Day/Moon Success vs HQ consensus check.

[ioshua]

Ok, having done a -wee- bit of testing on my own and reading the forums I am thinking the below standards are true. Experienced crafters who have run their own tests are BEGGED to correct. Data appreciated.

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Success/Skillup = Full Moon + Light/Same/Crystal-strong-to-Day
HQ = Full/New Moon + Crystal-weak-to-Day/Dark

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I'm wondering if the HQ logic is like I've seen in some other games. The farther you are from easy success, the closer you are to a crit. Is this a good rule of thumb? I know there will probably be some variance but, as I understand it, those are a simplification of the currently agreed upon Success vs HQ standards.

IF I'M WAY OFF PLEASE CORRECT - BAD INFO=POISON

[kengosan]

well, full moon + lightday F***ed me over for skill up, i am lv95.8 leathercraft ATM, and was making panzer mask (listed 103 cap on mysterytour) for skill up, i made 19 of them and not even 0.1 skill up. each panzer mask cost liek 25-30k to make, 500k down the drain. :mad:

[AzzHauler]

I seem to have noticed more HQ on new moon as opposed to full moon. And most of my crafting (cooking) is with fire crystals so I do it on darkday, so I can't know whether its the dark day doing it or being the day-before-the-crystal. Success is definitely better on lightday, and day-of-the-crystal is also good.

[Brennon]

i've always had the *highest* skill up rates during lighsdays, especially during full moons. . . and the highest HQ rates during a new moon/darksday.

i still need to do more HQ testing, just for my own satisfaction of what's good and whats not, but a new moon/darksday is definately good for HQ. As long as your significantly above the cap of the recepie you want to synth

[poweryoga]

from my experiences:

Full Moon = HQ up a lot + Skill rate up, success up. Everything up basically.
New Moon = HQ up dramatically, no noticable change in skill/success up.

Same day: Sucess up (more so than strong), HQ up. Skill rate up.
Strong day: Success up, HQ up (more so than same day) skill rate up.
Weak day: Success down, no noticable difference in HQ. Skill rate up (? not sure)

[dworkin]

lvling pld i was making steamed crayfish for lvling in the dunes. turns out i was making just as many boiled crayfish. ( h.q of the steamed crayfish.) an i noticed that the day of the week was iceday. a fire crystals weakest day.


2 things i noticed. was your crafting lvl helps make H.Q. in the notion you will hardly fail do to your current lvl vs a low lvl item. add in the weakest day of the crystal. an you are more likely to have a H.Q

[AzzHauler]

Originally posted by dworkin
lvling pld i was making steamed crayfish for lvling in the dunes. turns out i was making just as many boiled crayfish. ( h.q of the steamed crayfish.) an i noticed that the day of the week was iceday. a fire crystals weakest day.


2 things i noticed. was your crafting lvl helps make H.Q. in the notion you will hardly fail do to your current lvl vs a low lvl item. add in the weakest day of the crystal. an you are more likely to have a H.Q

Hey there, I believe we've met, if you're on cerberus anyways. And just a slight correction, it's the other way around: boiled is regular and steamed crab is HQ.

[poweryoga]

actually, ice day is the day fire crystals are strong against. Watersday is the day it's weak to.

[imstimpy]

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I just completed a little crafting spree mystelf. I was crafting with earth crystals. Some of the crafting was done on windsday (crystal weak to), some was done on lightningsday (crystal strong to), and some was done on lightsday. There was a noticeable increase in loss of material on windsday and so I stopped shortly afterwards. There was also a noticeable increase in skillups on lightsday and lightningsday. Moon was 50% so it was effectively out of the picture.

More testing for me is needed, but my initial results were enough to convince me I should atleast try to craft on the crystal's strong to days or lightsday.

[LoneWolfy]

Originally posted by poweryoga
from my experiences:

Full Moon = HQ up a lot + Skill rate up, success up. Everything up basically.
New Moon = HQ up dramatically, no noticable change in skill/success up.

Same day: Sucess up (more so than strong), HQ up. Skill rate up.
Strong day: Success up, HQ up (more so than same day) skill rate up.
Weak day: Success down, no noticable difference in HQ. Skill rate up (? not sure)

This is what I believe generally most ppl go by, but I wonder if Dark or Lightsday have any impact on any crystal as far as HQ success is concerned?

[poweryoga]

More info from further testing.

Darksday = HQ UP , success rate down. skill gain up.
Lighsday = HQ down, success rate way up. skill gain DOWN. (please confirm)

From my experience, I don't gain as much skill on lightsday as I would on sameday or strong day (day crystal is strong to) but obviously I succeed a lot more. (perfect day for those trying to make some items but not looking for HQ. )

[Matkun]

Originally posted by poweryoga
More info from further testing.

Darksday = HQ UP , success rate down. skill gain up.
Lighsday = HQ down, success rate way up. skill gain DOWN. (please confirm)

From my experience, I don't gain as much skill on lightsday as I would on sameday or strong day (day crystal is strong to) but obviously I succeed a lot more. (perfect day for those trying to make some items but not looking for HQ. )

Are you seeing higher HQ because you got for example 5 HQs and 10 normal synths on Darksday, vs 5 HQs and 15 normal synths on Lightsday?

Or is it 5 HQs out of 20 attempts on Darksday vs 3 HQs out of 20 attempts on Lightsday?

Note: made up numbers just for example.

Just trying to clear it up, because some people see more HQs vs normal synths on darksday, which could just be caused by them failing more often (ie: failed synth) rather then getting more HQs out of x total attempts.

[poweryoga]

even if you DO fail more often on darksday, you still get more HQ.

Example:

10 HQ on darksday and 10 normal synths.
5 HQ on lighsday and 15 normal synths.

Darksday still has more HQ regardless of the higher failure rate. I don't know if failing something makes the HQ rate go up but I highly doubt it.

I've been making shiheis on windsday, earthsday, lightsday, and darksday. The most memorable one was on darksday i HQed 9 shiheis in a row and failed one out of 12 synths. (it was on some random moon cycle that's NOT new/full moon)

The best other one I can remember was earthsday. I don't try to craft it on lightsday because i usually almost never get a HQ on lightsday while mkaing shihei.

[iglak]

i noticed that crafting with wind crystals on lightningsday has a success rate equal to or worse than earthsday (it seems worse).

[poweryoga]

wind has no relation to lightening, so if its worse than earthsday (good crafting for wind) then its doing exactly what its suppose to be...

normal.