Relic WS's: Whos got em.

[Izual]

Everyone's saying 'someone told me' and 'I heard that' and 'word flying around is' etc. etc., come on someone's gotta have a pic or something:sweat: I've never seen fully upgraded relic weapon on bismarck, nor have I seen a picture of any in-game from any other server. Not saying I don't believe you, but solid proof would be a lot more convincing

[Aldo]

The site I have used as far as now is saying you can't get past lv3. For example knuckles ingredients is カエストス：�撓�屈�証 + ???
スファライ：é_”拳ã?®æ¬_片 + ??? for 4th and 5th, notice an item is missing from each.

[Xuande]

I'm pretty sure whats missing from your site is not an item but the fee for the upgrade. Just about everything is known except what the goblin charges for the 3rd and 4th levels (with a relic weapon being level 0)

[replica]

Originally posted by Sheila
not quite on topic, but funny anyway
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/bestiary.html?fmob=544

pffft, if you found that funny.. check his userinfo, then character profiles D; sigh


isn't elysha supposed to be a sam? not a 75 pld/war with adaman hauberk, peacock charm, and uh, well... I'm not even gonna get in to it. Check the profiles for his characters lol

[l)@RK-l)EVIL]

Originally posted by Sheila
not quite on topic, but funny anyway
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/bestiary.html?fmob=544

XD
His profile sux

[ZODIAC]

Originally posted by Sheila
not quite on topic, but funny anyway
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/bestiary.html?fmob=544

ROFLMAO

im sure its arvy.......XO

[davidmmmm9]

I like how his blackmage has sniper rings+1, byakko's haidate, and ninja relic boots.

[TheMidg]

Arvy just sometimes forgets what level he is, so he must forget what gear he has too!

[Xiphoid]

Originally posted by Sheila
not quite on topic, but funny anyway
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/bestiary.html?fmob=544

ROFL D;
arvy is so stupid...
did you guys knew that arvy got a venomous claw from scorpions in east altepa?orz

[Smasholays]

How does someone so stupid not fall out of a window or something?

for 1 that is very off topic for 2 I coulndt afford it for 3. i would never ever ever buy anything.

[TheMidg]

Originally posted by Smasholays
How does someone so stupid not fall out of a window or something?

Who's to say he hasn't?

[Smasholays]

Good point.

[Roaddog]

Arvy can never die, only the actors who play him.

[Lynsy]

...Why does every single thread end up about Arvy? I read Rag and Midgard forums for interesting drama...But damn...I can't understand that whole mentality.
I mean seriously, you guys like to trash Arvy...But what has Arvy ever done to >you<? Not what things did he say that were stupid...not how many times did he CFH on Fafnir...But what has Arvy, as a person, done to hurt you? My guess is for most of you the answer is "not a damned thing, it's just funny." I seriously doubt, however, that it is funny to him--he's young and trying to fit in, its failing and that makes his attempts worse. Everyone at some time as been in that position to some degree. Arvy is not a point or counterpoint in every conversation--though I can virtually guarantee you if he tried hard enough, he could find quite a few mistakes any and every one of you have made that would serve as a decent reminder that you are being extremely hypocritical and "novice in your approach" (gee, where have I heard that before) to call him out as some sort of demonic creature.

IIRC, in a certain thread about a Rag player who was roughly the same age as Arvy passing away, someone mentioned that bullies at school had tasered him and teased him. Several people mentioned that was appaulling and alluded to the fact that they wanted to kick said bullies' asses over that--yet those same people, and others, do the psychologicl equivalent here everyday. Simply because you did not directly, physically harm him does not mean the emotional impact and the fundamental motivation and poor ethics are any different--I am unsure that many of you would not do similar things if this was a "real life" community where it was possible.

I am quite aware this will likely get me flamed, but I largely do not care. I am also quite aware that it will come in a few forms, most of which Ill go ahead and adress.
1) Who are you?
>>I am a player on Hades, shifted from Midgardsormr to play with a few friends. This means nothing to you, but in the end, who I am matters little beyond the fact that I am disgusted by the continued and open hazing of Arvy by the Ragnarok community.
2) You're not on our server, you dont know, STFU.
>>No, I'm not on your server, but I'm sorry, just as I would not watch someone helplessly have their ass kicked IRL without saying or doing something, I can no longer stomach watching equivicable behavior online.
3) We're just messing around, leave us alone--you have no right to tell us what to do.
>>You are correct, I can not tell you what to do--but no, I will not leave it alone. I have my thoughts and my opinions, and no, I do not believe Arvy is an infallable saint in all this, but I do believe what you are doing is tantamount to abuse. I am even further appaulled that certain mods, at times, have joined in on this. That is roughly like having a cop walk up while people are bullying you and being hit in the back of the head with a night stick--not cool at all. Aside from that, harassment, bullying and abuse, all of which this is the online equivalent to, are wrong--hurting someone for your entertainment is the most barbaric and repugnant form of entertainment societies have ever formed.
4) You're spelling/grammar/syntax/etc was imperfect!!!!!oneoneone111!!111
>> Go die, seriously, if you want me to right a technically perfect document, Ill be more than happy to oblige--but I doubt you seriously want that, you're just being an ass.
5) Arvy's methods are novice, his JP sucks and he's a pathological liar.
>> So? You have no methods as far as I can tell beyond mockery, manipulation and a mob mentality--the most novice and disgustingly flawed of all methods. His JP may or may not suck, but who really cares--if he can get the point across, how that happened is of little significance. Noone is fluent in every language. He may or may not be a pathological liar, I would lean towards he may be somewhat--likely arising, in no small part, from his current in game social situation. Don't keep him so constantly on the defensive and I can almost guarantee that will slow down drastically.
6) Arvy killed my grandmother.
>> Now, if this, or other legitimately horrible things Arvy may have done to you are true, then I am truely sorry for it--Arvy should not have done such things and ought rectify the situation to the best of his ability. However, I would venture to say in the majority of cases it is not true. In which case, are you any different than what you are accusing him of? Exagerating situations to make yourself seem in the right is exactly what I see a lot of people's issue with Arvy as.

No, I am not so stupid as to think this will stop it, but as I said before, I could no more keep watching this happen and say nothing than I could watch someone being bullied IRL and say or do nothing. It is wrong. Period. I would tell you to grow up, but sadly, I am afraid that this type of thing does not stop even in supposedly "mature" groups of peers.

[Roaddog]

Arvy kicked my dog.