How to kill Fenrir?

[Kabuki]

As I get closer to retrieving all the whispers, I need help setting up a party to fight Fenrir. And any tips for me as a bard?

[astraycat]

My party setup was WHM/BLM/BLM/THF/PLD/BRD. Just do what you bards do It's not so different from 60 avatar fights, except that it would be like fighting them at level 60.

When Fenrir hits near 50% soulvoice and put up dark carol, it should help lower the damage his 2 hour does by a bit, and if you survive its pretty much smooth sailing from there.

Have the mages keep blink/stoneskin up; Fenrir hits for 400-500+ a hit, so it can save your life. We had ballad for the mages(I don't remember what the BRD did for the melee) and (as mentioned) carol at 50%. We didn't bother throwing prot/shell up again after he used dispelga, but we did erase the PLD(2x each time) when he was hit by the accuracy/evasion debuff.

Make sure to have someone other than the WHM cure status ailments if you have a PLD tank, they probably wont have between cures to paralyna etc. After Fenrir 2hrs the WHM should Benediction and the PLD should Invincible(when we didnt the PLD didn't lose aggro after bene, but its nice to do it all the same so the BLMs can nuke a bit more).

And that's basically all I remember from when I did it

[Miriamel]

We had two NIN tanks alternate hate, which was good in a way, but hate was *very* loose, and I would get hate from even casting elegy (which stuck amazingly well with +60ish CHR).

I gave the nins double-mambo and the mages double-ballad, then switched to dragonfoe mambo on tanks, dark carol on all and ballad II on mages once his 2h approached.

We survived the 2h, barely, but we did, and after that you basically just have to watch his triple attack move and the dispels if you have nin tank (haste them immediately again).

I used soul voice right after his two-hour by the way, mainly to give the mages 6MP/tick since we were running a little low.

[Manatra]

My setup was DRG/NIN, MNK/NIN, BLM, BLM, WHM, BRD.

We went in, buffed, started off Soul Voice with Dark Carol + Mambo (we had the sleeping potions but forgot the opo opo necklaces.. lol) anyway, we did have icarus wings, used them to create a light skillchain and had the BLMs burst with Firaga III, basically went all out making LIght skillchains when we had TP, at 50%ish HP when Fenrir used Howling Moon, I Benedicted the whole party and the MNK used Hundred Fists, as well, Double Mambo was cast. Towards the end the BLMs used Manafont as well.

The fight was rushed and sloppy but we somehow won easily. From my experience Fenrir fight is luck and offense, you can go in with the best setup in the world and still die horribly (not I'm not counting BST PTs or SMN PTs vs. Fenrir... they're different :p ). For example, the first time my PT lost to Fenrir it was at 10% HP and we had sleeping potions etc etc. but the DRG missed the first wheeling thrust. As well, if Fenrir decides to give out a 2x Eclipse bite you can pretty much say good bye to the tank if it's not a MNK. But basically outside of luck, I've found you need to structure your PT offensively to win effectively. You aren't going to win the fight by being defensive, go all out.

[Kabuki]

Great, this sounds really really hard. So far I onl need ifrit's whisper and from the looks of things, I dont think anyone will help me kill Fenrir. Most of my friends and LS are not beyond 70 yet..

[Tirrock]

killed Fenrir yesterday while Valor went to Dynamis-HumanSacrifice [Xarcabard]. Kind of made me glad I didn't have access. I spent my time gathering people for a fenrir fight, knowing that this time I wouldn't be able to get people from Valor.

I, honestly, only recruited one person. Cloudie got 4 others. (Technically, he got 5 others, but one PLD kept changing his mind if he was going or not, so we got another.)

The group was
Ushikawa 75WAR/37NIN
Snowwolf 75PLD/37WAR
Melagant 75RDM/37WHM
Kenzsmasters 75MNK/37WAR
Cloudie 75BLM/37WHM
Jenica 70WHM/35SMN

We did 3 attempts (yes, 3 ; before winning. First battle we had 2 deaths, both Ushikawa. Fenrir destroyed blink, then critical hit a few times and used moonlit charge to kill her, before getting blink back up. Second battle was a full wipe. I did not benediction in time to save Ushikawa [0.3~ second], so we used Snowwolf as the main tank. He tanked about 25% of the fight, but I ran out of MP and we died.

Caelestis came out and raised me so I could raise the rest of them, as well as letting me borrow her cloak [Vermillion Cloak]. Then she stayed while we fought fenrir a 3rd time. (Thank you for all your help.) We tried Snowwolf as main tank... We had no items or 2 hours when we did that one. Howling Moon killed Snowwolf and Fenrir charged straight at me.

After getting me back up so I could raise our dead corpses (thank you again Cael), Cloudie, Melagant, and myself warped back to Jeuno and got supplies. Our 2 hours were up again too. We fought him for the last time we were going to fight him. Ushikawa died to Howling Moon because she got hit right before the 2 hour. I benedictioned as soon as I could (I stood next to melees and had 4 benediction macros that I hit about 5 times when he used howling moon) and Snowwolf used invincible. I raise IIIed Ushikawa (she was barely into 75) and we fought fenrir with PLD as the tank for the last half of the battle. It was a lot harder on my MP, but we managed to do it. I used a vile elixer +1 the last second because I had no MP, then Cloudie's Thunderaga III killed fenrir. [See link in signature.]


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That was a copy of what I wrote on my linkshell's forum (slight modifications made, all in []'s). That should give you some insight on how the fight went.

On a side note: I don't know about keeping blink/stoneskin up. Stoneskin will only help on the 2 hour...otherwise he does 450~ a hit to mages, stoneskin won't really save you. Plus the cast/recast time on stoneskin is horrible. Blink might be good though. He spammed Lunar Roar (dispelga) on my fights, so it seemed pointless to even try to keep either up.

I believe I fought him at about 40% moon, going closer to new. My howling moon (fenrir 2 hour) seems to have no effect whatsoever by moon phase (or level for that matter, it's been doing 900-1000 for as long as I can remember). However, my Lunar Roar is shorter AoE and only dispells two buffs at a time, not everything but food. His howling moon took us all down to red HP, so I'm curious...has it ever full wiped a party at 100% moon with howling moon? Or is the moon phase effecting his two hour a rumor?

[imac2much]

Just fought him this weekend with a weird setup. Dangerous but fun, and although we died twice, it was actually pretty easy.

PT Setup:
Rugal 74 PLD/NIN
Poweryoga 74 RNG/NIN
Rebus 70 THF/NIN
Salt 65ish WHM/BLM
Ravizel 74 or 75 SMN/WHM
Silverrose 75 BRD/WHM

I was main tank, but I was advised to keep hate loose so that the RNG and SMN's Leviathan could tank temporarily whenever I had to recast utsusemi. THF was supposed to SATA on me whenever RNG got hate, but we threw that idea out of the window when I realized his special move kept knocking me back, so I put my back against a wall.

Surprisingly I could get aggro whenever I wanted... I could keep hate with basic heals and Flashes, using JA or WS whenever I wanted aggro. All magic users used Yag Drinks, and hate was passed between RNG, PLD, and Levi.

We died first time because BRD forgot to carol before Fenrir's 2hr :p Also, no one told me I had to put my back against a wall so it got a bit messy.

Well we got r2's then tried again, and it was a ton easier. 2hr+dark carol reduced his 2hr (although I still got hit for 950 or so, still alive). Salt died but ate a R1 while I 2hr'ed and ate 4 or 5 hi potions to get some HP back and recast utsusemi. After that it was cheese and it died pretty soon.

We didn't bother recasting buffs after any dispelga, WHM focused on healing and SMN focused on healing + paralyna I think, while Spinning Driving every minute.

I don't think this PT setup would work with a BLM, since he'd get too much hate, but I think PLD/NIN is a great main tank if the main DDs are SMN :p

[Deadsoulja]

ive killed him 3 times.... setups were:
pld/nin 75
blm/whm 75
blm/whm75
smn/whm 75
rdm/blm 69
whm/blm 75

since the pld was /nin he couldnt hold hate well so the blms stunned and casted very little, after the 2 hour the whm pld and blms all 2 hourd and by the time manafont was up he was dead (along with me) covering 1 blm will be necessary.

pld/war 75
blm/whm 75
blm/whm 75
blm/whm 75
blm/whm 75
whm/blm 75

with the sheer power in that party, we just slowly nuked until the whm was almost out of mana, at that time all of the blms used manafont, and the pld invincibled, lets just say fenrir was dead before our 2 hours were through also spam stun around 50% health, i stunned his 2 hour on this run

pld/war 75
blm/whm 75
blm/whm 75
blm/whm 75
whm/blm 75
smn/whm 63

same basic idea as the previous run, except we waited a little longer before 2 hour, the smn was basically healing the tank also, and this proved successful also.

[LionhartPLD]

Doesn't Fenrir resist black magic a lot? I heard BLM isn't very useful for the fight.
we had

WHM/SMN
WHM/SMN
NIN/WAR
RDM/NIN
BRD/WHM
PLD/WAR :D (MELEE!!)

the NIN and RDM bounced hate and blink tanked. I just meleed until I used invinc cause he aggroed a mage. Lasted 30 secs then died shortly after invinc wore off. NIN is definately the better tank for this but if I had used all my tank gear instead of melee stuff I probably would have done better

[Crow]

BLM rocks on Fenrir. We did

PLD/WAR
WHM
BLM
BLM
BLM
BLM

too ^^. Works amazingly O_O... Although I was very happy for my 1000+ MP and my -enmity on AF for this fight >>;

[July]

i have a question, because carbuncle is Light element does this mean his 2hr astral flow ability will do the most damage or is his stuff permantly gimped because he's the first avatar?

[Tirrock]

Carbuncle is gimpy. He's great for farming a bunch of weak stuff, and acting like a nightlight, but his two hour blows, even against dark type monsters.

I don't think BLMs do too bad, but melees aren't nearly worthless like they are on other avatar primes.

[Seref]

Hehe when i fought Fenrir it was pretty easy with this set up:
SMN
SMN
SMN
PLD/NIN
RDM
BRD
The Summoners used leviathan to *tank* and they also used their level 70 moves. The PLD's only purpose was to grab hate after Fenrir 2hours so that the summoners can resummon levi. Me and the Bard just kept up MP regen.