.dat mining results - EPIC NEW STUFF!

[Mezlo]

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Finally started looking into the Trials of the M-thing... actually looking forward to doing this for the DNC dagger. That thing is proly one of the best off-hand weapon a DNC can have:

Athame
(Dagger) All Races
DMG: 31 Delay: 211
Occasionally attacks twice
Lv. 75 THF / BRD / DNC

Depending on how often that "occasionally attacks twice" actually procs, this might push Joytoy (D sword) outta the lime-light for DNC.

How many over-camped NM's how many times do you need to kill for that thing?

[Neverslip]

Re: .dat mining results - EPIC NEW STUFF!

Finally started looking into the Trials of the M-thing... actually looking forward to doing this for the DNC dagger. That thing is proly one of the best off-hand weapon a DNC can have:

Athame
(Dagger) All Races
DMG: 31 Delay: 211
Occasionally attacks twice
Lv. 75 THF / BRD / DNC

Depending on how often that "occasionally attacks twice" actually procs, this might push Joytoy (D sword) outta the lime-light for DNC.

[ItazuraNhomango]

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That must be an April Fools joke . WHMs are up down there with PUPs, BSTs and SMNs with jobs that you laughed at if you want to bring them to any sort of party.

In the last couple of months, about half of my merit parties had WHMs. (I'm BRD almost exclusively for merits.) I know I personally prefer WHM over a RDM for a strong party at the Greater Colibri camp--Dia III is nifty and all, but Esuna is almost a must when chaining Wivres.

The second before last merit party, the best DD was PUP (with Automaton's output added, of course).

SMNs are very wanted in the Astral Flow parties, but the one I'm impressed with was the one soloing statues in Dynamis-Bastok. I also noticed on Tuesday that SMNs do really nice and consistent damage on Kirin, while my SCH was better off not wasting MP on heavily resisted nukes.

Oh, back to WHM--did I mention my Dynamis LS is looking for WHMs?

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I want that staff for my SCH and RDM, but the WHM in my social LS took off without me since I had to go to Dynamis. He left to do the magian-whatever trial thing... with a SMN... Meh.

Anyway, with a staff that powerful as the prize, you think there won't be other WHM/RDM/SCH/SMN willing to join you to get through the trials?

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In some ways, I almost wished WHMs were unpopular. My SCH frequently was passed over for invites during the climb to 75, due to all the WHMs and RDMs seeking at the same time...

[Ziero]

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Actually the mobs need to give exp to count.

Hi2ulvlsync.

That must be an April Fools joke . WHMs are up down there with PUPs, BSTs and SMNs with jobs that you laughed at if you want to bring them to any sort of party. Heck before I stopped bothering to log into the game anymore (due to going a 6 month stretch without a single WHM invite) I was the only person in my LS left who was still a WHM main. All the others had moved on to RDM, SCh or picked up another job as a main.

...I have never seen a Whm get laughed out of any party, especially good Whms. As long as you can cure, haste and keep your MP up, you're gold. But I guess when the only thing you care about is Colibri merit camps, things can look a little skewed.

You also seem to forget that WHM/NIN has a considerable amount of downtime due to the lack of native MP regeneration. You tend to have to rest every 5 or 6 mobs because of the whole "Buffs and debuffs costing MP" thing.

5 to 6 fights? That's a pretty decent rate to solo mobs compared to many other jobs. Considering you have access to not only the strongest one handed weapons, but the strongest one handed weaponskill, your fights will be much faster then most solo jobs. Though I wasn't aware utsu cost that much MP.

You didn't listen to my point. Why would even an average geared WHM take some of the gear from the last few updates over what they already have? The only useful things I can think of are the campaign only accessories since it's the only way WHMs can get merits anymore but even then they usually aren't worth the effort to obtain.

Again, I don't really follow Whm specific gear, but I think a +15% curing Staff would be a pretty good item to have. Better then any other curing staff and absolutely free. There's also the fact that the Magian Clubs are Whm only, but everyone gets something from the Magian Trials, so they don't count mirite?

You're going to have to do your own research about the stuff you could use from last update though, the Evolith system is pretty in depth and expansive, but some of the potential magic bonuses for the Ebon/Ebur/Furia stuff look pretty nice. I know it's not "WHMONRY" and doesn't count to you, but there just might be some nice pieces you could make up with a little effort.

I love it when people constantly take things out of context because they can't come up with a decent retort. Micheal Moore would be proud. Though now you mention it WHMs having exclusive access to that +15% staff might make the playerbase actually look at a WHM a little longer before laughing them out of a party for a RDM or SCH.

You said the staff "wasn't for WHM" because other classes could use it. What other context is there when you don't consider something your class could use as for your class, just because other jobs could use it? I don't know about you, but to just about everyone I know, Whm is still the best healing class in game, especially now with it's new spells and abilities, and a +15% healing staff will only make them better. You're crying that "WHM didn't get anything this update" when you got at least two very nice weapons (Highest dps club and highest cure+% staff). But you don't count the staff because other jobs can use it and you don't count the club since you apparently can't...well...count.

And your point is? Other than taking a comment completely out of context? Blunt is still the most common resistance and the damage modifiers for blunt damage against most targets in the game are much lower than other damage types: Damage Types - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more

Only THREE specific monsters resist blunt only and anything else that resists it also resists every other weapon type. And of those mobs that resist all weapon types, only three of them have slightly more resistance to blunt damage then other weapons (Ghosts, Slimes and Flans). So out of the entire game all of SIX monster types have a specifically high resistance to blunt damage. While it may be 'most common' (by two mob types), there's still more then enough different families of mobs that you could beat the crap out of and never see any kind of resistance. You're making a mountain out of a molehill with your complaints about mobs resisting blunt damage, because while it may be 'most' common, it's still not all that common.

[Romyro]

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a Pixie NM that needs a full group to kill and can appear in one of 6 different zones

i believe the NM pixie is in each of the 6 zones (meaning thiers 6 Skulds and 6 Ulr (sp)). If you can get a decent setup you can kill it many times a day.

[Firewind]

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Actually the mobs need to give exp to count.

The ironic parts are that A) Whm/Nin is actually one of the better solo jobs in the game and B) You don't have to solo anything and Whm is one job that never has a problem getting a party.

That must be an April Fools joke . WHMs are up down there with PUPs, BSTs and SMNs with jobs that you laughed at if you want to bring them to any sort of party. Heck before I stopped bothering to log into the game anymore (due to going a 6 month stretch without a single WHM invite) I was the only person in my LS left who was still a WHM main. All the others had moved on to RDM, SCh or picked up another job as a main.

You also seem to forget that WHM/NIN has a considerable amount of downtime due to the lack of native MP regeneration. You tend to have to rest every 5 or 6 mobs because of the whole "Buffs and debuffs costing MP" thing.

I can't really say since I don't follow Whm specific updates. But last update everyone got some fantastic gear, and the update before that everyone got some fantastic gear and the update before that everyone got some fantastic gear etc etc. Oh, and this update, everyone got some fantastic gear.

You didn't listen to my point. Why would even an average geared WHM take some of the gear from the last few updates over what they already have? The only useful things I can think of are the campaign only accessories since it's the only way WHMs can get merits anymore but even then they usually aren't worth the effort to obtain.

...so it only counts if Whm is the only class to get good gear?

I love it when people constantly take things out of context because they can't come up with a decent retort. Micheal Moore would be proud. Though now you mention it WHMs having exclusive access to that +15% staff might make the playerbase actually look at a WHM a little longer before laughing them out of a party for a RDM or SCH.

I had no idea Dooms, Hecteyes and Leeches were most mobs in the game. Because those are the only mobs who have a specific resistance to blunt damage. All other mobs with damage resistance to blunt also resist other weapon types as well.

And your point is? Other than taking a comment completely out of context? Blunt is still the most common resistance and the damage modifiers for blunt damage against most targets in the game are much lower than other damage types: Damage Types - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more

[Ziero]

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First read my post. I was talking about the .DAT mining. Name the last time White Mages got anything gear-wise from an update that was worth equipping.

I can't really say since I don't follow Whm specific updates. But last update everyone got some fantastic gear, and the update before that everyone got some fantastic gear and the update before that everyone got some fantastic gear etc etc. Oh, and this update, everyone got some fantastic gear.

Second everyone is getting something incredible from thr Magian stuff and all other staff weilding classes can use that staff so it's not really "for white mages". It's More "For Red mage and Scholar and those other jobs that we at SE think still try to heal but don't give a shit about".

...so it only counts if Whm is the only class to get good gear?

Have you SEEN the Club Trial NMs? Stray Mary and Dune Widow (two NMs whose lifespans have never exeeded two minutes on my server), a Pixie NM that needs a full group to kill and can appear in one of 6 different zones and Lamprey Lord, an NM that WHMs can't solo.

Your point? Everyone has to deal with the horribad Magian trial crap. How terrible.

And Clubs have ALWAYS had a very high damage rating because you take a damage penalty against most targets due to blunt damage being the most common damage type resistance in the game.

I had no idea Dooms, Hecteyes and Leeches were most mobs in the game. Because those are the only mobs who have a specific resistance to blunt damage. All other mobs with damage resistance to blunt also resist other weapon types as well.

The Staff trials for the +15% Cure Potenct staff are even more idiotic:

Kill 100 Treants under a weather effect.
Kill 100 Spiders under Fire, Lightning or Light weather.
Kill 100 Arcana under Light Weather
Kill 100 Beasts with Holy
Get 10 Bottled Pixies

How many of those tasks are actually soloable by a WHM?

The ironic parts are that A) Whm/Nin is actually one of the better solo jobs in the game and B) You don't have to solo anything and Whm is one job that never has a problem getting a party.

Trees in Jugner(even saplings count), Spiders in Altep, Arcana in Delkfutts, Beasts...anywhere...and Bottled Pixies? Really? THAT'S what you're complaining about? Hell, you even have a Trial where you can literally kill any mob you want. And you're complaining? The Curing staff upgrade looks like one of the easiest trial paths in the game. Stop bitching and gtfo.

[Romyro]

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The NMs for the hand-to-hand don’t seem to be very ‘wanted’. The first 4-5 days I’d go there and randomly get invited to an alliance with up to 12 people ><. The H2hs are starting to die down now as there’s usually only 1-2 people there, if any.

If your camping sought after NMs, your best option is to let other campers know and tell them you have no problem if someone sets QM.

[Firewind]

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Wait, what? I wasn't aware there were mobs that specifically resist blunt apart from that 1 floor in Limbus. Seems weird too when you consider the majority of weapons in the game are slash damage.

Damage Types - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more

If you look at the Modifiers the ones for Blunt damage are on average much, much lower and the lower ones more common than other weapon types.

[Elwynn]

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Kill 100 Arcana under Light Weather

To be fair here, I think that the "under specific weather" condition can also be satsified by being that day. However, that's basically one hour out of every eight, and at least one of them you're probably going to be asleep IRL.

Still, SE is clearly using a dartboard for this shit.

[Malacite]

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And Clubs have ALWAYS had a very high damage rating because you take a damage penalty against most targets due to blunt damage being the most common damage type resistance in the game.

Wait, what? I wasn't aware there were mobs that specifically resist blunt apart from that 1 floor in Limbus. Seems weird too when you consider the majority of weapons in the game are slash damage.

[Durahansolo]

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Kill 100 Arcana under Light Weather

SHITE!

[Mezlo]

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yeah, its shit.

[Ketaru]

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Kill 100 Treants under a weather effect.
Kill 100 Spiders under Fire, Lightning or Light weather.
Kill 100 Arcana under Light Weather
Kill 100 Beasts with Holy
Get 10 Bottled Pixies

Looks like this whole Magian Weapon fiasco is beyond my ability to tolerate.

[Firewind]

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Not only can they get a free 15% Cure Potency Staff, they also get some of the best single handed DPS weapons in game. Hell, the Mjollnir upgrade boosts the dmg by +8, making it into a 65 dmg one handed weapon. It ends up beating even the Excalibur in DPS.

First read my post. I was talking about the .DAT mining. Name the last time White Mages got anything gear-wise from an update that was worth equipping.

Second everyone is getting something incredible from thr Magian stuff and all other staff weilding classes can use that staff so it's not really "for white mages". It's More "For Red mage and Scholar and those other jobs that we at SE think still try to heal but don't give a shit about".

Have you SEEN the Club Trial NMs? Stray Mary and Dune Widow (two NMs whose lifespans have never exeeded two minutes on my server), a Pixie NM that needs a full group to kill and can appear in one of 6 different zones and Lamprey Lord, an NM that WHMs can't solo.

And Clubs have ALWAYS had a very high damage rating because you take a damage penalty against most targets due to blunt damage being the most common damage type resistance in the game.

The Staff trials for the +15% Cure Potenct staff are even more idiotic:

Kill 100 Treants under a weather effect.
Kill 100 Spiders under Fire, Lightning or Light weather.
Kill 100 Arcana under Light Weather
Kill 100 Beasts with Holy
Get 10 Bottled Pixies

How many of those tasks are actually soloable by a WHM?