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  • A Final End to all the HNM Drama

    This post has nothing to do with the flame war or anything about anyone being right or wrong. This is a continuation post of my last one about who gets what for items being sold. This post is for Orts, Stryder, Awntawn, Arvy, Drizzt, Ecko, Alldo, Oscar, Hamasaki, Kirashi, Syara, Fantom, Shigeru, Kurochan, Icemaple, Elite, Buttermilk, Atrox, Roaddog, Shinjii, Skute, Elijah, Farplaner, Qoomage.

    This is nothing but strait up facts, not opinion based. You will not be receiving any money or items for your HNM hunting. All the money was invested in these locations:

    1. Xuande is worldshifting with 900k
    2. Miyamotomusashi is refusing to sell Behemoth Mant.
    3. Lemia is refusing to sell Behemoth Mant.
    4. Herodrink is refusing to sell Behemoth Mant.
    5. Blizzy still has money for staff
    6. Gatts has 1.4 million into guilding

    I’m sorry that you all tried to hard and devoted so much time but you won’t be getting anything. I hope just the strait up fact that you got the opportunities to hunt HNMs was worth it. I wish I was able to hunt them myself.

    If people deserve these items or not is not my responsibility. I tried really hard to make thing fair in the end but I guess not everything can work out the way you want it to. I do not particularly blame these individuals but things could have been better for everyone else. These are reasons why you should not hate these 6 individuals:

    Xuande – even though he is worldshifting with 900k, that’s even less than what his share really is. If everyone sold everything like it was planned to be Xuande would have walked away with about 950k~1Mil. Thus he deserves this money if everything went to plan.
    Miyamotomusashi/Herodrink/Lemia – Gatts left these Behemoth Mants in your hands when he left. Thus they are yours to use and help benefit the linkshell even thought there’s about 10 other people who deserved them more then you.
    Blizzy – Blizzy actually sold the Staff and was ready to do his part. Sure he bought a few things with it but his share should have covered it anyway.
    Gatts – Even though he invested millions in himself he was still willing to help and do stuff for free. At least he actually offered to help other people with his share of the money.

    I just have a few final comments to say. I have lost respect for all 6 of these individuals and I seriously never want to talk to you again (except Blizzy because he was willing to do the right thing, and maybe Miya since he said he was truely trying to sell). They point fingers at people like Gatts but end up doing the same exact thing thus making them just as guilty. Everyone decided to sell the Mants. and split the earnings. The only people who went against this were the people who actually had the items. Just please think how you would feel if you weren’t the ones with the Mants. You as a LS decided to split the earnings but those people decided to keep for themselves. Just remember those staffs and mantles you’re wearing were the work of 28 other people and not your own. Please at least show a little respect to your fellow comrades by not gloating/showing off your nice items.

    I call a saying to put this to an end. This whole HNM drama is getting old. It broke my LS and it broke my friends. There is nothing that can be done about anything so the best thing to do is just forget about it. No matter how hard you try nothing will change. I’ve been doing it for the past week straight. I just find it kinda sad how you cannot trust anyone no matter how much you know them. Shows how pathetic the human race really is and how low people can really go. I just hope maybe a few months down the road everyone can get together again and HNM hunt and carry on where they left off. Good luck to you all and I hope everything works out in the future. I'm just going to pretend like this never happened and I hope everyone else does the same.

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    Re: A Final End to all the HNM Drama

    Originally posted by Seymour
    Just remember those staffs and mantles you’re wearing were the work of 28 other people and not your own. Please at least show a little respect to your fellow comrades by not gloating/showing off your nice items.
    ><b

    And I'm off. No more forums. Please no one AIM or e-mail me anything regarding FFXI anymore, and if ANYTHING is to be split, send my share to Seyumi. Goodbye people, it's been real.
    DRK75 / THF37 / WAR37 / RDM60 / BLM31 / PLD11

    ohnoez

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    • #3
      dude, sey, I had a lot of respect for you for all the things you did to help me when I was a lower level. but this post just wiped all of that. You apparently don't know shit. I said from the beginning I would sell my behemoth mantle. Know what the problem is? NO ONE BUYS THEM. We have three, and not a single one has sold. I had mine in the AH for one period (week vanadiel time). I'm not keeping it for myself, I've worn the mantle ONCE.
      I didn't mind you trying to "help everyone out", but now you pissed me off, because this seriously has nothing to do with you.
      and another "FACT", I don't have the damn mantle.
      so shut up and go cry some more.
      MiyamotoMusashi
      Bastok Missions completed
      Zilart Missions completed

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      • #4
        cool.

        oh and i'm cool with everyone. always was. if you have beef w/ me just because i join RE then?@if anyone change their mind about selling/keeping their behe mat give me a /t or just send whatever share you think is fair to my moggle

        see you awn~ too bad to see you go this way. you were very helpful when i first start off in this game so i wish you the best.

        ɼ

        thx to you too sey. no one else would tell me what was going on with this whole situation^^
        don't be jealous
        actually be jealous, just don't bother me lol

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        • #5
          Miya, all I heard was every time you and the other 2 Mant. holders got in a PT/Did a Mission/BC/Hunted for money, ect. you just took them out. They were only in the AH when you guys weren’t playing the game. No one was serious about selling it what so ever and that was a fact. I'm sorry if you tried really hard to sell it. The other 2 people made it clear that they weren’t going to and they said you weren’t either. Sorry I was given false information. I got many sources telling me that you didn't want to sell the Mant. but if you say you really tried then i'll talk your word for it. I can't know everything but might as well keep it now since no one else wants to sell theirs. Why don't you have yours anyway? :confused: No hard feelings dude~

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          • #6
            Just to make sure people don't go respecting blizzy for misinformed reasons: http://www.ff11.org/D;.jpg

            If you're wondering if this means blizzy spent 2 million+ gil of money that wasn't his, you might be right.

            Some people see that picture and think I have something to do with it. That they can blame me because I know blizz. I did know him. But, he is no longer my friend.

            This is not "xuande and goons," this is each person acting individually out of greed. And it's a joke. I feel embarrassed having been part of this.

            Some things to address before I leave:

            - Ariele gave me 900k that was given to her for guilding. So don't go after her, she has done nothing wrong. I changed the LS message when this happened to indicate this, then left for thanksgiving break. But, the LS message must have been changed to something else before anyone could read it, as it seems to be a big surprise.

            I feel bad because I lied. I had already planned on world shifting. I was faced with a dilemma which was namely: shift with nothing, or shift with what is less than your share and just deal with it. I decided to take the money considering that I wouldn't be around long enough for everything to sell and get settled. I honestly believed that the holders of the staff and 3 mantles could work things out, and the money would get distributed properly. When I got back from my break, I realized how wrong I was.

            Blizzy sold the staff for well under what I advised and bought 2 million gil worth of personal use items. The 3 mants haven't sold. I'm not inclined to part with money I feel I deserve when no one is doing the right thing. You know how far 900k will go if we divide it based on the GP system? You'll get about 50k. And so will I. It just doesn't sound fair to me. So..

            I'm a thief, I'm a hipocrite, I'm whatever you want me to be. I took advantage of a situation. However, there's one thing I'm not. I'm not responsible for this mess. I regret taking the initiative to get everything sorted out fairly. People now see me as some kind of leader who made this mess. Gatts was the leader who made this mess. I simply tried to get everyone to do what I thought was right. It is ultimately in their hands. I have no control over it. To me, I'm just leaving this mess with my share. If you want your share, you know who to take it up with: Blizzy, Lemia, Herodrink, Miyamotomusashi.

            - The "GP system" was a joke and it was going to be scrapped before Gatts left. We were going to award people based on who we all knew deserved it. Some people were always there. Others were more content hunting things on their own, or leveling up. These people who weren't dedicated often cost us a chance at a HNM because of how few people we had. I don't feel these people deserve anything despite how much "GP" they had. It was a meaningless number, and a horrible system. People who place so much importance in how much they deserve based on our point system are the ones who know they really don't deserve anything. I'm not naming people. You know who you are.

            - If I could delete my post about gatts stealing money, I would. There was no scheme that gatts pulled off. He just wanted to ditch us and pursue his greater goals in the game. I don't approve of what gatts has done, infact I think he's done a lot of wrong things. But, I retract all remarks I've made about him planning an elaborate hoax and being a thief. I was just a little upset when I made that post. I feel better now that I've "ripped everyone off" of the 50k they should have got.

            - To RE members, it seems certain people think I "backstabbed" you. Even if I kept my pearl, the only thing I could do is get pop times. Woohoo, now I know when monsters pop that I can't hunt.

            I left because I've been in a deadend HNM LS before. And, as others seem to feel as well, RE is one of those.

            I appologized to Lyon for accusing RE of breaking the rules. He said he'd tell the others. If he didn't, then I appologize here. Since all rules are player made, it's really hard to know them. I just assumed what was fair and honest would be the way it was done. I was wrong again.

            - To Requiem, or what's left of it: sorry guys. This ordeal just about ruined everything. But, this is just one more episode in importer politics. The very bullshit I want to get away from. I'm not fleeing with the money. I'm trying to get away from what makes this game suck. For those of you who still consider me your friend, thank you. I'll be on that friends list for as long as I continue to play this game.

            - To people reading this who don't really know whats going on: don't talk about me. You don't know me, you don't know what I've done, you know nothing. Spread rumors and lies if you feel like continuing the cycle of importer political bullshit. You are the bullshit.

            To wrap things up, I wish I could say it's been grand. I had a lot of fun with a select few people and to you I thank for the great time, even though you now hate me. I'll be on rag until the 8th so maybe things can be cleared up before I leave. If they aren't, I leave it up to the people with items to make decisions that are fair. It is all I could have done anyway. Farewell ~
            Gatts - PLD75/WAR37
            and you call your self a canadian

            PiNG broke my sig and all I got was this T-shirt.

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            • #7
              I wish things could have worked out better than they did. I don't personally hold a grudge against anyone. If there was any way I could give back the gil I spent on guilding, I would. If anyone needs any tanning done, pls /tell me.
              Gatts - PLD75/WAR37

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              • #8
                Good times.
                face it xuande, sey beat you, you lost, it's over. everyone is trying to ruin you, you can't escape. -Gatts
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                • #9
                  orts you are still my ƒjƒbƒK?@(*'-')
                  lets ƒJƒ“ƒXƒg our jobs together (?L?EƒÖ?E`)‚‚
                  and you got a level 20s job? i am going to level my smn next

                  oh back to topic
                  we get jacked
                  so what...
                  agian?
                  gee -_-
                  omfgbbq ;3

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                  • #10
                    I know you guys don't respect my opinion at all, I know I'm new (I've only been playing for 5 days), but I need to say something.


                    FFXI is a game.
                    You guyz are loosing REAL LIFE friends over a FUCKING GAME.
                    What is this world coming to....


                    That is all.

                    my equipment

                    I'm done - retired.

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                    • #11
                      kira (my secret spy) - we must take a break from reberu age! well i must anyway to catch up mission first but:

                      lvl17@2k blm
                      lvl22@1.5k whm

                      /slap motion this computer in the lab doesn't display japanese characters

                      xua - i don't hate you yo. you were nice to me in the past when we did bc60 together. i don't forget past kindness in the midst of all this stupid drama. wish you luck in the next world you end up being on and enjoy your share because you earned it. hope you don't hold anything against me.

                      (kekeke, i can kiss ass but my comment is sincere)

                      :sweat: :sweat: :sweat:
                      don't be jealous
                      actually be jealous, just don't bother me lol

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by rewindthemovie
                        I know you guys don't respect my opinion at all, I know I'm new (I've only been playing for 5 days), but I need to say something.


                        FFXI is a game.
                        You guyz are loosing REAL LIFE friends over a FUCKING GAME.
                        What is this world coming to....


                        That is all.
                        So what you're saying is that everyone who plays this game and posted in this topic are nothing but big losers and have no friends? Kinda hitting below the belt there. Some people might have more than a life than you and you don't know that so you got no right posting something like that.

                        I'm glad everyone has made up. Good luck on your new server Xuande and I might need a few things guilded Gatts if you don’t mind :p I provide materials and maybe even a little cash on the side. /t me if interested~

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                        • #13
                          ? mantle has been in AH for over 27 weeks (vana'diel time). It just never sells.

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                          • #14
                            I have stopped carring, thats why im LVing THF

                            Well anywayz, bye Xuande sorry to see u go :sweat:
                            Alldo - Bastok - Rank 9
                            Zilart Missions: 1-12
                            Dynamis Cleared: Bastok, San'd Oria
                            Relic: 2/5

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                            • #15
                              Xuande you kool yo, good luck on new server life
                              b
                              Dont stop leveling that DRK of yours and just LV BRD yo w





                              P.S. im still very in wonderin of will it work for ppl ike DRG, DRK who doesnt likes to sub WAR to sub SAM after patch and would PT still work out,

                              some ppl say just make PT w/o THF with2 dudes who can do provoke, hmm hmm, would that really work, hmm hmm..... makes me wonder w
                              looking forward to see the ghetto changes WWW
                              (汗)

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