Sobering Article on Account Theft

[fallenintoshadows]

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I've actually heard of people selling thier accounts, claiming they were "hacked" and getting them back. Basically, that would be scamming the buyer and SE at the same time. While I have no respect for the buyer to start with, it doesn't change the fact the seller did something far more seedy.

I knew a guy like that on Sylph server, he was such a jack ass, he played the old sob story about getting hacked and not only did he scam the buyer and SE but he scammed all his friends/LS (luckily not me) into giving him a ton of gil and/or items.

@ Mhurron: bunch of tarus all the same character model****

[Ameroth]

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Hate to say it, but the customer is rarely right.

fixt.

OT:

Lmao at the idea of someone paying $5k for a character in a virtual world that's 7+ years old and not getting any younger.

Ever notice how people really don't give a shit about most bad things in life until something "bad" happens to them? Now they're pissed, want to place blame, and feel it's their obligatory duty to inform the rest of us ignoramuses on how to live life.

Life isn't always fair.

[Kailea]

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Unfortunately, no matter what online game you play, you don't necessarily own anything, due to IP issues (intellectual property for those who don't know) and the very difficult legal task in trying to place a value on "time". Even outside of online gaming, this is a difficult legal question in general business practices.

hell I will tell you the prices of time ;p

$13.00 a month and an extra $1 for each addition character ;p

[Aeni]

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You know, I understand the viewpoint you guys are taking that the policies this journalist is quoting are old and no longer reflect SE's business practices. That said, I hope people read this article. I further hope that it gets passed around, hyperlinked all over the place, and blackens SE's eye. Yes, I hope SE suffers because of something they've fixed. The reason I hope this is because of what they haven't fixed. We still don't really own anything. We rent characters, and that rental agreement frankly sucks.

Unfortunately, no matter what online game you play, you don't necessarily own anything, due to IP issues (intellectual property for those who don't know) and the very difficult legal task in trying to place a value on "time". Even outside of online gaming, this is a difficult legal question in general business practices.

[Ziero]

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RMT buy low and sell high, it's how they make their money. Well, besides outright hacking your account and stripping you down.

[TheGrandMom]

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Even characters with multiple lvl 75 jobs, crafting leveled, and good gear aren't worth much if you go through the rmt's. The guy that was in my old ls that sold his gil was going to sell his account to them too. They offered him $150. He eventually got $600 by selling it via other methods.

[Mog]

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Considering how much IGE sells junk characters for ( no gear, maybe 1 75 job, no merits ), I can see why she thinks her account's worth 5,000 dollars.

And lol at this topic. Whoever wrote that article needs to do a little research before he posts outdated information and makes an ass out of himself.

[TheGrandMom]

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I've actually heard of people selling thier accounts, claiming they were "hacked" and getting them back. Basically, that would be scamming the buyer and SE at the same time. While I have no respect for the buyer to start with, it doesn't change the fact the seller did something far more seedy.

Yep had that happen in an old ls. We just got him an equip that sold for several million gil. He sold the equip for gil, liquidated everything he owned, sold all the gil to rmt, and then sold the account to some clueless soul too. He was very close to the sacs and leader of the shell so he had a lot of good gear. Then about 3 months later, he came back on the same character bragging how he used the registration codes to get his character back. And yes, they let him back into the ls. He even wanted back the equip they had just gotten him that he sold.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Maybe she was going by it's sentimental value because I sure as hell can't see anyone really paying that.. I can't understand people who buy accounts anyway and most likely it wasn't taken to be resold, as far as I know they get hacked and used for RMT purposes, so you'll see them running around on some other server PLing a bunch of tarus that all look the same and what not. Most people that sell accounts are the people who rightfully "own" that character and they get bored of the game and want some cash.

I've actually heard of people selling thier accounts, claiming they were "hacked" and getting them back. Basically, that would be scamming the buyer and SE at the same time. While I have no respect for the buyer to start with, it doesn't change the fact the seller did something far more seedy.

The RDM that was originally supposed to be in my 2nd Sea static actually pulled this little stunt. Those on Odin that wish to know his name I will be happy to share it with them so they can avoid him. Needless to say, I did not get him sea access.

That reminds me, if he shows his face in the LBR LS ever again, I need to break his pearl. Thankfully, he hasn't shown up since resurfacing.

[Mhurron]

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bunch of tarus that all look the same

That's racist.

[Phanex]

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Hate to say it, but the customer is not always right.

If only my Managers at Wal-Mart believed me when i said that back when I worked there.

Or better yet, that lady who burned herself on the McDonald's Coffee way back in the day. Hmm...is this coffee like hot? let's find out....OUCH I'm going to sue you for not telling me it was hot.

But still, it sucks this is happening...I can't read the article provied, i'm at work, i'll have to wait till i get home to read up on it.

[fallenintoshadows]

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Maybe she was going by it's sentimental value because I sure as hell can't see anyone really paying that.. I can't understand people who buy accounts anyway and most likely it wasn't taken to be resold, as far as I know they get hacked and used for RMT purposes, so you'll see them running around on some other server PLing a bunch of tarus that all look the same and what not. Most people that sell accounts are the people who rightfully "own" that character and they get bored of the game and want some cash.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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I rolled my eyes when I got to that part, if there were really people out there dropping five grand on MMO accounts, a lot of people would just quit thier day jobs and grind characters in MMOs instead.

The whole article and its subject reeks of the "Customer is always right" mentality.

Hate to say it, but the customer is not always right.

[Neomage]

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Michelle frantically scanned these unauthorized auction sites daily, looking for a character that matched Mali's description - a high level paladin worth, according to her research, between $1500 and $2000 in these markets. That estimate didn't even including the huge cache of rare armor Michelle had accumulated and stored in Mali's inventory, collectively valued, she estimates, at well over $5000.

That is simply a large overestimate. Some of the most decked out characters in history including relics and homam gear have sold for only $2000, gear included. She claims the levels and tradeskills alone are worth that much? Geez...

[Mhurron]

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Sobering Article on Account Theft

Nope, still drunk.

Um, damn...

At work, ignore that.