Will we see FFXI for Wii?

[Feba]

Re: Will we see FFXI for Wii?

Yes, but 1- can you even hook up accessories to the classic? You'd need a controller. 2- How many people are going to want to get the classic controller for ONE game? Unless you already buy from the virtual store, it's kinda useless.

[Shadowneko]

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I played halfway through beta on a keyboard and hated it. ...I could never get the camera right and moving was about 10 times as difficult as just pushing on an analog stick. A few months ago I got the PC edition again and tried the Kb...then remembered how horrible it was the last time! I ended up going out and buying a PS2-style USB controler and fixing the config so that it worked the exactly the same way as my PS2.


Back on the subject: I think that FFXI's controls would map perfectly onto the Wii Classic Controler....(not eveything needs motion controls)

[BurningPanther]

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I use this: http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-NetPl...099743&sr=8-12

And this: http://www.consolesandgadgets.com/ca...98dabf1bd95080

Both on my PC, and have had nary a problem with either movement or keyboard usage.

[LyonheartLakshmi]

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again though: the gamepad is more intuitive (in the sense that you don't really need to 'get used to' using it to be moderately competent) and some people prefer it over kb only controls.

I would no doubt fall under that category. Even if I bound cursor movement to certain keys, I would still prefer the feel of a controller. I'm so used to dual analog sticks for character movement + camera control.

If my background was a PC-based FPS player, I might feel differently.

[Amele]

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I tried playing with just a keyboard when I first moved from PS2 over to PC. But targetting mobs on a pet swap while soloing as BST was just too difficult. Tab just wasn't cutting it. I suppose I could move my right hand over to the mouse specifically for targetting, but even that becomes difficult when multiple targets are hovering close together.
If I'm going to have to move my hands off the keyboard and onto something else, it might as well be a controller.

that's the point though. every button on the gamepad layout has a command bind available on the keyboard layout (not all of them are bound by default, the default layout more closely mimics a generic pc (mmo)rpg but they're all there). so you don't actually need to move your hands off one peripheral onto another at all with keyboard.

with mouse + kb or gamepad + kb, you will.

again though: the gamepad is more intuitive (in the sense that you don't really need to 'get used to' using it to be moderately competent) and some people prefer it over kb only controls.

[Feba]

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Now imagine trying to be a mage with those controls.



IN DYNAMIS.

[eticket109]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci76V8Jp8CI

For anyone curious about how the Wii controls could be implemented.

[LyonheartLakshmi]

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I tried playing with just a keyboard when I first moved from PS2 over to PC. But targetting mobs on a pet swap while soloing as BST was just too difficult. Tab just wasn't cutting it. I suppose I could move my right hand over to the mouse specifically for targetting, but even that becomes difficult when multiple targets are hovering close together.

If I'm going to have to move my hands off the keyboard and onto something else, it might as well be a controller.

[Amele]

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agreed.

personally, I find full keyboard is much better than compact keyboard for independent movement and camera control (the default layout just maps to hand position better) although compact keyboard has it's advantages as well (denser control layout -> less moving around the keyboard -> less chance to be 'centered' over the wrong keys, depending of course on your typing discipline).

ultimately, it's a matter of preference, one of the players I started with swore by his gamepad for alliance fights because of the ability to scroll up and down the alliance line intuitively (even if you map the control on keyboard, it's hardly intuitive) I've moved beyond that now, typing commands directly into the chat line and taking advantage of the <a#> tags to rapidly target anyone in the alliance.

[Feba]

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the KB controls are great once you get used to them.

[Shadowneko]

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I don't know anyone who uses a mouse with XI. keyboard controls are fine, I'm faster now with a straight keyboard than I could ever be with a gamepad + keyboard. (although typing at 80-100wpm depending on how alert I am has alot to do with that). likewise I would hope that if SE did make a port to the Wii that they didn't implement wii pointing as a mandatory requirement.

The KB controls are horrible....espc. for movement and controling the camera. I've had the PC edition on several occaions and I just could not stand using the kb to walk around, adjust the camera or even to select stuff from menus. Macros might be nice(actaully just using them from the KB works if you know where you put them) but to me FFXI needs a controler(since it was designed with one in mind) and the KB is for chatting.

Anyone who's had a controler in their hands would probably agree with me...it just maps that well onto the PS2 controler ^^

[eticket109]

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I don't know anyone who uses a mouse with XI.

I use the mouse occasionally. I mainly use my controller and only really use the keyboard to chat or build macros.

[Amele]

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Well as someone decided to throw at me before. You can't make comparisons of different technology, something about them is likely different enough that it provides it possibilities that others can not do. Still not convinced that the Wii system could even meet the games minimal requirements, let alone if the system is even along the same programming lines to make the already existing code work with that system.
Besides that from your own admittions, if the Wii is comparable to a PS2 with just a bit more RAM. Then if the PS2 is eventually dropped off as being supported then our new low limit will be the Wii.

the biggest hurdle for a Wii port would have been the processor core: that is, the Wii runs on a modified Power PC core (which isn't going to use x86 architecture like pc's do) but for that matter, neither does the ps2 (which is itself a MIPS based architecture) and, interestingly, the xbox360 also runs on a Power PC derivative core (the Xenon/Waternoose) so that hurdle is largely handled.

Wii processor is a 730MHz PowerPC which is sufficient to meet FFXI's processor specs (although not terribly over the bar, ask anyone with a 4GHz processor if they see a *real* improvement in lag/frame skip. they don't.)

Wii onboard RAM is 88MB (64 of which is available for System memory) this is double the ps2 so no memory issues carry over here for storage space/variety of textures. (Xbox360 of course has significantly more RAM than this, although it is shared between video and system)

Wii video memory is slightly lacking (although again, approximately equivalent to the ps2) this would be the real hurdle for FFXI since it would mean being tied to the same level of graphics they're at right now for the game (not that they've announced any plans to drop the ps2 hardware support so far anyway). It would also not be necessary to update this part of the code for all platforms, although SE has in the past attempted to avoid any forking of the code base and application resources between platforms.

I can't stand the KB and mouse controls on the PC. That's basicly the worst way to control FFXI. Using the GC controlers or the classic controler would be much better...if SE ever makes a Wii edition...

I don't know anyone who uses a mouse with XI. keyboard controls are fine, I'm faster now with a straight keyboard than I could ever be with a gamepad + keyboard. (although typing at 80-100wpm depending on how alert I am has alot to do with that). likewise I would hope that if SE did make a port to the Wii that they didn't implement wii pointing as a mandatory requirement.

[Aksannyi]

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That cosplay video was one of the lamest I've ever seen.

QFT. Holy crap that was lame.

[Shadowneko]

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I'm stuck at work so I can get a pic fo the classic controler...then again:

normal-looking wii controler