Guide: Building a PC to play FFXIV

[Absentia]

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Curious, what would be the Nvidia equivalent to a 4870?

[WishMaster3K]

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Well damn, a 5800 series is what's going to be needed for this game? What about the 5830? I love the 5870, but I don't want people to break the bank...

[Aeni]

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Lighter? Could you link me to that please? Also, take into account the load of people and the shit they'll be doing on the screen. Open gave you a taste but release is going to be absolutely ridiculous, if the servers can handle it. I'd rather ere on the side of caution, and experience because this isn't by far my first MMO/game, and get a decent card instead of finally getting in the game after all the shit I'm going to have trying to d/l the any updates and put up with the log in server being spammed and probably sitting in a queue only to find that my card can't handle the load unless I play it in "OMG THIS LOOKS TERRIBLE" mode or even worse "OMG I CAN'T PLAY THE GAME LIKE THIS" mode. (Because, please note, in my previous post I said that I want to play it on max. So people don't jump on my ass because you don't. I played 6+ years of FFXI so I want all the bells and whistles to thrill me.)

I'm sorry, but I agree with TGM and she is right on the money with this one and OMG the rest of you, have you forgotten about FFXI Beta > Retail? (Unless you weren't there for that, then you're excused)

Beta fine > Retail my video card was not even good enough to load the damn character creation screen. I had to dump my 7500 for a 9600 PRO (Radeons) at that time. No, I'm never making that same mistake twice and upgraded to my current card. And 5770 is old technology based on the older 4770 (Or was it the 4850?) with the same 128-bit memory. That's a 3 year old technology ... not good enough.

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And unlike you, some of us are on budgets when we are building, the help that I've recommended kept within a budget, everyone here has gone overbudget for the peeps needing help.

If you were concerned about the welfare of their budget, then you would've recommended a 4870 instead. If you don't care about playing DX11 games (all indications seem to support the idea that NO developer is going to put out a major DX11 based title in the next 2-3 years anyway) then the 4870 is better than the 5770. 256 bit memory, $99 and does better than a 5830 in some tests.

[Absentia]

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Lighter? Could you link me to that please? Also, take into account the load of people and the shit they'll be doing on the screen. Open gave you a taste but release is going to be absolutely ridiculous, if the servers can handle it. I'd rather ere on the side of caution, and experience because this isn't by far my first MMO/game, and get a decent card instead of finally getting in the game after all the shit I'm going to have trying to d/l the any updates and put up with the log in server being spammed and probably sitting in a queue only to find that my card can't handle the load unless I play it in "OMG THIS LOOKS TERRIBLE" mode or even worse "OMG I CAN'T PLAY THE GAME LIKE THIS" mode. (Because, please note, in my previous post I said that I want to play it on max. So people don't jump on my ass because you don't. I played 6+ years of FFXI so I want all the bells and whistles to thrill me.)

I can't find where I read it, but apparently the retail client will be 'lighter', which I assume would mean run more efficient, which should also effect inventory speeds. I believe whoever said this was at the show mayhaps, or at least translated what was said.

[DakAttack]

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I want all the bells and whistles, too. I'm not going to have any issues with not having them in any single game for a long time. Fuck yea.

[TheGrandMom]

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I believe SE stated that the retail version would be 'lighter' than the beta, do to all the beta processes. So you may want to hold off until you try retail before you go spending more money :3

Lighter? Could you link me to that please? Also, take into account the load of people and the shit they'll be doing on the screen. Open gave you a taste but release is going to be absolutely ridiculous, if the servers can handle it. I'd rather ere on the side of caution, and experience because this isn't by far my first MMO/game, and get a decent card instead of finally getting in the game after all the shit I'm going to have trying to d/l the any updates and put up with the log in server being spammed and probably sitting in a queue only to find that my card can't handle the load unless I play it in "OMG THIS LOOKS TERRIBLE" mode or even worse "OMG I CAN'T PLAY THE GAME LIKE THIS" mode. (Because, please note, in my previous post I said that I want to play it on max. So people don't jump on my ass because you don't. I played 6+ years of FFXI so I want all the bells and whistles to thrill me.)

[Absentia]

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I do know my shit, I just don't need to wave it around in people's faces. I built my pc and I have a 5770. I play the beta and everything is at max. I have some slight issues with performance but nothing that makes me lose sleep at night. But, I know its a whole new ball of wax once the game goes retail so I'm not fooling myself. If I still want to run the game like I am now during retail, its not going to be as smooth and stress free as I want it. So instead of turning down settings and not enjoying the game the way I want to, I'll be getting a new gpu.

I believe SE stated that the retail version would be 'lighter' than the beta, do to all the beta processes. So you may want to hold off until you try retail before you go spending more money :3

[abknight]

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You recommended a case that would cause overheating and a hard drive nearly half as fast and more expensive than other well-known models. Just throwing that out there, bro. gg.

[Melkiah]

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I bet you your next video card that the graphics are *not* going to change, and if they do, only for the better. like the fucking cursor won't be so damn lagged. That's about it bro. gg

I can't wait to get your 5850

or 5870 :p

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I do know my shit, I just don't need to wave it around in people's faces. I built my pc and I have a 5770. I play the beta and everything is at max. I have some slight issues with performance but nothing that makes me lose sleep at night. But, I know its a whole new ball of wax once the game goes retail so I'm not fooling myself. If I still want to run the game like I am now during retail, its not going to be as smooth and stress free as I want it. So instead of turning down settings and not enjoying the game the way I want to, I'll be getting a new gpu.

And unlike you, some of us are on budgets when we are building, the help that I've recommended kept within a budget, everyone here has gone overbudget for the peeps needing help.

That *IS* a big part of the build, regardless if you like it or not.

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I do know my shit, I just don't need to wave it around in people's faces. I built my pc and I have a 5770. I play the beta and everything is at max. I have some slight issues with performance but nothing that makes me lose sleep at night. But, I know its a whole new ball of wax once the game goes retail so I'm not fooling myself. If I still want to run the game like I am now during retail, its not going to be as smooth and stress free as I want it. So instead of turning down settings and not enjoying the game the way I want to, I'll be getting a new gpu.

Btw, I believe the word I'm looking for is "Optimization". They aren't going to get any more intense.. If anything, they will make it a lot less bulky, and help it run faster and look just as good on slower cards.

It's the same concept as Crysis --> Crysis Wars.

[TheGrandMom]

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I do know my shit, I just don't need to wave it around in people's faces. I built my pc and I have a 5770. I play the beta and everything is at max. I have some slight issues with performance but nothing that makes me lose sleep at night. But, I know its a whole new ball of wax once the game goes retail so I'm not fooling myself. If I still want to run the game like I am now during retail, its not going to be as smooth and stress free as I want it. So instead of turning down settings and not enjoying the game the way I want to, I'll be getting a new gpu.

[Melkiah]

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The build I built listed a few pages back is up and running great with beta on.

Have settings all high at 1920x1080 with buffering at resolution and 2xAA running with no slowdown even in high population areas.
Full shadows and details, draw distance set pretty far out. To all the haters out there on green hard drives and 5770's, seriously.. know your shit before you talk :p


Have fun building

[abknight]

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Mostly looks fine, not sure about the mobo. If you're going to crossfire in the future I'd say spend the extra $20-30 on a board that fully supports dual x16. I don't have time to mill through everything on newegg right now, just happened across Newegg.com - MSI 790FX-GD70 AM3 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard . Someone else should search. Are you planning on using the stock heatsink that comes with the CPU? I don't know how it will handle the heat. If you are using it, you'll need to buy some thermal paste for 5 bucks.

[KeechwaTembo]

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Just checked that MB out, and it looks great. Think I might be done^^

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K, so here's the, for now at least, final build:

Case: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811517007

Graphics: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814127490

CPU: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819103808

Memory: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231277

HDD: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822152181

DVD Burner: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16827135204

PSU: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817139005

And MB: Newegg.com - ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AM3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard

Mind giving the list a once over guys? Just to make sure everything's good quality, and more importantly, compatible with each other. Thanks.

[WishMaster3K]

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And regarding the MB, I can't find a good one with 16/8 for a similar price. My total atm is $765.92, and the budget's supposed to be $700>.>

Define "good". What price were you looking at, btw?

This is the motherboard I have, for example, so I'm not sure what comparative mobos you saw.

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Oh nvm, I see that in post #337

[KeechwaTembo]

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Alright, I decided on a PSU(read some really good things about corsair): Newegg.com - CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply

And regarding the MB, I can't find a good one with 16/8 for a similar price. My total atm is $765.92, and the budget's supposed to be $700>.>

With shipping, make that $790.17, and if I count the MIRs, subtract like $70 from the total, so about $720.17. Still over, so I'm not sure if I can slap an extra $40 or so to upgrade to a 16/8.

Other than that though, pretty much decided on everything but MB. If you can suggest a reliable MB with 16/8 if possible for even near $100, that would be great.