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  • Temagori
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    Yeah I think they just avoided having to program a new weapon type, by making it appear when we use our Stratagems. Lazy bastards. Although I won't lie it looks cool.

    I would have loved to see a ranged slot AF Grimoire though and I don't understand why they didn't, but meh.

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  • Omgwtfbbqkitten
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    What about that Crimson Grimorie?

    A possessed book as a pet.

    OK, maybe not. That thing gets taken out in one or two nukes.

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  • Lmnop
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    Originally posted by Temagori View Post
    I wish that SE was thinking along those lines... Too bad they decided that a staff was the way to go ; ;
    Unfortunately, a book would be... strange. Would it be wielded like a club and have all of its animations? Would you 2-hand it in which case you're creating 7 new sets of animations for a single very hard-to-obtain weapon?

    It would be nifty, but we can't chalk this up as a failure on S-E's part. Just a feasibility thing.

    Besides, this is why SCH AF was a scroll.

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  • Temagori
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    Originally posted by Celeal
    I am thinking of Relic book or Relic encyclopedia for SCH instead of Relic staff
    I wish that SE was thinking along those lines... Too bad they decided that a staff was the way to go ; ;

    And to Lmnop:
    Yeah, but I wasn't going to say that... It is a merited song. Too bad the better choice is to get the JA instead of that song lol.
    Last edited by Temagori; 05-09-2008, 10:31 AM.

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  • Celeal
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    I am thinking of Relic book or Relic encyclopedia for SCH instead of Relic staff

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  • Lmnop
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    Isn't it a merited song only? No one actually uses their merits on Bard.

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  • Temagori
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    To clarify I meant a spell not a song. I know it's the same thing, I mean Paeon is the BRD version of Regen, but we aren't argueing that point. I meant The physical spell being added to the spell list for a mage. In essence another job other than BRD getting it. I won't lie I forgot about that particular song, but nonetheless I stick by what I said.

    I would like to / it would be nice if they added Pax to the list of spells a WHM, SCH, or ??? got. Hell to be quirky it would be a nifty spell for a PLD. The ability to lower the person they choose's enmity. And let's face it most BRD's don't get to utilize that song as much as another job might get to utilize it.

    BRD gets to use it in end game events and very rarely in exp. And that's if they feel it is worth getting. I haven't actually asked any of the HL BRD I know, but I have not seen it used much myself even in HL events.

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  • Feenicks
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    Originally posted by Temagori View Post
    I meant literally the spell Pax not just a song that gives the effect of it.
    I hope I don't seem like I'm picking on you, but what's the difference? If they renamed the song to be called Adventurer's Pax would it be different?

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  • Temagori
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    lol Let's do eet~!

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  • Lmnop
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    Originally posted by Feenicks View Post
    The only way I would want to see Regain implemented would be if it had the volatile enmity of a DS+Curaga IV.
    Sch/nin tank. I'm already excited!

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  • Temagori
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    I meant literally the spell Pax not just a song that gives the effect of it. I mean giving it to a WHM on the weapon much the way the Relic WS show on it.

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  • Feenicks
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    Not to rain on your parade but Pax already exists. It's called Adventurer's Dirge.

    Ultima and Meteor, whilst potentially being amazingly powerful, have a drawback in that large amounts of damage bring with them large amounts of hate, and so must be used sparingly. Regain would be a buff which induces only minimal hate from the monster, and considering the benefit of Regain there's no balance at all. The only way I would want to see Regain implemented would be if it had the volatile enmity of a DS+Curaga IV.

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  • Temagori
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    lol Well who says that RDM has to get it? SE could throw us a curve ball and make WHM get it or SCH even.

    That would deter abit from the Soul Rape you speak of, but even Regain aside let's just hope what they add will be balanced with MP-->Powerfulness as was said of Meteor. I would like to see Pax for WHM and maybe the opposite of Pax for them or another mage as well.

    All in all I just hope SE doesn't tease us with these only for them to suck royal ass.

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  • Omgwtfbbqkitten
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    I over look Meteor because it would have an ungodly MP cost to match its power, RDM on the other hand, does not need yet another buff to cycle nor does it need any more help in terms of support power.
    Last edited by Omgwtfbbqkitten; 05-06-2008, 06:30 AM.

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  • Yellow Mage
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    Originally posted by Temagori View Post
    My guesses are because you would love to be able to use those, but Regain in your mind is going too far.
    You're insane. Refresh and Haste is too much for some Red Mages already, Regain would just murder us! At least Ultima and Meteor are reasonable in that the user doesn't get screwed for having the spell! Not because they're too powerful at all, it'd just be more soul-rape. And, like 'kitten said, think of the poor other mages displaced by a single spell that Red Mages have already.

    Even if it were self-cast only, it'd still be incredibly broken.

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