[Paranor] Linkshell Recruiting on Palamecia!

[Absentia]

Re: [Paranor] Linkshell Recruiting on Palamecia!

There doesn't need to be an anything. So what's the point to anything we do?

I don't believe as you do.

But if that's what you believe, why even post?

[DakAttack]

Re: [Paranor] Linkshell Recruiting on Palamecia!

That wasn't even a troll.

There doesn't really need to be a discussion about whether or not they should be making Teamspeak mandatory. If multiple people have already agreed upon it's requirement, where's the problem? While raiding in WoW, some guilds/pugs required you to use Vent, and justifiably so. It was much easier to talk to everyone about what to do before the encounters and also to be able to give commands on the fly when needed.

This type of linkshell/guild isn't for everyone, but that doesn't make it bad.

There doesn't need to be an anything. So what's the point to anything we do?

[Absentia]

Re: [Paranor] Linkshell Recruiting on Palamecia!

And there is no reason to come into the thread and berate people having a civil discussion about ls's using voice chat. Either join the discussion with valid points or quit trolling.

That wasn't even a troll.

There doesn't really need to be a discussion about whether or not they should be making Teamspeak mandatory. If multiple people have already agreed upon it's requirement, where's the problem? While raiding in WoW, some guilds/pugs required you to use Vent, and justifiably so. It was much easier to talk to everyone about what to do before the encounters and also to be able to give commands on the fly when needed.

This type of linkshell/guild isn't for everyone, but that doesn't make it bad.

[Luna Flower]

Re: [Paranor] Linkshell Recruiting on Palamecia!

From my experience, if they don't read ls chat they won't listen on voice chat either. They are usually the people that are playing DS or PSP...or doing something and not paying attention. They tend to take off their headsets too.

It is not that they dont want to pay attention to LS chat, its the way the game is designed at the present moment when you do anything the chat log moves very quickly. Most of the people in our ls are crafters, and as such need to pay attention to what they are doing on the screen. They dont have time to scroll up and down looking for what people have said.

We also use Teamspeak to build stronger bonds with each other. Not only does it assist us in uniting our linkshell personally. It also makes things a hell of a lot easier.

Oh and one more thing about the headsets. No one is saying YOU MUST be talking to anyone or keep your headset on for hours. Hell you can just go down to afk take off your headset and listen to music for all we care. We just want the members to get involved and if they expect any type of help from anyone that is something they must do.

---------- Post added at 04:35 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:38 AM ----------

Just wanted to let everyone know we also host ls events ^^ one of which is coming up very soon!

Thanks to Mijo Ramhorn and Granas Nightroad for the following event!

On Jan 15, 2011 3:00 pm EST we will be doing the Winner Takes all Run for your Life! Any LS members may sign up. There is a small entrance fee in which the winner of the contest will receive as a prize! You may use any job you want to do this run, however teleporting is strictly forbidden. If you are caught teleporting you will be disqualified. The event will take 2-3 hours to complete so make sure if you sign up you have time to complete the event. This event is not for the faint of heart, but will be fun and a chance to explore and possibly get camps and nodes that you may not have. Further details on the event will come in the next couple weeks.

Application Fee: 75 Shards of each element and 10 Crystals of your choice!

You can now sign up for this event under events or on the homepage. Details are being kept quite so that people do not have an unfair advantage. This will be a fun event and one that will be remembered. Plus this is a way to break the monotony of crafting, battle leves, and just plain grinding. Hope everyone will join! Remember the more that join the bigger the over-all reward!

[TheGrandMom]

Re: [Paranor] Linkshell Recruiting on Palamecia!

And there is no reason to come into the thread and berate people having a civil discussion about ls's using voice chat. Either join the discussion with valid points or quit trolling.

Oh and further note that this is for FFXIV not FFXI. The comparison is irrelevant since they are both entirely different games.

It has nothing to do with comparing the two games, it's about endgame mentality in any MMORPG.

There are many reasons we have this rule, one of which being some of our members do not pay attention to LS chat.

From my experience, if they don't read ls chat they won't listen on voice chat either. They are usually the people that are playing DS or PSP...or doing something and not paying attention. They tend to take off their headsets too.

[Etra]

Re: [Paranor] Linkshell Recruiting on Palamecia!

No one is forcing any of you to join Paranor.
No one is forcing any of you to follow Paranor's rules.
Therefore, there is no reason to get butt hurt over said rules.

This debate = stupid.

[Aeni]

Re: [Paranor] Linkshell Recruiting on Palamecia!

I don't see an issue as I'm used to this kind of rule in WoW (Some guilds in WoW were more draconian ... Paranor's rules are very light in comparison) Although I can understand both sides of the debate because this was a hot button issue in FFXI and there were a lot of people who went at each other's throats on this. Let's all try to remain calm and civil about this (I don't care either way, although I primarily use Vent myself)

[Luna Flower]

Re: [Paranor] Linkshell Recruiting on Palamecia!

Not going to question what you guys want, but in my opinion you're missing out on a lot of potentially good players by trying to enforce voice chat. Personally I'd hate having to get on teamspeak all the time, because I prefer listening to music over listening to people talk about the game I'm playing, while I play it.

Yes I can understand that, but you can easily just go to the "AFK" channel. There are many reasons we have this rule, one of which being some of our members do not pay attention to LS chat. I can see the benefit of not enforcing such a rule, but in the end it is not what we chose to do. We are looking for VERY specific people.

BTW this decision was not mine alone, we are an oligarchy so we decided the guidelines as a group.

[Fliegar]

Re: [Paranor] Linkshell Recruiting on Palamecia!

Not going to question what you guys want, but in my opinion you're missing out on a lot of potentially good players by trying to enforce voice chat. Personally I'd hate having to get on teamspeak all the time, because I prefer listening to music over listening to people talk about the game I'm playing, while I play it.

[Luna Flower]

Re: [Paranor] Linkshell Recruiting on Palamecia!

I understand and respect everyone's opinions on this matter. The fact remains tho that we only recruit members willing to use teamspeak. If you are not willing to use it, then by all means dont join. You would not be hurting us any bec obviously your not what we were looking for in the first place.

Oh and further note that this is for FFXIV not FFXI. The comparison is irrelevant since they are both entirely different games.

[TheGrandMom]

Re: [Paranor] Linkshell Recruiting on Palamecia!

/snicker

Packed full of peanuts!!

[Aeni]

Re: [Paranor] Linkshell Recruiting on Palamecia!

Anyway, I'm not part of this LS I just found this forum again through google and browsed around and found this thread. I just thought your comment was silly and completely unnecessary.

/snicker

[TheGrandMom]

Re: [Paranor] Linkshell Recruiting on Palamecia!

I've been in several serious endgame shells and being on vent/teamspeak is not necessary to do an event. Does it help? Yes, it is faster and easier to relay instructions through voice than it is through typing. Can it make a difference? Yes, you will be more efficient. But in the end player skill is a much bigger factor than having a voice chat program. In the shells I was in, you'd find the greedier ass kissing people on voice chat. They'd be sucking up to leadership, grabbing spots in exp parties cause they'd hear about it first in voice chat, volunteering for farming/helping out first to earn brownie points, etc.... and all of this would lead to them getting dibs on drops usually. I was leadership in most of my shells so I speak from experience. On average we'd have 15ish people on vent and at least another 10 typing. The biggest issue that I found was relaying instructions before an event, you'd talk about them on vent but forget to type them out to everyone else. Usually members had done whatever we were doing before and had an idea of what to do, but in FFXIV all this shit is new and everyone is learning.

I predict that the Teamspeak requirement will be optional eventually. If the PS3 version is ever released, what are they going to do if they want to join? Are you going to limit your application pool to PC ONRY? I like using vent but I don't like being told that I HAVE to.

[Freelancer]

Re: [Paranor] Linkshell Recruiting on Palamecia!

How did you get lost at the mandatory team speak requirement? They specifically said you don't need to have a mic, just be able to listen in on everyone else. Which is pretty much essential for any guild serious about accomplishing more difficult tasks and goals. I don't think it is too much to ask for you to download a FREE software program to listen to important conversations that take part in their guild.

Anyway, I'm not part of this LS I just found this forum again through google and browsed around and found this thread. I just thought your comment was silly and completely unnecessary.

Convenient but not essential, many of FFXI's major shells had no need for voice chat in events, and lets face it other than the new 3 or 5 NMs we got, there's nothing serious enough to warrant micro management through voice chat.

[Swoozie]

Re: [Paranor] Linkshell Recruiting on Palamecia!

Too organized, and lost me at the mandatory team speak part,I'm not sure why but these kind of shells remind me of no-lifer HNMLSes from FFXI.

Anyhow, I'm not here to bash anybody, GL on finding members.

How did you get lost at the mandatory team speak requirement? They specifically said you don't need to have a mic, just be able to listen in on everyone else. Which is pretty much essential for any guild serious about accomplishing more difficult tasks and goals. I don't think it is too much to ask for you to download a FREE software program to listen to important conversations that take part in their guild.

Anyway, I'm not part of this LS I just found this forum again through google and browsed around and found this thread. I just thought your comment was silly and completely unnecessary.