I know both are great support classes, but do Brd and Cor group well together?
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Depending on the make-up of the rest of the party and what you're fighting, etc., the answer ranges from "Yes" to "Absolutely."Ellipses on Fenrir
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Short answer... yes!
In party situations, it's a little bit better than a double-bard setup - the BRD can play double March, and the COR covers attack with Chaos Roll and then choose between Samurai Roll and Fighter's Roll. Also, Light Shot is one of the most effective Sleep effects in the game and it's insanely better than Lullaby because the resists are MUCH lower.
For endgame, COR is an absolute monster. It can do everything - pull, help with kiting, buff melees, sleep and dispel. In a party with a BRD the combination turns a melee party into a Special Forces unit. Put a COR and a BRD together in a party with BLMs, and you double the MP pool while increasing the entire party's shock-and-awe value simply by the combination of Wizards Roll and Threnody.Host of irc.gamesurge.net #FF14 - TheAfterLife XI & XIV LS
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I think Olo's trying to say he wants to merit his BRD with my COR >.>
But yes, for practically any setup they compliment each other well, better than 2 BRDs do because of COR's different buffs. At 75 if you have a COR, a BRD, and a RDM, you could fill the other 3 spots with mediocre-geared BSTs and PUPs and still pull 10k/hr most likely.Callysto of RamuhCaithsith - 75 RDM / BRD / COR / PLD / WAR / SCH / DRK
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Bard + COR + Sanction OMG YES!!!
I got into a group hunting Corbi(sp?) Bhaflau Thickets as a 64 BLU/THFThe PLD and I never had to rest for mp. There was enough mp refreshing for me to CASATA Dimensional Death (On the PLD), then Frentic Rip, SA Dimensional Death (on the PLD), then Frentic Rip again. I had full mp at the end of every fight. I change my tactic to Red Lotus Blade, CASATA Death Scissors (On the PLD), MB Death Ray, Frentic Rip, Frentic Rip, TA Dimensional Death, Frentic Rip. By time the the Cor pulled another Corbi or Crawler, my MP was full. A party like that will probably never happen to me again.PSN ID: Kelshan
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The only problem with a BRD + COR setup is that when I type...
/sea all COR
I only find like 3 people.
Now assume a TP-Burn Meripo setup with NIN/DD/DD/BRD/COR/Healer
What do you roll and what do I play?
It's obvious that our healer is going to be very happy with Double Ballad + Healer's + Evoker's, but what about the melees?
A 20% Bard Haste combined with our healer's Haste for all will bring us to a lovely 45% base Haste notwithstanding gear or double Minuet if we've got Rangers.
Is COR's roll choice highly dependent upon who's in the PT?
Warrior = Fighters?
Samurai = Samurai?
Thief = Rogues?
Is Drachen Roll worth sacrificing one of the above for if there's a DRG in the Party? Puppet Roll? Beast Roll?
What if our healer is a Summoner?Last edited by Sabaron; 12-13-2007, 07:40 AM.
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Originally posted by Sabaron View PostA 20% Bard Haste combined with our healer's Haste for all will bring us to a lovely 45% base Haste notwithstanding gear or double Minuet if we've got Rangers.
Originally posted by Sabaron View PostIs COR's roll choice highly dependent upon who's in the PT?
Originally posted by Sabaron View PostIs Drachen Roll worth sacrificing one of the above for if there's a DRG in the Party? Puppet Roll? Beast Roll?
Originally posted by Sabaron View PostWhat if our healer is a Summoner?Callysto of RamuhCaithsith - 75 RDM / BRD / COR / PLD / WAR / SCH / DRK
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Best parties I've had in merits were COR + BRD + RDM + 3xMelee. With good players, the pacing is just stupidly fast, to the point where you seriously can run out of mobs to kill.
Estimate average in those occasional parties at around 20K+ per hour, with the number peaking as high as 24K/hour if everyone's firing on all cylinders that day.
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Short Answer: Does a bear s*** in the woods?
One thing people are overlooking here is that BRD + COR also opens a better rationalization to use Corsairs Roll in merit PTs at high level, epecially if you have RDM healing and hasting the PT, then BRD can shift down one march in favor of minuets or madrigals as needed.
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... What level are we talking about here? And, it is exclusively for full exp party or does the OP plan on some small group work?
Not that BRD + COR is a bad combination, but it's lacking in duo potential, and flimsy for two legs of a trio.
At lower levels, parties may desire an extra healer more than an extra support role job, so that's another consideration. After Lv.40+, it should be a highly desirable combination, but before Lv.25 I'd be inclined to skip the set and opt for more healer or DD.Bamboo shadows sweep the stars,
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Originally posted by IfritnoItazura View Post... What level are we talking about here? And, it is exclusively for full exp party or does the OP plan on some small group work?
Not that BRD + COR is a bad combination, but it's lacking in duo potential, and flimsy for two legs of a trio.
At lower levels, parties may desire an extra healer more than an extra support role job, so that's another consideration. After Lv.40+, it should be a highly desirable combination, but before Lv.25 I'd be inclined to skip the set and opt for more healer or DD.
Bard also really doesn't shine until higher levels as well.
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Originally posted by Malacite View PostNever mind that if you have a DRK and WAR, Chaos Roll + Fighter's Roll is brutal with a bard to further buff them.
BRD can't buff Double Attack at all, they can just encourage it to happen a little more often through March songs, but its still the same Double Attack percentage it was before. Only gear like Brutal, WAR relic AF or Fighter's Roll will buff Double Attack's percentage further.
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