Anyway to see FPS?

[Pavlyn]

is there a command so that i can view FPS in game? thanks for any help you can provide.

[Furinex]

Now that would be F*cking Cool.

[Atma]

Your FPS is 30, unless it is less then that. The game is capped at 30fps.

[SilverMatrix]

the game is capped at 30fps? What kinda *@(018!!*(!)#*)!!!!! BULL @*#(!)*! MOTHER #*90$*! SH!!~*#90182$ IS THAT!

Oh yea I forgot to mention they also have that 56k cap shit. I have cable internet and can't take advantage of that ingame. we pay what like 13$ average every month and we get poor connections. I have to wait like a minute for everybody to load in jeuno.. thats horse shit if u ask me :mad: :mad:

[Macht]

Reason for the restrictions is they wanted to level the games playing field so it's fair to everyone even the ones that only have a 56k connection.

[Anom]

There is that FRAPS 3rd party software that'll show you framerate, as well as let you take fullsize screenshots.... I think you can also make movies with it... haven't really messed with it a whole lot..

Anyways, check out fraps.com

[Aniedi]

Frame rate has nothing to do with being fair over a 56 k connection.

Frame rate is not your in game character's speed, its just the overall smoothness of the world. You'd notice no in game advantage to being 30 fps all the time or 60 fps all the time.

The 30 FPS might be for another reason altogether; they may have done this so with a great system you'll always be at 30 fps, instead of being at 55 then sometimes going down to 34 and complaining about game performance. This way the game "appears" to perform better on a great system since its capped at 30 FPS. So as long as you always see 30 FPS with fraps, you'd be satisfied.

At least that is how I understand frame rate.

[Omena]

You can't really see a difference between 30 and 60 FPS. At 30 it gets about as smooth as it can be.

[Daemaki]

well, your eyes may not be able to tell 30 from 60, but mine sure can. But anything over 60, and I really can't tell.

[Meriadoc]

The human eye on average can be satisfied with 24 frames per second (this is what movies run at in theaters in most cases)
so 30 frames per second won't be the end of the world ...

bandwidth...

bandwidth has nothing to do with your pingrate to the server (those two little numbers in the top right corner)
Which means in theory, a 56k connection CAN have better latency than a cable connection, hence helping with lag..
Why i say only in theory, well it's mostly cos people like both, and in most cases the latency is low with broadband connections...

If the game is capped at 56k to make it fair, it makes sense...
Imagine the people who have the money to pay for a 45mbit connection (T3) so instead of having 2-3kb of info going to and from the server, they get their full (insert huge number here)... that would be sort of unfair... But the chances of that much information actually NEEDING to be transfered is next to none..56k cap does the trick for what the game needs to function, minus lost packets, lag spikes... etc..

Just about every online game out there caps the the bandwidth of the connections.. (frankly, I don't know of any that don't)
Battlenet does it (aka Blizzard) Valve does it (for CS or whatever) Quake does it...
Which goes to show that to play an online game, all that's needed is 3-4kb/sec trickling to and from the server, at a constant and reliable rate, and at a reasonable speed(latency)

It will be interesting to see in the future games that would make use of higher bandwidth..

[Baradak]

Movies and television can run at 24 FPS because of motion blur. Video games do not have motion blur...atm. Nvidia did have a version of Quake3 with motion blur enabled for demo purposes. The latest video cards can support motion blur, but the individual games have to code for it. Also, in FPS type games, 30 FPS may be fine when you're running straight forward, but if you turn/spin quickly, 30fps won't keep up with the rate of your turn, it will skitter. This is where the higher FPS has its biggest benefits.



As for the 56k cap:
It does help level the playing field, but in some situations it can be a big detriment to those who can utilize the greater bandwidth. When you're in an area with a lot of activity going on your bandwidth can become oversaturated: requiring more than the 7KB/s max that 56k can provide.

[EtRNaL168]

ok shut the expletive deleted up there is a great difference between 30fps and 60 so dont compare this to motion pictures.

There is a world difference between 30 and 60 in games, and that is the reason people buy good video cards; Good video cards = higher fps if your game allows it. Get it?

pai pai wuz here

[Meriadoc]

Baradak is correct.
the other guy(etrnal) deserves about as much attention as I would give a rock. None.


(That version of Quake III was pretty nice)

[Atma]

Originally posted by EtRNaL168
ok shut the expletive deleted up there is a great difference between 30fps and 60 so dont compare this to motion pictures.

There is a world difference between 30 and 60 in games, and that is the reason people buy good video cards; Good video cards = higher fps if your game allows it. Get it?

Speak for yourself. I bought a "better video card" so my frame rate wouldn't drop below 30 during periods of high activity, not so I could brag about how big my FPS-Penis is.

[peacemaker]

Originally posted by EtRNaL168
ok shut the expletive deleted up there is a great difference between 30fps and 60 so dont compare this to motion pictures.

There is a world difference between 30 and 60 in games, and that is the reason people buy good video cards; Good video cards = higher fps if your game allows it. Get it?

Flame. Warning Points awarded.