Guide: Building a PC to play FFXIV

[Freelancer]

Re: Guide: Building a PC to play FFXIV

In general the GTX460 is vastly superior to the 5770 and costs a mere 50$ more, but its a personal choice.

An OCed system will probably out live you if you take care of it and OCing the GPU and ignoring the CPU only creates a bottleneck in the rig, do both or do none, exeption being a high end CPU like the i7 and mid range card, but who would get an i7 with a 9800GT anyhow.

but usually a tiny O.C like going 2.6 to 3.3 is enough to overcome the bottleneck (i7 920 @2.66 bottle necked GTX480 but getting it to 3.4 solved it completely).

[Malacite]

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The GTX 460 is the recommended card by SE it's far from "crap"

[wrongfeifong]

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finally i have decide to pull that life saving cash from my can of campbell to buy a new system. But i am at a crossroad here.

Seem to me, GTX 460 is crap in FFXIV. So i am thinking just pull a 5770 out of my hat and OC it. But anyone know how long does OC GPU last ? It is 100 bucks which is cheap, i can live with it when it blew up in 2 years.

I never OC anything, i want to leave CPU as stock, what should i prepare for OC GPU or OC 5770 ?

[Cyprius]

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I should have said $50.

But still.

Here... Canada Computers is really good.

http://www.canadacomputers.com/produ...item_id=021875 <--- CoolerMaster

http://www.canadacomputers.com/produ...item_id=016235 <--- OCZ

[Malacite]

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Do tell? I've been searching for one on newegg.ca with no luck.

Also how do I even go about replacing my old PSU without screwing up my PC?


The GTX 460 requires 450~500W power source AND 2 6-pin connectors for the PCI-E.


Okay so I"ve found these two... ugh yet more god damn money, christ...


http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...-044-_-Product


http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...-005-_-Product



Still cheaper than building a new PC but fuck...

[Cyprius]

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You can get a good 500W PSU for $40 or so.

[Malacite]

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Well shit. I may have an unexpected problem...


I won't know for sure until I open up my PC, but I don't think I have a power supply capable of running the GTX 460... as I said I got my PC just over 2 years ago, and far as I know most HP PCs (at least pre-I7) run 200~250 watt supplies...


Ugh this is starting to get WAY too costly... I didn't mind shelving out the $250 for the card as it's a long-term investment, but a new power supply too? Might have to go with a lesser card...

[Chromemage]

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Is anyone in beta running on a machine equipped with Nvidia's GeForce GTX 460?

I decided to go with dual 1GB GTX 460's because it's suppose to be the best mid-range, high performance GPU available. It was also advertised as being the "fix" for the disastrous underachieving GTX 480, 470, and 465.

Anyone with first hand experience?

[Chromemage]

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Well I ran the benchmark on my laptop, mostly for laughs but I wanted to see if I'd be able to dual box from the start.

She did her best, but it wasn't meant to be.

Score: 220
147449 ms

[Malacite]

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Holy shit man....


Well, I'm looking at it this way. If FFXI was any indication, I'll be enjoying the hell out of XIV for years, and ditto Star Craft 2 so the GTX 460 will be plenty for my current PC. Then in another year or so (by which point I hope to hell I'll be working again and have saved up some cash) new GPU's will be out, and I can get a new rig that will blow XIV and SC2 out of the water on max settings for less than the cost of a current top of the line machine.

All I really want is a solid frame rate with good graphics. Doesn't have to be super perfect (yet) but I do want to take advantage of my 48" HDTV.

[Freelancer]

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Well this is interesting

I set the "buffer" (which pretty much is like pixel-lisation) to quarter and the game looked like it was off an NES system then I cranked it to double and the game looked amazing but it totally raped my GTX470 and I'm down to 8-9 frames instead of 30 when the buffer is at window size. (1280x980) but I did have sampling x8 and shadows at highest.

I guess once the SLI kicks in it'll be ok to go double but I'm not sure. maybe with a GTX480 I'll get 15 frames or something hmmm.... well its still pretty without going double buffer.

Though I took some pics and compared them and the differance on a picture is barely noticeable but in game you can tell that it looks sharper.

But damn... guess I still can't max out the beta, and now I really want to see retail graphics options.

[Kafeen]

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I was trying to decide between the GTX 460 and the HD 5850 for ages. I've seem some people mention a $100 price difference between them in the US, but here 1 GB 460 and the 5850 only had a £20 difference.

The 460 still had other advantages like physx and cuda so it was still a hard choice but I eventually settled on the 5850. The 460 being listed in the recommended specs also made me think SE could focus more on optimising for the Nvidia cards in the future.

The 460 usually sits somewhere between the 5830 and the 5850 in terms of performance and I got a decent deal on a card, £211 for the 5850 with 3 games, a 460 would have been about £180.

Hopefully I should have all my components on Friday, they're actually due to arrive today but I'm not going to be in (damn work) so I'm going to try and reschedule for Friday and take the day off.

[Malacite]

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That settles it then, with the GTX 460 I should be golden.

[Freelancer]

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Processor: 7.5
Memory: 7.6
Graphics: 7.9
Gaming Graphics: 7.9
Primary Hard Disk: 5.9
Overall: 5.9

WD green HD ruined my score lolz

[Durahansolo]

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I figured I ought to post this...

Here is my PC's over all ratings;


Processor: 5.9
Memory: 5.7
Graphics: 5.6
Gaming Graphics: 5.4
Primary Hard Disk: 5.9

Which gives my PC a Base Score of 5.4


What are the scores for you ppl who are in the Beta?

Laptop:

Processor: 6.1
Memory: 6.1
Graphics: 6.7
Gaming Graphics 6.7
Primary Hard Disk: 5.4

Overall: 5.4

My overall was totally screwed...

Main PC:

Processor: 5.9
Memory: 5.9
Graphics: 5.9
Gaming Graphics: 5.9
Primary Hard Disk: 5.9
Overall: 5.9

The PC was totally screwed too. I think Window's Ratings are more broken than SE's benchmark.

As soon as I get done downloading torrents, I'm going to download the beta on my main pc to see how it runs. BTW Main PC is on Vista 64 and the Laptop is on 7 64.