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  • Aeni
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    Originally posted by Caspian View Post
    I actually really like the air flow my case gets, two huge fans on the side, one on the front and two at the top. When you say rack, do you mean the bays at the front up top? Like where my hdd and bd player are? I noticed on the amazon link that you can get the bay adapter separately for mounting them, is that the recommended place? Guess I'm not sure what side mounting to the case means. (I'm pathetic, I know)
    New cases have screw mounts on the side of the case for you to attach an SSD to, but my advice would be to get the rail kit and put it in the drive bays instead.

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  • Caspian
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    Originally posted by Aeni View Post
    Make sure you have adequate ventilation and if at all possible, mount it on a rack rather than side mounting to the case of your CPU, because the bugger can run really hot (I think all SSDs have heat dissipation issues that you do not want to attach to the walls of your CPU case and shut off proper air flow around them)
    I actually really like the air flow my case gets, two huge fans on the side, one on the front and two at the top. When you say rack, do you mean the bays at the front up top? Like where my hdd and bd player are? I noticed on the amazon link that you can get the bay adapter separately for mounting them, is that the recommended place? Guess I'm not sure what side mounting to the case means. (I'm pathetic, I know)

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  • Aeni
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    Originally posted by Caspian View Post
    Yeah, once I get my house sold my budget won't be an issue, right now Im planning on grabbing a decent 1TB hdd that will end up being the storage drive when all this is said and done. Figure I'll upgrade to Windows 7 when I get the ssd. I know hdd brands fairly decently, but what about ssd's? I trust Samsung with tv's but do they make good ssd's?
    Funny should ask, as I own a Samsung 840 SSD. I got unlucky as a cell or two was already BOA (burnt on arrival), but rather than send it back, I diagnosed the problem with an HDD utility, had it marked off (the drives have an advanced version of SMART technology where a highly reliable cache stores information regarding the health of the drives) so that reinstalling Windows 7 went off w/o further issues and it has been fast, smooth (did I say fast?) and I could never go back to spinning drives again. Make sure you have adequate ventilation and if at all possible, mount it on a rack rather than side mounting to the case of your CPU, because the bugger can run really hot (I think all SSDs have heat dissipation issues that you do not want to attach to the walls of your CPU case and shut off proper air flow around them) The only issues I have now on occassion with booting up has to do with my Windows 7 being unhappy with a fast boot (because SSD boots up so fast, I think shit just doesn't get loaded up from the BIOS before the driver libraries are accessed) I may have to disable fast boot from BIOS to get around this problem.

    If you can afford it, since prices have really come down on their PRO series, and their EVO as well.

    Amazon.com: Samsung Electronics 840 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5-Inch SATA III Single Unit Version Internal Solid State Drive MZ-7TE250BW: Computers & Accessories


    ** If at all possible, do not buy any 120gb versions of any SSDs out there, no matter how cheap they may appear, because it's still more expensive $/gb than the 240/250 versions of the same model. **
    Last edited by Aeni; 10-25-2013, 01:24 PM.

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  • Caspian
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    Yeah, once I get my house sold my budget won't be an issue, right now Im planning on grabbing a decent 1TB hdd that will end up being the storage drive when all this is said and done. Figure I'll upgrade to Windows 7 when I get the ssd. I know hdd brands fairly decently, but what about ssd's? I trust Samsung with tv's but do they make good ssd's?

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  • Aeni
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    Originally posted by Malacite View Post
    If MMOs are that taxing on HDDs, what about SSDs? No moving parts, but won't it eat into the shelf life of the thing much more steeply?
    Depends on Caspian's budget. Although I have to agree that SSDs should be more reliable, but they still are not immune to manufacturing defects, in much the same way as you will occasionally come across lemon memory cards.

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    Originally posted by Caspian View Post
    Weird part is this is the same rig I used for raiding in WoW for a couple years, never happened before.
    Thanks for the tip about checking the sleep mode, I'll look at it when I get a new hdd installed this weekend.
    I'll look for the red series this weekend. I'm looking at a fairly inexpensive Seagate that Best Buy has (I don't want to wait on shipping and I rediscovered a couple gift cards I have for there the other day) but I'll check on something a little more robust since it will likely be relegated to storage once I get an ssd and a new version of Windows. (I knew Windows 8's UI was bad, didn't know how much it had changed since 8.1)
    Caspian, sorry, go with the WD Blue instead if you do go with WD, but not the red. I got mixed up between the other thread as I was thinking NAS, but you're looking for a main drive, and the blue is reliable (black is fast and nice and all, but I heard of complaints of noise, heat and sector errors, while ironically the green has more reliability problems than all of their other drives) And I agree with Mal, look into a good deal, coupon or no, on an SSD drive. Price has come down a lot, I know they don't offer much storage, but if you have secondary drives to fulfill that role, consider an SSD instead.

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  • Malacite
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    If MMOs are that taxing on HDDs, what about SSDs? No moving parts, but won't it eat into the shelf life of the thing much more steeply?

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  • cidbahamut
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    Originally posted by Firewind View Post
    I was just listing the Pros of Windows 8. Honestly very few applications even need that much RAM and even if you required it, you would have built a specialist computer for it anyway.
    More accurately you'd build a server or a cluster.

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  • Caspian
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    Originally posted by Aeni View Post
    Caspian's problem isn't directly tied to FFXIV but I can see that it could be a result of just using your computer a lot more than you'd otherwise would have if you never played any kind of online game. The disk activity with many MMORPGs are really taxing, much more so than most other kinds of games, so the HDD will be accessed frequently. If you have power-saving mode enabled, this makes it even more stressful, as your HDD is constantly stopping, going, stopping, going over and over again. Either set your sleep mode to something like 30 minutes of disk inactivity or disable it entirely (I believe it's defaulted to 5 min but don't quote me on that)

    You should also look into a more robust HDD and install Intel's Disk Monitoring software to be on top of the health of your drives as it's a lot accurate in predicting faults and failures. WD came out with NAS drives (Their Red series) and that might be more better suited for gaming than their other series, like the Blue, Green and Black. Not sure about other brands and their level of fault tolerance and robustness.
    Weird part is this is the same rig I used for raiding in WoW for a couple years, never happened before.
    Thanks for the tip about checking the sleep mode, I'll look at it when I get a new hdd installed this weekend.
    I'll look for the red series this weekend. I'm looking at a fairly inexpensive Seagate that Best Buy has (I don't want to wait on shipping and I rediscovered a couple gift cards I have for there the other day) but I'll check on something a little more robust since it will likely be relegated to storage once I get an ssd and a new version of Windows. (I knew Windows 8's UI was bad, didn't know how much it had changed since 8.1)

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  • Firewind
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    Originally posted by Malacite View Post
    So what? Generally speaking 12 GB is the most you'll ever need, unless you intend to stream & record live games like I do in which case the more the better (or if you do a lot of heavy video editing)

    Besides, IIRC, Win 7 64-bit has a max of 32 GB RAM?
    I was just listing the Pros of Windows 8. Honestly very few applications even need that much RAM and even if you required it, you would have built a specialist computer for it anyway.

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  • Aeni
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    Caspian's problem isn't directly tied to FFXIV but I can see that it could be a result of just using your computer a lot more than you'd otherwise would have if you never played any kind of online game. The disk activity with many MMORPGs are really taxing, much more so than most other kinds of games, so the HDD will be accessed frequently. If you have power-saving mode enabled, this makes it even more stressful, as your HDD is constantly stopping, going, stopping, going over and over again. Either set your sleep mode to something like 30 minutes of disk inactivity or disable it entirely (I believe it's defaulted to 5 min but don't quote me on that)

    You should also look into a more robust HDD and install Intel's Disk Monitoring software to be on top of the health of your drives as it's a lot accurate in predicting faults and failures. WD came out with NAS drives (Their Red series) and that might be more better suited for gaming than their other series, like the Blue, Green and Black. Not sure about other brands and their level of fault tolerance and robustness.

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  • Malacite
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    So what? Generally speaking 12 GB is the most you'll ever need, unless you intend to stream & record live games like I do in which case the more the better (or if you do a lot of heavy video editing)

    Besides, IIRC, Win 7 64-bit has a max of 32 GB RAM?

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  • Firewind
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    Windows 8 has no RAM limitations and has far better compatibility with Direct X 11.1. It's also slightly cheaper. The UI is garbage though.

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  • cidbahamut
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    In which case you're a mad person and should just buy a tablet instead.

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  • Malacite
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    Unless for some reason you LIKE using a Tablet UI on a desktop...

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  • cidbahamut
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    There is absolutely no reason to subject yourself to Windows 8. Windows 7 is rock solid and a more user friendly experience. It'll also outlast Windows 8.

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