FFXI and Lineage 2

[LeFaye]

Originally posted by Carbon


The cousin of a former co-worker of mine owns a PC Bang (LAN gaming cafe) in Korea. He apparently paid the equivalent of around $30,000 (in Korean Won of course) for a castle in Lineage 1. Within 3 months, he made up the cost by charging rents (in real money) to his "vassals" - mostly the people who came to his PC Bang to play Lineage.

According to him, this is actually a fairly common practice in Korea. People pay rent (in real $) to castle owners so that they can avoid being PKed over and over by griefer ganksquads that roam the countryside.

Because his castle actually generates real-life revenue for him, he's always on constant alert, and gets called from his bed during the middle of the night when someone attacks - he has to run over to his computer and help with the defense and all o_O;

That's the kind of player mentality Lineage (and probably Lineage2) is designed for.

Hey if I can get paid to play, all good !!

[gasan]

<<Are you sure? does any one have any standings in which mmorpg is above which in the terms of subscribers (other than eq being #1)>>>

EQ is not number 1....in fact its around number 4 or 5. Lineage supposedly has the highest subscription base. Don't believe me? Do some research.

[SilverMatrix]

You know Lineage 2 may have more subscribers but do you really think they have looked into the game? Graphical I would look at it and say Holy shit this game is teh r0x0rz. If the storyline isn't good and people start playing it, the game will just die off. Like most people say here the game gets boring and the equipment is way to expensive. Besides the fact that the game has good graphics, is it worth it? with all these postits and from my opinion I would say No. Is the Storyline good? From what I read there really isn't one besideds Seiging and Pk'ing, Is that worth your time? Up to you to decide, depending on what type of games you like that is. From what the guy under my last post said (put it into some real words and not have everyother word a swear word,) Over the years Square soft created a virtual world where people take a roll in depending on what character they create. Every game had a differnet storyline and thats what made it so interesting now from my experience I can't really say every one had different one I only played FF6+. But from my view it seems like every one before it kicked ass also. Im sure if u ask any gamer that likes morpg's they have played Final fantasy and liked it. so far the first thing I ever heard about Lineage was that it sucked.

[chorozon]

check this:

Ragnarok Online Breaks Record In Taiwan
10.02.03 - 10:55 AM

The Korean-developed online RPG Ragnarok Online is making more aficionados around the globe, as shows this story: the number of users connected simultaneously has broken the 200,000 mark in Taiwan, where 205,000 users were connected on September 26th.
Ever since the beta testing opened on August 6th in Taiwan, there have been peaks where a new user was registered every 0.4 seconds, breaking a new record for the industry, and much to the surprise of the staff themselves. Currently there are 2,380,000 registered users in Taiwan, out of which 1,600,000 are paying the subscription fee. The free service will end on October 22nd. The company responsible for distributing Ragnarok Online in Taiwan, SoftWorld, has held an event to celebrate the 200,000 record.

http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2003/2009.html

[SilverMatrix]

I had read your postit before you had edit'd it Chroz and you know who owns Ragnarok now? SquareEnix

[snake868]

Ragnarok Online Breaks Record In Taiwan
10.02.03 - 10:55 AM

The Korean-developed online RPG Ragnarok Online is making more aficionados around the globe, as shows this story: the number of users connected simultaneously has broken the 200,000 mark in Taiwan, where 205,000 users were connected on September 26th.
Ever since the beta testing opened on August 6th in Taiwan, there have been peaks where a new user was registered every 0.4 seconds, breaking a new record for the industry, and much to the surprise of the staff themselves. Currently there are 2,380,000 registered users in Taiwan, out of which 1,600,000 are paying the subscription fee. The free service will end on October 22nd. The company responsible for distributing Ragnarok Online in Taiwan, SoftWorld, has held an event to celebrate the 200,000 record.

YOU GOT TO BE F**KING KIDDING ME ? THE ENTIRE POPULATION IN TAIWAN IS ABOUT 23 MILLION AND THERE ARE OVER 2 MILLION USERS FOR THIS GAME ?

[NSix]

afdokn

WOw Thats expletive deleted INCREDIBLE considering that the total pop. is 23 Mil. and also that the game is a worthless piece of expletive deleted.

pai pai wuz here

[BALD TARU TARU]

btw you can tell the game is going to suck when you log in and you are forced to start in the city based on your race, me and my friend played it and he wanted to be night elf and il wanted to be orc, but cant start in the same city....

BTW i doubt their is 2million users in taiwan due to the fact that when i was playing Ro beta i had bots and i was botting up to 9 char at once......

[Serenityxx]

I play RO... And I hate how people who played the Alpha or the Beta tell me how crap the game is, go login into kRO now, bots are dead thanks to how they check clientside now, no cheating the protection on it

Also, they ban for ill-mannered of allsorts, the community is great, I can see exactly why this game is popular.. It was also voted the best MMORPG for couples

RO doesn't need fancy graphics, it looks sweet, whether the characters are sprites or not...

Also, Gravity (the creators) are making several new games which are fully 3D

Don't get me wrong, I'm playing FFXI in addition to iRO, and the only reason I am is because I'm getting bored after 2 years playing RO as my sole MMORPG, when I get FFXI I'll post a comparison, but tbh I don't believe you can compare FFXI and RO, they're too diverse

[fuoco]

i was digging up an old thread on lineage2 vs. ffxi and i'd like to add that taiwan that was reported to have an amazing subscriber base for RO and lineage2 does not have their own version of ffxi ^^

perhaps things would be very different if SE decided to tap into taiwanese, hong kong and chinese markets. i also suspect there aren't localized versions for the korean market as well.

for those who are fortunate to be in the beta or for those who play the retail korean or taiwanese version of lineage 2, i'd like to know how the group battle system works in lineage2.

are there comparable features like skillchains and magic bursts, that would alleviate the pain of level grinding?

[Zaptruder]

Oh god... I don't mean to be racist or anything (I'm chinese myself... tho live in australia) but it would be complete grief if we let Koreans, taiwanese and Hongkies around. Those that do import find themselves immersed into the existing culture and aclimatise easiliy... but if they come in large numbers, their culture (largely rude and powergaming) may overwhelm what already exists within FFXI... which although not ideal, is far better than the horror stories from other asian MMORPGS... If S-E ever do tap into that market... I hope that either I'll have stopped playing the game by then or that those countries get their own servers...

That said, it is a huge market to exploit... and for a market that tolerates so much crap and evil game design a game of FFXI's quality, maybe a godsend for that region. But somehow I think WOW may fill in that gap.

[Injection]

I think WoW will fill that gap as well.

WoW will not only be a great game, but will also strengthen the mmo player base.

There are many many people that never played mmos before, but have played Blizzard games.

Blizzard games although known for cheating are also known for quality.

You have these idiots that think cheating will be a notorious as it was in periods of d2.

I ask them one question, How much did they pay per month to play D2? How long have they played it?

Alot of people played D2 for a year or so. Do you really expect any pay once game (online) to be cheat free? Do you know how much money it takes to keep something cheat free?

Was Age of Empires Cheat free? No

Was C -n- C Cheat free? No

Was Counterstrike or any HL mod Cheat free? No

Was Quake3 Cheat free? No


ANY --->famous<--- ONLINE game that doesnt req PAY PER MONTH will have cheating/exploiting somewhere or another.


Some people complain about the graphics of WoW being to cartoony. Lol... Have you played warcraft? Have you played any Blizzard game? Because thats thier style.

People loved Starcraft, D1, and D2 and none of them had great graphics. Blizzard is about Gameplay and Funfactor.

[Zaptruder]

Originally posted by Injection
I think WoW will fill that gap as well.

WoW will not only be a great game, but will also strengthen the mmo player base.

There are many many people that never played mmos before, but have played Blizzard games.

Blizzard games although known for cheating are also known for quality.

You have these idiots that think cheating will be a notorious as it was in periods of d2.

I ask them one question, How much did they pay per month to play D2? How long have they played it?

Alot of people played D2 for a year or so. Do you really expect any pay once game (online) to be cheat free? Do you know how much money it takes to keep something cheat free?

Was Age of Empires Cheat free? No

Was C -n- C Cheat free? No

Was Counterstrike or any HL mod Cheat free? No

Was Quake3 Cheat free? No


ANY --->famous<--- ONLINE game that doesnt req PAY PER MONTH will have cheating/exploiting somewhere or another.


Some people complain about the graphics of WoW being to cartoony. Lol... Have you played warcraft? Have you played any Blizzard game? Because thats thier style.

People loved Starcraft, D1, and D2 and none of them had great graphics. Blizzard is about Gameplay and Funfactor.

Whoa... calm down there... yes people play their games for gameplay... but that doesn't mean that they didn't enjoy their grittier art direction... like SC, Diablo1 and 2 and even WC3 cinematics are all pretty excellent.... shame then that they haven't kept the feeling of their more visually successful works in WoW.

[Zygorn]

lineage 2 i just ruled out from playing cause of these posts...i can imagine myself getting pk'd, going back out to gain back my exp and getting pk'd again. it happened alot in Ultima Online.

injection i give you props for that post on WoW, i love blizzard. my sister whose not a gamer, only plays civilization games, and blizzard games. my only regret about ffxi so far is the lack of pvp, not pk , but pvp arenas or other conquest forms that they said they would put in.

the only reason i can think of WoW's lower graphics means that there will be much less lag in very populated areas (i.e. towns)

[Jroggy]

Originally posted by Zygorn
my only regret about ffxi so far is the lack of pvp, not pk , but pvp arenas or other conquest forms that they said they would put in.

yea me too, but eventually it'll be there