Things I've never understood in FFXI

[Ziero]

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About the "my <job>" thing:

To me, it's more the fact that jobs in this game are just another type of 'equipment'. Because everyone can be everything, two people can easily interchange based on the party's needs. Like if one were to do a mission, they may ask 'would you rather have my War or their War' as you could only need one and the other player would be something else. Plus there's the fact that different people use the same jobs differently at times. Even a straight forward job like Mnk, which is a pure DD, could be played differently. Thus one person's Mnk would be different then another's Mnk. As it's not the job that defines them, it's that player defining the job.

I use 'my' when refering to my jobs to put a bit more personal emphasis on the job as so many people can play it, but none of them play it like me.

[eticket109]

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I've always wondered why 'Good Luck!' isn't in there or something like it.

[Eohmer]

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I just realized... Why isn't "Why?" Auto-translated?

Who? What? When? Where? How? << All those are. >.<

[Murphie]

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Good point, Mouser. I suppose I think of it the same way. I'm a RDM, but I do level other jobs from time to time. It's less confusing in games where each character plays as one class, I suppose.

[Mouser]

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In re the "my <JOB>" thing, I do that all the time. In my case, it's a subconscious distinction between what I consider my real job and just one that I happen to be leveling (as a sub or whatever). For example, I'd say "I'm going to go level DRG" as opposed to "I'm going to go level my THF" since I consider DRG my real job and THF is just a sub.

[Murphie]

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In other MMOs my characters all have their own personalities and so I tend to think of them independently (I always play on RP servers). But in FFXI it's all me, so I just think of it all as mine.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Time for more meds, eh?

If only they really helped.

[Murphie]

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Time for more meds, eh?

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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My jobs reveal my disassociative personality disorder. My RNG is a calulating hunter cyborg complete with ice beam and super missles (who has apparently lost her abilty to morph into a ball yet again). My Corsair is a pirate with Setzer-isms.

My Ninja speaks japanese... I don't, but the NIN just does. Can't explain that one.

My Red Mage is a real sleezebag, doesn't pay the elvaan hookers he sees, which gets him in trouble. The BRD is rather quiet, just sings. The BST snarls and and doesn't speak anything intelligable.

Then there's the WHM... he's not here to keep you healthy, just alive. Quit whining about your poison, I'm getting to it. I'm doctor, Jim, not your mother.

These personalities are all MINE, you can't have have them, that is why I say "my <job>."

[eticket109]

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I tend to treat my seperate jobs as seperate characters on some level as well. I think that has a lot to do with where that comes from.

[Murphie]

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It's probably just that we're really attached to our characters. I've used both, to be honest.

[LyonheartLakshmi]

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Something I don't understand...

How people feel the need to say "my <job goes here>". Like, "I'm going to go level my BLU today." Or, "I'm camping VE so I can get a hairpin for my THF." I know there are some common cases where it's actually shorter to type this than the alternative. For instance, saying "What level is your WHM?" is shorter than saying "What level do you have WHM at?"

But with so many cases where "my" is used, simply dropping the "my" would still convey the same exact meaning. "I'm going to go level BLU today." Is there any question whose job you are out leveling? I'm not going to get confused and wonder if you're going to level someone else's character. Why the need to sound all possessive about it?

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Yeah, I've soloed BST and I've had those days where i'm on the last RR earring charge and got smacked while weakened. I've even had to HP before I could use RR items.

Just imagine the BST that dies in the middle of Ifrit's Cauldron. Chances are, no one will be there to raise you and there are spots in there where you might still be forced to HP since you'd just aggro again when you got up.

Any job that solos knows what they're getting into; any job that PTs -especially those with frequent invites - really doesn't have a right to bitch about dying at any level of the game.

[Karinya]

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Don't get me started on raises/reraises, just last night my dynamis shell lost 2 AF2s because a bunch of blms committed suicide just before time ran out and were all waiting for R3 (from about 4 WHMs, mostly already OOM from trying to keep people alive), so they wouldn't pass.

If you're not going to keep up stoneskin and blink, kite when you need to and watch your goddamn hate, you can take whatever raise we have time to give you, thanks. And if you don't think that's fast enough, sub WHM and cast reraise or bring a reraise item. Jobs that can solo VTs don't get to whine about how much exp they lost, and you don't do the LS any good when you're dead (and not much when you're weakened). And that applies just as much to HNM fights as it does to dynamis, IMO (if not more so - anyone who doesn't bring some multi-use RR to Proto-Ultima shouldn't be allowed to take up space in the alliance).

But that's just me - our LS leadership is sadly lax on people carelessly killing themselves and then becoming a drain on the WHMs by not having RR. We've been chronically short of WHMs for months, and as someone often trying to keep them from running out of mp, I can tell you that they are very overworked. Suicide pulls and the occasional tank getting flattened by Hundred Fists/off-tank with 3 mobs on him/etc. are one thing, stupid recklessness is quite another.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Here's another one:

People who make/join a PT when they know they're not going to be able to EXP for more than 30 minutes or so. Had a PT, thing's going pretty well in Mire with high chains and all that. Then out of nowhere our tank has to go... and no tanks seeking so PT is disbanded (MNKs in the burn didn't have /NIN I guess).

Did the tank go due to real life issues? Personal Emergency? Log out even?

No, he had sky. Sky doesn't just happen out of the blue.

... so why even build the PT? That's really just jerking people around. '

Back in October I had this SMN in PT. Suffice to say I've had a history of bad experiences with her, but this is just lame. We were tolerating each other and working very well in PT together. In the back of my head, I knew we were in the timeframe for Cerberus, but my LS had no plans to go and even though I didn't like this person, I wasn't going make this PT suffer for it.

20 minutes into the PT, she disconnects.. 20 mins later she pops back in, does a /cry and I check Mount Z a few minutes later... yup, there she is. Fake DC to get out of the PT completely. Funny thing was her LS got there only to see Cerberus already claimed and nearly beaten.