1UP's FINAL FANTASY XI Traveler's Guide for Beginners!

[Blood Red Poet]

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This guy is a complete hypocritical idiot. I don't mean he is an idiot because he is an hypocrit, I mean he is additonally very retarded. Pai, why would you want anyone to read this? A lot of it makes it seem he has never played this game at all.

He claims Elemental Staves help with crafting HQ.

[Rai|Kye]

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actually war/nin with axe and shield was such a good tank that SE had to nerve shields.... think about it

[Aeni]

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Unfortunately I can't see what's in the article as of yet due to my work's internet filters, I can say one thing. Pre 30, which is what this guide is said to focus on, War/mnk is THE best tank in game. Ninjas have too few abilities to hold hate, along with only a single, long recast Utsu, which goes down VERY fast. And Plds don't have access to as much of the gear or abilities to put their Def to the vastly superior point it gets to late game over wars while having a rather low Dmg output. Meanwhile War/mnk has great hate holding, dmg mitigation, and dmg dealing capacity. Especially on things like crabs, which you fight often through out the early lvls, and even more so on Mandies which are just prime targets for War/mnk tanks.

It isn't until later lvls, when nins get Ni and Plds get more def and flash, that they start to really shine.

I agree with this comment.

PLDs don't do well until 30+ ... in fact, for most PLDs, until 37+ (Flash) ...

Same with NINs. Without Ni, they're absolute crap and more of an MP hog than the other two tanks...

WAR/MNK can tank really well in the early levels. No, you don't need NIN to sub to WAR at these levels either. In fact, it's better NOT to. For the same reasons why NIN is ineffective without Ni applies to WAR/NIN tanks as well. 3 shadows is just not enough reasons to lose higher MP and Dodge/Boost from MNK.

The guide is really nice. I just wished they had such a thing 3 years ago...

[Ziero]

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Unfortunately I can't see what's in the article as of yet due to my work's internet filters, I can say one thing. Pre 30, which is what this guide is said to focus on, War/mnk is THE best tank in game. Ninjas have too few abilities to hold hate, along with only a single, long recast Utsu, which goes down VERY fast. And Plds don't have access to as much of the gear or abilities to put their Def to the vastly superior point it gets to late game over wars while having a rather low Dmg output. Meanwhile War/mnk has great hate holding, dmg mitigation, and dmg dealing capacity. Especially on things like crabs, which you fight often through out the early lvls, and even more so on Mandies which are just prime targets for War/mnk tanks.

It isn't until later lvls, when nins get Ni and Plds get more def and flash, that they start to really shine.

[Darkhound]

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Thanks for the link

[Pai Pai Master]

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Well, I too believe that WAR can tank, and some may say "just as well" as Ninja or Paladin, but I think a lot of people would agree that they simply aren't as effective at it in a general EXP party. More mage MP needs to go into healing the Warrior and it's pretty inevitable that a string of bad luck could send the tank into critical condition, causing the need for another melee to take the heat off and mix up the action a bit. While a lot of players I know, myself included, are fine with this, it's pretty much common to be partying with people who only want to play in the most effective manner. Having a Warrior tank usually means longer downtime between monsters or at least longer battles. It's just common sense that a NIN or PLD are more effective tanks, with their respective methods to tanking.

[lionx]

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Lol i dont want to argue about that, its another thread altogether but somehow i disagree on that fact as well, i find WAR can tank just fine as PLD and NIN, just most dont want to. I might just take up a WAR just for tanking myself if i can get the time/my ass upto it ><;a Its just my opinion though, and i dont feel they need uber healing as well, just a WHM like with PLD.

But nevertheless it IS the guide for newbs. No brady crap X3

[Pai Pai Master]

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Well, he stated the truth. A warrior can tank, but not with excessive healing, as he stated, and their lower agility makes them much more challenging to keep alive in the cases of critical hits. He mentioned the fact that warriors can tank, but in the context that their tanking capabilities are very limited compared to the two main tanking jobs, Paladin and Ninja.

[lionx]

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I dont agree with everything he said in there (like WARs tanking) but this guide is definetly alot more accurate than every other one out there. Good stuff :3

[ultimaknight]

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Awesome guide, I had to bookmark it. Thanks for the link.

[Pai Pai Master]

1UP.com is unique among FFXI fans in that it actually pays attention to the events of FINAL FANTASY XI and the world of Vana'diel. That may because one of their more prominent editors, James Mielke, is a longtime FFXI player. For a few years now he's provided extensive coverage of FFXI in the form of news articles, interviews, editorials and even his very own column, My Life in Vana'diel, in which he chronicles the adventures of his character "Milkman" and his linkshell, "The Roundabouts," on the Siren server.

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