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[AtraposBLM]

The hate reset thing is a one time cost of 18-20k, and then to repeat the hate reset, its usually 500-2.5k. Not too bad, considering most times, Everyone's Grudge/Rancor can one hit just about anyone. Doing windy m7-1 (or was it 7-2...I forget), the drk in my party took a 1,900 damage rancor in the face. Doing ZM4, Ceciliantas took a 6,000 damage rancor. Shit happens O.o


Also, I heard that the way you can figure out how many tonberries you've killed is that you take 5 damage per tonberry killed. So in order to take a 10,000 damage grudge/rancor, you would need a combined total of 2,000 tonberry kills. That's fairly ridiculous lol.

[Vinen]

quick clarification:

What Rodin said is true of Everyone's Grudge.

However, the attack this tonberry did was Everyone's RANCOR. What happens in this case is the each party member's grudge level are added into one attack.

The tank's grudge could be at 30, but the whm's grudge could be at 700, the rdm at 500, and the last two members 200 each, and Everyone's Rancor would do 1730 whereas Everyone's Grudge would do 30 to the tank.

This is why EVERYONE needs to reset their hate before Zilart Mission 4.

Hrmmm nope.. I think~
It doesnt work that way. Everyones Rancor is just a stronger version of everyones Grudge. Ive done ZM4, 4 or 5 times now, heck ive had people go in with Rancor that deals about 900damage, but the tank had just reset. It didnt do near this amount of damage. (A SAM and RNG in my LS both refuse to reset there rancor.... I think they are both taking over 1k damage from normal Everyones Grudge).

Of course it could take all the rancor of everyone in the group and then lessen each one and add them toghter. This may make sense, but I doubt it.

But I still think that doesnt equal the horror of the 3500 damage Spirts Within from AA EV. I mean at least the Grudge is resetable, the 3500 damage SW is ><.

Also, I heard that the way you can figure out how many tonberries you've killed is that you take 5 damage per tonberry killed. So in order to take a 10,000 damage grudge/rancor, you would need a combined total of 2,000 tonberry kills. That's fairly ridiculous lol.

It seems to go up on some small scales which slowly increases expidentaly. Once you hit 700 or 800 it seems to go up 10+ damage a kill, it starts getting really ugly around this time.

[FFWar101]

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[itazura]

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everyone's rancor is everyone's tonberry hate pooled into one hit. it ignored def/stoneskin/blink/phalax also. same goes for everyone's grudge... only that's just your own tonberry count.
i think i got hit for around 1500 while soloing tonberries one day.. :/

throat stab on carbuncle killing him, then instantly everyone's grudge on me before i even knew what had happened...... total freak accident. > <