Noob SCH and the Dooms

[ItazuraNhomango]

Re: Noob SCH and the Dooms

It'd be absolutely stupid to use SCH as a healer before Lv.17/18--as a sole healer in a party, anyway. Nothing wrong with 2~3 cure sources per party in Valkurm Dunes, though, or even after. WHM can do the Cure II's while the SCH pump out Cure I's, and it'd actually work out.

There really isn't anything wrong with a co-healer SCH in the Dunes if you can avoid dumb leaders and partner up on cures with a WHM, RDM, DNC, or even another SCH. Think I usually end up with DNC or WHM back then. Really, it's no different than RDM before Cure II (Lv.14)--if you have cure and a reasonable MP pool, you can be one of the co-healers. It's as simple as that.

Of course, SCH shouldn't be 'main' healer until Lv.40+. Then again, at Lv.40, WHM gets Haste, so it's still good to partner with a WHM--the SCH handles the bulk of the curing load, while the WHM can Haste the entire front line.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: Noob SCH and the Dooms

Amazed this necro hasn't been locked yet.

SCH doesn't even learn acceptable Curative magic until Cure II at 17 and Regen at 18, taking on main heal even with some /DNC users is dicey against VT/IT mobs at Dunes level. SCH is on shaky ground until Cure III at 30 and Regen II at 37. After 40 is when their lives as healers really begin because they'll have Accession at their disposal and that can only grow more powerful as they gain more stratagem charges.

I wouldn't even consider playing SCH as a healer until you got out Qufim at minimum and certainly not without support. As I said before, I duoed my way to 25 before I dabbled in partying.

You can solo/duo:

N. Gustaberg > N. Gustaberg (S) > Maze of Shakarami > Korraloka Tunnel/Qufim > Grauberg/Attowah Chasm.

The only real stopgap in the flow is soloing after Korraloka and Quifm, you might wish to party 27-31 since there are no worms with passable EXP unless you've been sitting on an Anniversary Band. After that, though, back to soloing all the way to 37.

[Lunaryn]

Re: Noob SCH and the Dooms

SCH is kind of painful to get through the early levels on, the Cure II at 17 issue is a reason I wouldn't recommend taking SCH to the dunes at all. Nuking isn't fully a solution since without MAB from /BLM (@20) you'll also have damage problems. Honestly, every time I've leveled SCH I've soloed it by nuking worms (SCH/WHM, Banish is nuke of choice until around 20 anyway). Though if you can put together a duo/trio/quartet of nukers/magic-DoTers, this can be very effective on high-level worms (Icemage, Pteryx, Stac and I did this for a bit in Maze of Shakrami when the former three were leveling SCH; I ended up on MNK/WHM for reasons very circumstantially specific, but it at least let me Dia and Banish, and we were still getting 200 xp/kill with 4 members).

If you can get a group together for worms, you can go after stuff like Maze Makers way earlier than otherwise possible (trick is to rest outside of casting range while cycling responsibility for keeping a DoT on the worm). For the solo option, though, WotG camps create a lot of good options for the teens. The trickiest part in my experience is right in the mid-teens (14-16) where the only good worm camp I can find is King Ranperre's Tomb; without a PL this place is only usable in the daytime, bats will aggro like crazy at night so it's easier to just log out for about half an hour when the sun goes down.

[Takelli]

Re: Noob SCH and the Dooms

Why not just make your own party and play it out as a blm until you get cure II and Regen?

[Ynot]

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i would leave the pary lol... when i play SCH it is to boost my BLM ... i will be BLM/SCH
i play the way i want... it dose help that 90% of the time i have a static party of real friends
what server are you on, ill help you out my SCH is only 17 or18 i think but i have friends that will help powerlevel or just set up a party that will help you and you can play anyway you want with us... just dont over nuke or you might die lol lol (unless we have the powerleveler) happy hunting

[Satori]

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Sorry to Necro, IT's been ages since I've been guilty of it.
Currently I've been in the dunes as a Scholar. I'd had already had a browse of the topics and expected to be wanting to pull my hair out. Currently I'm at 19 and at the oasis killing crabs with my npc between parties and I'm getting exp just over 100 not the best but it's more productive than sitting at the outpost with my flag up.
The best party I'd had during this experience took me from 14-19 we had a person that tanked decently a dancer a crazy blm that kept going frontline. Curing with Cure I was a bit of a stretch and thats putting it lightly, The arrival of cure II and regen was gladly welcomed. I only managed to nuke a few times when somehow a damselfly became aggressive allthough I didn't see what/who caused it.
But all in all, This run through the dunes hasnt been as bad as it usually is.

[Snowballx]

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I got lucky at the dunes lmao. I lvled sch the day it came out and made it to like lvl 30+ in one day lmao!

[Aylmer]

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I had the same issue and ended up soloing most of the time until 17 and even then with Level Sync I had to watch party mems get massacred.

[Kasandaro]

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I wish I could help, but having had taken whm, rdm and smn through the Dunes and knowing how much fun it was to not have Cure II? I found me a progression of worms (Konstadt > Sandy [S] > Gustaberg [S]) and gave the whole party thing up as a bad habit until the 20s.

[Aksannyi]

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I was never asked to main heal on SCH at the Dunes levels. I think that's because we had a PL for everything. Just when you get invited to a party, ask them, "Am I main healing?" If they say yes, turn them down. Put it in your search comment, too (not that people read them, but you'll at least have that to fall back on when they get mad for saying no. "Well, I had it in my search comment, you shouldn't have even asked me in the first place.")

[Solymir]

Re: Noob SCH and the Dooms

I waited until I was level 17 and had Cure II before venturing out there. Before that I solo'd, which was painful, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't as bad as trying to keep a whole party alive with Cure. I also felt the hurt in the late 20's when I didn't have access to Cure III. Luckily I got a few parties where I was backup cure, and could use elemental/enfeeble spells most of the time instead.

[Ellipses]

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I stumbled my way through a handful of frustrating parties where I could never settle into any kind of defined role and ended up just casting whatever the hell random spells seemed like a good idea at the time. \m/

[Alekia]

Re: Noob SCH and Valkurm

Requesting title change? >.> I thought this was going to be about Cursna (Dooms) but it's about Valkurm.

My bad...I was just trying to be funny/sarcastic with the title in that Valkurm us pure hell.

Anyway...I appreciate the advice given, even if its stuff I already knew. I was just wondering what you guys did in the same situation.

[DakAttack]

Re: Noob SCH and the Dooms

Dooms

Doons

Dunes?

[Malacite]

Re: Noob SCH and the Dooms

Requesting title change? >.> I thought this was going to be about Cursna (Dooms) but it's about Valkurm.