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  • Aeni
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    From my experience with NM mobs, leve mobs, over-level mobs (yes, I sometimes get bored and want to see how long before I die to something 10+) and multiple mobs (all melee, mixed or all casters) the core stat priority I've seen while soloing has been:

    STR = VIT > MND > DEX > ??????

    Now, end-game might be different, which is where DEX can come back into play, depending on many extenuating circumstances (i.e., do you have a dedicated healer in group or is this where everyone heals when they can and everyone except the "tank" and "off tank" are hybrid dps) This makes VIT even more important, more important than the other stats. STR adds to enmity (through DMG) and GLA/PLD damage is not that great in the first place so that's why you need to make up some of that deficit instead of just ignoring it completely.

    VIT > STR > DEX (if VIT is capped, take pts from VIT and put here) > MND > ????

    If you're looking for an FFXI Pally type of style, you may even drop DEX and STR lower and put MND higher, but I need to see just how much healing you get from MND. There is one weaponskill which GLA has (that PLD has access to) that does AOE dmg and AOE mini-taunt all in one which benefits from both STR and MND. That's why these stats tend to be higher priority, again, dependant on playstyle and your needs.

    Edit: Typo
    Last edited by Aeni; 03-19-2012, 02:39 PM.

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  • Raydeus
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    Yeah, there are enfeeb effects added to only 2 spells (Blizzard - Heavy and Blizzara - Bind) but they are pretty meh for the most part. Only kinda sort of relatively useful effect is from Blizzara in case you are getting hit and want to run away you can aoe bind the mobs, but it is soooo not worth spending points on it.

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  • Mezlo
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    THM's have enfeebling effects coupled with other spells. ie Blizzara adds heavy effect, or something like that. I think maybe a Stone spell adds slow. So there arent enfeebling spells, but enfeebling affects that can proc based upon casting an elemental spell.

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  • Malacite
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    OK wtf, I thought THM had more enfeebling magic before, but now it's JUST sleep? Unless it affects the other spells that have a chance of inflicting an added effect like Freeze.

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  • Raydeus
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    Sadly I think so too. I just wish PIE added way more MP like it used to, Because 1MP per point is a joke. >_<

    So unless anything changes on 1.21a I'll just cap INT and set the remaining points to MND.




    PS > And if I still have points after capping both at lvl 50 (can you actually cap both?) I'd probably spend them on VIT just for the lulz. XD

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  • Mezlo
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    for THM:

    INT > MND > PIE

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  • Raydeus
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    What other enf spells? <_<;

    And magic acc would probably work better, or at the very least the same. I'm lvl 41 right now so I don't even have sleep yet anyway.

    ---------- Post added at 11:58 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:54 AM ----------

    PS > Unless PIE really makes Sleep way more powerful somehow, then I'd consider splitting the remaining points between MND and PIE. <_<;

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  • Malacite
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    Why would you not want PIE on THM? You need it for sleep & your other enfeebling spells.

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  • Raydeus
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    Originally posted by Malacite View Post
    THM needs INT & PIE, and to a lesser degree MND however gear can probably make up for magic acc.
    By the way, I forgot to ask about this because I was too busy poking on you. But, I don't think spending points on PIE as a THM works anymore. They give you 1 MP (yes 1) per upgrade, which is lolable at best.

    I just focus on INT and then the rest on MND (and VIT at lower levels.)



    VIT made a nice difference at lower levels because MP and M.Acc weren't an issue, survival for larger chaining was. Since I didn't have CNJ dmg mitigation tools at the time. Although there's always the possibility of VIT being just placebo. Either way, once I reset my points I'll just switch those points completely over to MND unless they fix PIE.

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  • Malacite
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    Originally posted by Etra View Post
    VIT is terrible. It only adds about 1.4HP per point and it's adjustment to defense isn't that great, either. DEX isn't that great, because of the full party buff capping you out on accuracy. DEX for block rate with GLD was always kinda crap, but haven't heard how it translates with Paladin yet.

    STR and MND will increase your damage, allowing you to hold hate better (one of the many issues with Paladin right now.) Not to mention, your Cures will be a tad better with the added MND.
    Every point of HP counts, and it's not just def it directly reduces damage taken. Now, I'm unsure of the exact impact it has but still - I'll take every scrap I can get. Unlike FFXI, GLA & PLD have quite a lot of good hate tools as it is, so I'm not terribly worried about needing to deal damage.

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  • Takelli
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    Ewwwwww... One time use Stat Reset...

    I hope they change it later on... I can't stand having "If you make a mistake... Haha your screwed now!"

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  • Raydeus
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    Now to wait for 1.21a, but not like I actually know how I would better distribute my points anyway. <_<;

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  • Etra
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    Originally posted by Raydeus View Post
    I'm still wondering what the mew is that Hymn tablet I got, the description is pretty much saying that is you sing the song in the table you can reset your point bonuses.

    But of course I've yet to find a way to use it, or if it's even supposed t work like that.
    The Keeper's Hymn?

    Bam.
    /Emeril noises

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  • Raydeus
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    I'm still wondering what the mew is that Hymn tablet I got, the description is pretty much saying that is you sing the song in the table you can reset your point bonuses.

    But of course I've yet to find a way to use it, or if it's even supposed t work like that.

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  • Etra
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    Originally posted by Malacite View Post
    I'm honestly not seeing the need for STR on GLA, unless they put out an offensive job later on.

    VIT is #1 uncontested, as it's more HP & less damage taken but DEX affects your accuracy & block rate (is MRD the only job that can parry? or is parrying exclusive to 2 handed weapons or what? I don't think I've ever parried with my sword) so naturally, DEX > STR. Your job is to tank, not to dish out the pain. If it was JUST accuracy I wouldn't bother, but the combination of hit rate & block rate trumps a bit of extra damage IMO.
    VIT is terrible. It only adds about 1.4HP per point and it's adjustment to defense isn't that great, either. DEX isn't that great, because of the full party buff capping you out on accuracy. DEX for block rate with GLD was always kinda crap, but haven't heard how it translates with Paladin yet.

    STR and MND will increase your damage, allowing you to hold hate better (one of the many issues with Paladin right now.) Not to mention, your Cures will be a tad better with the added MND.

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