The Origin of Vrtra?

[Blood Red Poet]

You won't find this interesting unless you give a damn about how detailed Vana'Diel is .

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/location/03/06.html
^ This info was released LONG before Vrtra... I think even before RoZ. Something to think about ^^. I am very attracted to the idea of SE giving the HNMs SOME backgroud(I really want to know the meaning behind the Tu'Lia gods).

Anyway, kinda pointless thread, just wanted to tell some people of my finding.

[Jabeo]

I woudn't call it pointless. I think the more background info like this that you know, the more you can enjoy the game and see ,like you said, how detailed it is. Thanks for the reference!

[gix]

tulia gods are based off of chinese/jp mythology, the "shijin" (4 gods)http://4gods.tripod.com/main.htm and kirin is supposedly a unicorn god http://www.angelfire.com/realm/shade...icornkirin.htm

[Xyphere]

Good find, not a miniscule thread at all....

Kinda cool tho

[CRtwenty]

Yea, I'd been wondering for awhile what the dragon sealed in the tomb was... though it makes one wonder, can you actually enter the real tomb of King Ranperre now?

[Xyphere]

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After you get the lightbringer back from the orcs whom stole it, you go into a room where there is a tombstone (supposedly Rannperre's tomb) and then Rannperre pops up saying "yes the Lightbringer is too strong for this world blah blalblah."

San d'Oria Mission 20 btw

[Blood Red Poet]

Gix, of course I know that... but... what are they?

Gods? With what purpose? What in ranks compared to a goddess like Altana?

Guardians? For the Zilart? Why is Kirin sealed in that room?

Invades? Friends of the Kuluu?

I mean... they are gods for... god sake. I think we should know just a tad bit more why they there.

[gix]

They're there because they're Gods... and Tulia is land of the gods, pretty simple. Kirin is in that room for a reason too, do kirin and read the text.

[Blood Red Poet]

Tulia is a man-made gate to the gods. The Gods live in Paradise. :O

[Kaishi1]

u set them free and then without warning they attack u. kirin sure has a way to welcome visitors.

[vudoodoodoo]

Originally posted by gix
tulia gods are based off of chinese/jp mythology, the "shijin" (4 gods)http://4gods.tripod.com/main.htm and kirin is supposedly a unicorn god http://www.angelfire.com/realm/shade...icornkirin.htm

http://4gods.tripod.com/images/main/starmap_b.gif
Hmm Ru'An Garden is a circle.

[ZQM]

Anybody here seen the episode of Pet Shop of Horrors based on Kirin (last episode I think)? If I remember correctly (it's been awhile), Kirin gave you a wish, and would grant it no matter what. And that's how John F. Kennedy (I think, like I said, it's been awhile) became president.

[Playtime]

Vrtra = Hindu god of chaos

In Hinduism, Vritra ("the enveloper") was a serpent or dragon, the personification of drought and enemy of Indra

In a later version of the myth, Vritra was created by Tvashtri to get revenge for Indra's murder of his son, Trisiras. Vritra won the battle and swallowed Indra, but the other gods forced him to vomit Indra out. The battle continued and Indra fled. Vishnu and the rishis brokered a truce, and Indra swore he would not attack Vritra with anything made of metal, wood or stone, nor anything that was dry or wet, or during the day or the night. Indra used the foam from the waves of the ocean to kill him at twilight.

In other versions, Vritra was killed by Sarasvati.

Alternative: Vrtra
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Jormungand

In Norse mythology, Jormungand is one of the three children of the god Loki and his wife, the giantess Angrboda. The gods were well aware that this monster was growing fast and that it would one day bring much evil upon gods and men. So Odin deemed it advisable to render it harmless. He threw the serpent in the ocean that surrounds the earth, but the monster had grown to such an enormous size that it easily spans the entire world, hence the name Midgard Serpent. It lies deep in the ocean where it bites itself in its tail, and all mankind is caught within his coils.

At the destruction of the universe, Jormungand and Thor will kill each other.
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Tiamat

In Babylonian myths, Tiamat is a huge, bloated female dragon that personifies the saltwater ocean, the water of Chaos. She is also the primordial mother of all that exists, including the gods themselves. Her consort is Apsu, the personification of the freshwater abyss that lies beneath the Earth. From their union, saltwater with freshwater, the first pair of gods were born. They are Lachmu and Lachamu, parents of Ansar and Kisar, grandparents of Anu and Ea.

In the creation epic Enuma elish, written around 2000 BCE, their descendants started to irritate Tiamat and Apsu so they decided to kill their offspring. Ea discovered their plans and he managed to kill Apsu while the latter was asleep. Tiamat flew into a rage when she learned about Apsu's death and wanted to avenge her husband. She created an army of monstrous creatures, which was to be led by her new consort Kingu, who is also her son. Eventually, Tiamat was defeated by the young god Marduk, who was born in the deep freshwater sea.

Marduk cleaved her body in half, and from the upper half he created the sky and from the lower half he made the earth. From her water came forth the clouds and her tears became the source of the Tigris and the Euphratus. Kingu also perished, and from his blood Marduk created the first humans.

"The Deep" (Hebrew tehom) at the beginning of Genesis derives from Tiamat.

[tomacco]

wow that was awesome, a nice read indeed.

[Fenlain]

I really like how there is a backstory to areas, makes them more interesting to go to, they don't leave you wondering "Now why would this be here.