extreme.

I guess at the same time it does make finally getting the drop a bit sweeter when it comes, giving your tv scree/pc monitor the bird, and warping out proudly.

[Sevv]

Re: Can you change drop rate for rare/ex items to 100%

Oh great another Feba vs Mhurron bitching session.... and i thought the thread was going to be about drop rates... guys bitch somewhere else you keep spoiling thread after thread... it gets triing having to read through your crap to get to the actually content of the thread in question.

Wait wait wait feba is bitching and not at me, gdi! I have failed ; ;. Actually the thread is about why don't they make drop rates on r/e 100%. The thread has come up a few dozen times already, they lose making these items "rare" if everything was 100% ridills for everyone not too mentions abj as well. Some "luck" is needed to make these items still desired. If you change the r/e drop rate every melee and mage would be forced to camp kings for the standard armor.

[Jarre]

Re: Can you change drop rate for rare/ex items to 100%

Oh great another Feba vs Mhurron bitching session.... and i thought the thread was going to be about drop rates... guys bitch somewhere else you keep spoiling thread after thread... it gets triing having to read through your crap to get to the actually content of the thread in question.