2008 Premier Site Summit . . . OR, Why Has Not Anybody Made a Thread On This Yet?

[Malacite]

Re: 2008 Premier Site Summit . . . OR, Why Has Not Anybody Made a Thread On This Yet?

There's a line between having fun with a hobby and simply wasting hours of your life to at a blatantly stupid/excessive goal. Comparing how much game time you have overall to say spending 10 hours fighting AV isn't the same thing at all;

One is a measurement of how much time you've invested into the game as a whole over a long period of time. The other is an arbitrary, sadistic event spewed forth from the Dev Team's bowels and in all seriousness a total f'ing waste of time (though this is subject to opinion, would you rather spend maybe 30-120 minutes having some fun and maybe accomplish a few small goals, or blow pretty well your entire day killing one "epic" monster. Hmm...)

[Lmnop]

Re: 2008 Premier Site Summit . . . OR, Why Has Not Anybody Made a Thread On This Yet?

I feel for the people who spent their money on shit like sports memorabilia or collector's items, etc. I'd say Harleys but I'm afraid of my non-video gaming grandmother. One who's been exposed to GTA cannot be worth crossing.

...anyway, looking at other people's lives I occasionally think "Wow. Look at all the time they're spending, getting involved in everything and never relaxing for a minute. Look at all the money they've spent on exercise equipment and lawn gnomes. Look at all those excessive matching coffee tables. Think of how many good video games they could be through."

/shrug

To each their own.

[Feba]

Re: 2008 Premier Site Summit . . . OR, Why Has Not Anybody Made a Thread On This Yet?

This depressed me.....thanks Feba

I play to my strengths.

[TheGrandMom]

Re: 2008 Premier Site Summit . . . OR, Why Has Not Anybody Made a Thread On This Yet?

For that matter, look at how many video games you have on your shelf, and figure up how much they cost. Then say "YAY! I've wasted <amount of money>, not to mention a fuck of a lot of time, playing video games!".

This depressed me.....thanks Feba. I could have a brand new Harley....with accessories!

[Feba]

Re: 2008 Premier Site Summit . . . OR, Why Has Not Anybody Made a Thread On This Yet?

Here's your medal, go you play with yourself.

Do me a favor. Type /playtime.

Then say "YAY! I've wasted </playtime> playing a video game!". For that matter, look at how many video games you have on your shelf, and figure up how much they cost. Then say "YAY! I've wasted <amount of money>, not to mention a fuck of a lot of time, playing video games!".

You are not one to judge.

[Malacite]

Re: 2008 Premier Site Summit . . . OR, Why Has Not Anybody Made a Thread On This Yet?

I consider a hard/time consuming fight something that lasts up to an hour, two tops. Anything beyond that is excessive.

"YAY! I wasted an entire day killing a virtual monster!"

Here's your medal, go you play with yourself. At least that's how I see it. (Note; this is a generalization, not an attack on anyone @.@ so dun jump on me mods)

[Feba]

Re: 2008 Premier Site Summit . . . OR, Why Has Not Anybody Made a Thread On This Yet?

While it sounds simple enough, it ignores the fact that he's near impossible to actually kill,

Once again, Ziero, you're making assumptions based on what we know about AV.

WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT AV IS OBVIOUSLY NOT THE WAY TO KILL HIM.

[Grizzlebeard]

Re: 2008 Premier Site Summit . . . OR, Why Has Not Anybody Made a Thread On This Yet?

Because people want fights that are hard and time consuming.

1 in a 10,000 maybe. Everyone else who is honest about it wants something challenging enough to allow them to wave their e-peens with the kill title while easy enough to allow them more than a fair chance at obtaining "must have drop #4".

[Ziero]

Re: 2008 Premier Site Summit . . . OR, Why Has Not Anybody Made a Thread On This Yet?

You know, the argument about the alliance that gets the kill... and the title...

Dont HNMLSs have point systems to decide who gets which drop? They kill HNM multiple times so more people can get the drops, can't the same thing be done with AV? If people want the title so bad, kill it multiple times...

While it sounds simple enough, it ignores the fact that he's near impossible to actually kill, let alone do it repeatedly. With monsters like him, where you need so many for so long and have very little chance at actually winning, a different system should be in place for the titles at least. Maybe something like the Dash Sash event a while back with a ??? spawning on the ground that only people who engaged the mob can click or something.

And so that begs the question of why even bother making these things so god damned hard/time consuming in the 1st place.

Because people want fights that are hard and time consuming. And while 6 man BCs and other battlefield type mobs may be good for some, for many others they're not worth doing because they're too easy. With Mobs like AV, and now the Warden, people can say there is still a monster to put up a fight against the best they have.

[Malacite]

Re: 2008 Premier Site Summit . . . OR, Why Has Not Anybody Made a Thread On This Yet?

And so that begs the question of why even bother making these things so god damned hard/time consuming in the 1st place.

[TheGrandMom]

Re: 2008 Premier Site Summit . . . OR, Why Has Not Anybody Made a Thread On This Yet?

You know, the argument about the alliance that gets the kill... and the title...

Dont HNMLSs have point systems to decide who gets which drop? They kill HNM multiple times so more people can get the drops, can't the same thing be done with AV? If people want the title so bad, kill it multiple times...

In my defunct ls, the person that got the minerva's ring left the ls and I believe he quit the game not too long afterwards. I don't know, the thought of all that work/effort and getting such an awesome drop and then people quitting/leaving etc just makes me sick to my stomach.

[Cotners]

Re: 2008 Premier Site Summit . . . OR, Why Has Not Anybody Made a Thread On This Yet?

You know, the argument about the alliance that gets the kill... and the title...

Dont HNMLSs have point systems to decide who gets which drop? They kill HNM multiple times so more people can get the drops, can't the same thing be done with AV? If people want the title so bad, kill it multiple times...

Yes and no, while our LS has killed Vrtra 4 times I still don't have the title because I am always in the add parties taking care of vrtra's smns and random pops in the area. Summoners are our main dmg source on Vrtra, well was anyway before they gave Vrtra draw in.

[Aksannyi]

Re: 2008 Premier Site Summit . . . OR, Why Has Not Anybody Made a Thread On This Yet?

I love collecting titles, but no way am I gonna hang out for 18 hours to get one. Nope.

[Balfree]

Re: 2008 Premier Site Summit . . . OR, Why Has Not Anybody Made a Thread On This Yet?

You know, the argument about the alliance that gets the kill... and the title...

Dont HNMLSs have point systems to decide who gets which drop? They kill HNM multiple times so more people can get the drops, can't the same thing be done with AV? If people want the title so bad, kill it multiple times...

[Feba]

Re: 2008 Premier Site Summit . . . OR, Why Has Not Anybody Made a Thread On This Yet?

When I see threads complaining about relics, it's about removing the reliance on obtaining massive quantities of gil.

There's also the issue of it requiring a large group effort (specifically, the NMs) for what is essentially only a reward for one person. Which again goes back to "FFXI is great if you have large amounts of excellent friends, and pretty frustrating otherwise."

And at the end of the day, it's still a HR achievement, not a gaming achievement.

And what the hell is a 'gaming achievement'? It's obviously not pressing buttons quickly enough, with skill. FFXI's "achievements" have ALWAYS been a matter of planning strategy, endurance, and a little bit of luck. Simple comparison: look at Kingdom Hearts, then look at FFXI. KH, you can almost always win if your reflexes are good enough; regardless of how horribly you've set yourself up. FFXI, the wrong piece of armor could make the difference between life and death, regardless of how skilled you are.