4/5/03 - 40BCNM Fight

[Nadyxes]

BLM is better than smn
The reason is that because of the lvl 15 ability. Use that to increase the power of silence. SMN gives more mnd and more mp but gives lower HP and cant really take advantage of smn in these type of timed events. I suggest Lvl BLM.

[Deli]

Can those mando be charmed -> BST? Anyone tried this b4? If so, how long the charm last. And the fight ends when the black mando is killed?

[[3viL]3D]

the white ones can be charmed, tho I havent tried that myself.
You will still have to kill the white ones after the blacky died. I bet you have to kill the tamed one also or the chest won't pop.

The only thing that worries me is that what if the BST sub lvl is too low, and dun have release ability. Then you have to wait there until it is release automatically (which may take a while depends on the lvl)... And then 30mins run out... -_- Wouldnt that suck?!~ :angel:

[Jonnyram]

Hmm hmm, the posts here seem to be implying that the last attempt we made was a total mismatch of members... it wasn't - we just got screwed by our lack of experience. If we did the same thing again, made sure the black was silenced repeatedly, avoided paralysis, then we would be ok.

Don't try to change the party configuration too much - it was pretty much spot on, and if you're thinking about doing it with red mage, you're just mean

[darick]

Those whities can be charmed but i'm not too sure on the sucess rate after that patch ><; (our galka mnk/bst charmed them before the patch) u dont have to worry about the the charming last too long it doesnt even before the patch...
last time was mnk/bst that does the charming...but i'm sure a main bst/whm?? will do the job since he/she might able to charm and use familar in battle ^^

[Elite]

Get the pld to lure as usual, use 2hr after coming back so the mages could heal and get all the little ones together close, put them to sleep right away or we'll be dead like last time. We then have a little over 30 seconds to kill the blm, it would be nice to have a monnku to 2hr and beat it to death while the drk uses all his STR|+||+| while we form a small combo(Think of WS's on level 40 and under since were capped).

Also the BLM does everything it can to offense the blm mand to death, dont worry about hate since 2hr+Sentinel+Taunt+Cure if necessary will be definitely attract more hate.

Before the others wake up, hopefully the blm's hp will be down to 90% or so(Last time it was 75% but we didnt have enough power classes). It would be great if it dies before that as well but it doesent matter if it's HP is at 90%, then we'll leave the DRK+Monnku to the half-dead blm and 2 pld's take on the small ones to keep it off the whm first.

So, this all depends on putting them to sleep, because last time....they werent.

[Jonnyram]

Elite, if we do as you say, I can use my 2H and blast the black with continuous magic and it will be dead way quicker than a dark knight could do it with a blm helping out too, we would be fine, I think. We just weren't offensive enough last time.

I was thinking last night about including a beast tamer somehow... unfortunately they don't have plant killer (they have vermin, amorph, aquan and everything else under the sun) so no extra stats against mandragoras. They could, however, bring a familiar with them - a nice bird would work great against those pesky turnips - and they could try charming them when they get chance too. As Farplaner said on the LS, this is a mage's fight really, so I think there's a lot of flexibility for the melee roles. Paladin is handy for the 2H though.

We should plan a revenge fight for when Quinn is available. Or any other bards want to help out?

[Deli]

After the patch, charm rate is based on the BST lvl, not the main job lvl. Sub BST wont be useful. Main BST can function as a warrior. Not forgetting its 2hr skill. The mando BCNM drops the important magics, erase, palanax and refresh. I think winning the battle, u will probably get either of these.

[Yuna]

perhaps we should set a new date for revenge...

how about in two weeks from now on a saturday? 24th of May, 2003

let's make the lineup...

[Awntawn]

May 24th I'm available XD

[DJplaeskool]

nothin' going on for me then...
I'm down...
May 24th

[darick]

I think elite sold ur armor and stuff to buy some prepy clothes
j/k

[CARNage]

do you guys have a whm? if not can i join? ecko=lvl 48whm/16smn

[Jonnyram]

Count me in too... I've even got enough conquest points for a reraise scroll this time ;P

[Awntawn]

apparently last resort doesn't stack with darkness for increasing damage (darkness overrides it), but it does increase hate by buttloads. Drk could use it to get the blm on him like glue, and mage can pelt like mad without having to even worry about hate, but whm and pld will have to mass heal the drk.

This isn't necessary if the pld has... "confidence" in his skill though