Hey guys, it's easier to MPK now!

[Amovorite]

Re: Hey guys, it's easier to MPK now!

The US locations more than likely just handle operations and customer service.

Aka, transactions involving gil. What's your point, other than a subtle poke at my post?

[Murphie]

Re: Hey guys, it's easier to MPK now!

It wasn't a subtle poke at anything. No need to be so defensive.

I'm sure they have it structured so that the US locations don't have anything directly to do with the gil transactions. If they did, I'm sure they would have been sued out of the country by now by more than just SE.

[Kazuki]

Re: Hey guys, it's easier to MPK now!

IGE resells gil. Sure you'd be getting rid of a source for the farmers to sell to, but there's plenty more sources out there. Even so, they still get away with it by "selling the time need to acquire the gil," which isn't illegal. It's total BS, I agree, but that's the way it is.

[Moaku Hyena]

Re: Hey guys, it's easier to MPK now!

Oh WOW. I knew this was going to happen. Soon we'll not be able to EXP in Kuftal, Garlaige, or anywhere NEAR a Gilseller camp.

I really hope this was not intentional on SE's part.

Of course, it has happened to me before in Kuftal Tunnel.
The Recipe:
1 Disgruntled Red Mage.
1-55 Pissed off Robber Crab(s).
1-6 Ordinary Clueless Party Members.
1 Sleep Spell of your choosing.

Aggro one Robber Crab and run past a party. Sleep it and zone (or stand by). Come back in and watch the fun! 1-6 Ordinary Clueless Party Members will be mauled and mangled by the Pissed off Robber Crab(s). After the Robber Crabs deal with the Clueless Party Members, sit down and enjoy a tasty summer treat of Mauled MPK'ed Adventurers!!!

Actual results may vary. If you have an allergic reaction to dead adventurers, consult your doctor before trying this meal. Not responsible for any angry /tells, /says, or /shouts. Do not use near an open Black Mage Fire spell. People who have high cholesterol should not eat Mauled MPK'ed Adventurers. Results may vary.

All we have to wait for now is their Christmas Sale...

[Sabaron]

Re: Hey guys, it's easier to MPK now!

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Not only that, but you have a scape goat. "I was trying to help them, so I Dia'ed it, but it started attacking them and killed all of them."
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Now, everyone knows it, but is anyone going to get in trouble for it? Hell no. If somebody actually decides to make it, THEN they'll get in trouble for it.

The "I was only trying to help" excuse will work maybe once. If the player is a suspected gilseller, however, the GM might not buy it and they could get a temp. ban for MPK.

And for the record, you are not allowed in the US to disseminate information that can be used to create bombs/explosives/contraband:

http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cyberc...akinginfo.html

That is why Tyler in the movie used "Orange Juice". I believe adding the OJ will make the substance less flammable as the water will mediate the reaction.

We used to play around with that kind of stuff when we were kids... That was before it was illegal to disseminate explosives production info. There was a rinky-dink publishing company that was found (monetarily) liable for a murder a while back because the killer used their book to make a silenced weapon and perform a hit. I would recommend editing your post as a prudent measure. And if you're referring to the LSD recipe that involes a pan and your closet, you'd be one very, very ill person if you actually attempted it--the substance is formed through a very complicated chemical reaction similar to reactions used to produce other pharmaceuticals. You'd actually have to have a pharmaceutical grade laboratory to produce it (it was originally a pharmaceutical variant that was intended to reduce bleeding during menstruation, if I remember correctly).

[Rodin]

Re: Hey guys, it's easier to MPK now!

The "I was only trying to help" excuse will work maybe once. If the player is a suspected gilseller, however, the GM might not buy it and they could get a temp. ban for MPK.

And for the record, you are not allowed in the US to disseminate information that can be used to create bombs/explosives/contraband:

http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cyberc...akinginfo.html

That is why Tyler in the movie used "Orange Juice". I believe adding the OJ will make the substance less flammable as the water will mediate the reaction.

We used to play around with that kind of stuff when we were kids... That was before it was illegal to disseminate explosives production info. There was a rinky-dink publishing company that was found (monetarily) liable for a murder a while back because the killer used their book to make a silenced weapon and perform a hit. I would recommend editing your post as a prudent measure. And if you're referring to the LSD recipe that involes a pan and your closet, you'd be one very, very ill person if you actually attempted it--the substance is formed through a very complicated chemical reaction similar to reactions used to produce other pharmaceuticals. You'd actually have to have a pharmaceutical grade laboratory to produce it (it was originally a pharmaceutical variant that was intended to reduce bleeding during menstruation, if I remember correctly).

I just read that website, let me reterm my information into a legal sentence.

If you do not want to create a Napalm like substance, then you should not EVER dissolve styrofoam cups in gasoline until they don't dissolve anymore.

Isn't finding loopholes fun.

Also, with many of the simple elements you can find in nature, you're bound to know how to make something go boom. Even the stupidest of us can build a bomb by taking shotgun shells and pouring out the gunpowder and sticking a fuse in. Really, the government is trying to keep something under wraps that even a dumb redneck can do. I don't care if they try to bring me under charges, they won't take my right to free speech.

Also, there's intent. Which can be determined. All I said was I was gonna buy some Gasoline, Orange Juice concentrate, and a plane ticket to Hong Kong. As far as they know, I was gonna fill up a car while drinking OJ in Hong Kong. It's all how you word things, remember.

And It's not orange Juice, but the concentrate. which, mixed in certain parts with gasoline CAN be used to make napalm. I've done that one before actually. :3

[Kailea]

Re: Hey guys, it's easier to MPK now!

I'm not whining because they didn't fix it. Oh, no, MPKs are much harder to do the old way, BUT, now there's another glitch that leaves another form of MPK open. And it's MUCH easier to do than the old form of MPK.

Not only that, but you have a scape goat. "I was trying to help them, so I Dia'ed it, but it started attacking them and killed all of them."

Also, no, you can't get in trouble just for KNOWING about something like that. I know how to make Thermite, smoke bombs, I know how to tap phone lines, get free cable, a ton of that shit. I used to read the Anarchist's Cookbook. I know how to make LSD. The thing that would get me in trouble is if I were to actually DO IT. That's how you break the law. That's like saying, you can get a ticket just for KNOWING how to speed. It would be redundant because everyone knows how to speed. Also, I could say this:

Edited because it's apparently illegal.

Now, everyone knows it, but is anyone going to get in trouble for it? Hell no. If somebody actually decides to make it, THEN they'll get in trouble for it.

was talking about this comment genus.....

Think I need to go buy some gas, orange juice concentrate, and a ticket to Hong Kong and Google IGE's coorporate HQ.

saying this in a public place can, get you in trouble, it would be like saying that you are going to go kill someone and give out your plan........

andway yeah it was easier to MPK with the old system, atleast with the new one, if they finish the main mob they can atleast try and kill the link.

EDIT: fixed my mispell.. GOD

[Sabaron]

Re: Hey guys, it's easier to MPK now!

Interesting. We made lots of stuff, and being from Illinois (not Chicago) that would make me and my associated "Rednecks". There are cheaper and easier-to-obtain reagents than shotgun shells, too. Ever ground sparklers into a powder (WARNING: Serious Injury or death can result from the use of any incendiary or flammable item...DO NOT ATTEMPT)?

I always liked the World's Largest Snake Firecracker from South Park.

[Rodin]

Re: Hey guys, it's easier to MPK now!

was talking about this comment genis.....



saying this in a public place can, get you in trouble, it would be like saying that you are going to go kill someone and give out your plan........

andway yeah it was easier to MPK with the old system, atleast with the new one, if they finish the main mob they can atleast try and kill the link.

There's no hardcore proof though, all that would happen was I would be brought under charge for Conspiracy to commit a crime. And from what I'm told from a friend of mine in Law School, unless it's considered a mass act of terrorism, or they find hardcore proof, never really sticks and is dismissed.

[Kailea]

Re: Hey guys, it's easier to MPK now!

There's no hardcore proof though, all that would happen was I would be brought under charge for Conspiracy to commit a crime. And from what I'm told from a friend of mine in Law School, unless it's considered a mass act of terrorism, or they find hardcore proof, never really sticks and is dismissed.

yeah.... have fun.....

[Rodin]

Re: Hey guys, it's easier to MPK now!

yeah.... have fun.....

Always do!

[Sabaron]

Re: Hey guys, it's easier to MPK now!

was talking about this comment genis.....



saying this in a public place can, get you in trouble, it would be like saying that you are going to go kill someone and give out your plan........

I have a serious problem with Thought Crime as such. This whole terrorism thing in the US has gotten way out of control. Just because someone says something (whether in print or aloud) doesn't mean they ever intend to actually do it, and it is impossible to determine intent from simple speech and especially in print. The plan is so simple and only requires 2 reagents... I wonder what percentage of people could be labelled as terrorists because they like to drink orange juice (from concentrate) and occasionally keep gasoline around their house with the intent to "mow the lawn" or "drive somewhere". The idea that such a statement could get someone in trouble is laughable, and if one could, then it's probably time for me to pack up and go to Canada. Y'all need to relax.

Genius is spelled with a "U".

[Taskmage]

Re: Hey guys, it's easier to MPK now!

Could we drag this thread back on its rails please? If you want to keep talking on the explosives/thought crime line you could make a new thread, or if you want I'll figure out how to split it off.

[Sabaron]

Re: Hey guys, it's easier to MPK now!

Could we drag this thread back on its rails please? If you want to keep talking on the explosives/thought crime line you could make a new thread, or if you want I'll figure out how to split it off.

Well, as far as Dia-MPK goes you have one of two avenues of contention.

I would recommend that you first report the incident to a GM, quietly, so that someone can watch for this behavior. If someone did it to you, just pick up and continue your business as usual after reporting to GM. The GM will probably monitor the area to see if it happens again, and if it does, it's Jormy for the Gilsellers.

The second option is, if you cannot achieve a response from the GM based on sufficient proof (e.g. GM saw them do it a second time), then you have to find another way to get them. What activity were the Gilsellers engaged in when they did this?

[Rodin]

Re: Hey guys, it's easier to MPK now!

They were farming waters as well (like they do 24/7)