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  • Yeargdribble
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    I'll only play hero in a very dire situation when there is no sleeper available in my PT. This has happened to me a handful of times. I've ended up Flee kiting a link on my THF a handful of times.

    I've also carby kited links on SMN. However, I take note of the PT setup ahead of time and if there are no sleepers I consider what my job could possibly do if a link were to occur. Generally, I'm smart enough to know that my measely melee self can't do shit so I'm not gonna try. If we get a link I leave it alone. At best I'll voke it while zoning to save someone a death if it gets that bad.

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  • Anaki
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    for melees and link management.

    melees who sub war have voke war/nins have voke and utsuemi. mages have low hp and low defence. if sleep doesn't stick you dont want the melee to sit there and just watch as the mage gets killed since hits interupt spell casting.

    but the whole melee smacking the mob ya thats just stupid. unless the link is a pet mob and weak in which case killing it means xp chain and sometimes 1 ws will kill it

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  • Legal Fish
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    Oh yeah, I didn't answer the thread.

    About everything that the OP ever says in any topic.

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  • Murphie
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    I exp so often that I never care what I get. The difference in EXP isn't great enough for me to care. But I guess if I were close to losing my level, I'd care more.

    That said, I generally end up with an R3.

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  • Raydeus
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    What kind of events are you guys talking about?

    If it's Dynamis a LS then it (or more likely the puller and or the main /assist) must suck if so many people dies that you can't get a RIII, it is true it's expected for LS members to carry Reraise Items with them, specially WHM, RDM and BRDs but they should be your last option, not part of the strategy.

    For Gods its even easier to get a RIII.

    However for CoP and stuff like that if someone is waiting for a RIII when time is so limited (or conserving MP is so important) then they should just kick him/her out of the party/static.

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  • Jei
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    Originally posted by Legal Fish View Post
    Unless your LS sucks, 99% of the time, you will be able get a Raise III. I've been in my current LS for about half a year now, only once out of 3 runs a week for a great of months have I ever needed to take a Raise I and that was because a freak accident of someone calling for help on a Suzaku(god damn, yo). I don't play FFXI a whole lot and my buffer is never above 6k. Giving someone a RI when you could give someone a RIII is a big "fuck you" in my opinion.
    Not true, no.
    A good players will know when Raise 3 can be spared and when they are not.

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  • Yeargdribble
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    Keep in mind the huge difference in MP costs to give someone an R3 in the middle of a big battle. Sky gods are a joke and you can have a ton of outside healers and rasiers. However, some events are limited by time and/or numbers. Proto-Ultima is the type of fight where you wouldn't want to waste XP R3ing someone. In all reality, your LS sucks if everyone doesn't have RR items for a fight like that. In a really good Dynamis shell you probably won't have to face many R1s, but in some of the CoP Dynamis zones, every second can count, so you really just need to eat it sometimes.

    Go get a buffer. Like kitten said, if you have time to join an endgame shell, you have time to get some XP. Otherwise you are just a liability and potentially dead weight to your LS.

    Nothing pisses me off more than people with a paper thin, 47 XP buffer into 75. This is especially true if you are a job that dies a lot. If you know you are going to die, and you know that you'll be half naked and lose your good gear, then SWITCH OFF OF MERITS FOR ONE @#%$ING PT AND GET SOME XP!!!!
    Last edited by Yeargdribble; 01-13-2007, 03:26 PM.

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  • Legal Fish
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    Unless your LS sucks, 99% of the time, you will be able get a Raise III. I've been in my current LS for about half a year now, only once out of 3 runs a week for a great of months have I ever needed to take a Raise I and that was because a freak accident of someone calling for help on a Suzaku(god damn, yo). I don't play FFXI a whole lot and my buffer is never above 6k. Giving someone a RI when you could give someone a RIII is a big "fuck you" in my opinion.

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  • Jei
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    Getting raise 1 is to be expected if you do events and such, the priority is to pass the event, not to safe exp. You don't need to be a part of an end game linkshell to understand that.

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  • Omgwtfbbqkitten
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    Originally posted by Legal Fish View Post
    Not everyone can play a lot. Some are limited to only logging on for LS events. Especially tough for some jobs who don't get invited to either.
    I think that when you join an endgame linkshell of any type, you essentially have said you're willing to do the work and be part of the team. And I don't think people get to 75 without accepting what their job is and how difficult it may be to level and a good player will make the connections to overcome that obstacle.

    I've encountered people who have been in endgame longer than I have that still lack those connections. I recently had a series of tells with one of these players asking how my RNG is always able to get a PT. Well, I merit RNG with my LS, they'll merit with me whether I'm RNG or COR. I consider COR my primary main job and I can merit with anyone on that, but its still appreciated my LS friends what to see my RNG grow strong too. So for me thats not a big concern.

    I have a difficult time beliving that people have made it this far without making some kind of connections. Perhaps its pride that keeps people from asking for help in this department. I've been in some of the easiest and hardest jobs to level, not to mention some of the most expensive as well. My eyes are set on BST and THF next and I know what I'm getting into there.

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  • Caspian
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    Too......much......sarcasm.....head......about to.....explode..........

    Onion: I think I'd heard that before, but didn't know if it was true. I guess that might explain why you can't actually set your HP to be inside your MH. Bugs me that I have to zone to HP, then zone again just to get into MH and check the d. box. Especially in Whitegate where it takes quite a while to dezone.

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  • Drive
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    Thank you for pointing that out. I just corrected it now.

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  • Murphie
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    Originally posted by Drive View Post
    It's the internet. They wouldn't know what tone i'm using in the first place. So I take everything as it offended them. Sarcasm doesn't travel well on the internet, you understand well.
    I have no idea what you're even talking about anymore.

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  • Legal Fish
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    C'mon, at 75 we have TP burn and Manaburn, if getting a measly 1k back is a problem for you, its time to work on your priorities in-game. If Kirin, Bahamut or whatever is killing your alliance, suck it up at take the R1. You should have a reraise item used beforehand anyway, don't be the one who keeps your alliance from winning just because you lost a little EXP.
    Not everyone can play a lot. Some are limited to only logging on for LS events. Especially tough for some jobs who don't get invited to either.

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  • Drive
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    Originally posted by Murphie View Post
    If you think that being offensive is going to help to get the point across you've got a little something to learn about communication.
    It's the internet. They wouldn't know what tone I'm using in the first place. So I take everything I say as if it offended them. Sarcasm doesn't travel well on the internet, you understand well.
    Last edited by Drive; 01-12-2007, 11:11 PM.

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