.dat mining results - EPIC NEW STUFF!

[Solymir]

Re: .dat mining results - EPIC NEW STUFF!

Whm/Sch able to use Accession, so excited. Leveling Sch to 40 and higher, QQ.

[Ziero]

Re: .dat mining results - EPIC NEW STUFF!

Because Whm/Rdm and Whm/Sch will get nothing out of it, mirite?

P.S. Convert will be gimped and new spells and abilities will be new.

[Firewind]

Re: .dat mining results - EPIC NEW STUFF!

This is going to change quick, fast, and in a hurry in the next six months, ya know . . .

/point avatar
/point title

Also, Magic Accuracy+10 Soulsaber do want. It's the sexiest part of the Murgleis, on a Longsword! No VNM drops required, either!

I don't usually go for troll bait unless I'm bored but you are aware of what RDM/SCH and SCH/RDM will be able to do with the new level caps right?

[Malacite]

Re: .dat mining results - EPIC NEW STUFF!

It's just a bit better than Siro, but it's still amazing none the less especially for DNC. No more joyeuse for DNC! Hi2u multi-hit B+ rank weapon instead of D rank.


I'm curious to see how the other multi-hit weapons do. The dagger wasn't the best example (at least as far as THF is concerned) but the Scythe is just insanity. With 528 Delay SAM roll will easily enable 5-hit which is going to be pretty crazy...

I don't think it's quite possible for DRG (the lance has a bizarre delay of 507 wtf?) but is still pretty sick. The ones I'm most interested in are GKT vs Hagun (or even the 89 DMG GKT holy shit that's nasty) and the Warfangs vs Destroyers/Shenlong.

The delay is quite high on the H2H but if it procs on both fists it's more than worth it.

[Ziero]

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Currently, Magian enhanced relics are still the best DPS weapons in game, even beating the high Dmg OAT weapons. Knowing that future updates will bring more Magian trials, and that the use of the "occasionally attacks 3-4 times" augments that were found in the dats haven't been applied to anything yet, it's safe to say future updates will make both current Magian weapons as well as Relics and Mythics much stronger.

Also, as Mal commented, tests on the knife show it's pretty close to the DPS of the Sirro knife as is, so if anything these weapons will equal top tier weapons, but not outright beat many of them.

[Malacite]

Re: .dat mining results - EPIC NEW STUFF!

Proc rate on the Occasionally Attacks twice weapons is 40%ish. Test was done with the GKT one. Assuming the OAT is the same rate accross the board then, they are broken @ 40%, alot of those weapons are close to, if they don't outright, do more dmg than Relics.

Where? I saw at BG the 1st one was the Dagger, and the guy found it to be 40.6%

And no these things don't out damage relics.

[Yellow Mage]

Re: .dat mining results - EPIC NEW STUFF!

Heck before I stopped bothering to log into the game anymore (due to going a 6 month stretch without a single WHM invite) I was the only person in my LS left who was still a WHM main. All the others had moved on to RDM, SCh or picked up another job as a main.

This is going to change quick, fast, and in a hurry in the next six months, ya know . . .

/point avatar
/point title

Also, Magic Accuracy+10 Soulsaber do want. It's the sexiest part of the Murgleis, on a Longsword! No VNM drops required, either!

[ShepardG]

Re: .dat mining results - EPIC NEW STUFF!

Proc rate on the Occasionally Attacks twice weapons is 40%ish. Test was done with the GKT one. Assuming the OAT is the same rate accross the board then, they are broken @ 40%, alot of those weapons are close to, if they don't outright, do more dmg than Relics.
Yes if you have dagger merits for thf and dnc, that OAT weapon just became the new offhand weapon of choice....hell for DNC even without Dagger merits, you lose 4 base dmg on the weapon when trading in your joyeuse for the dagger, but gain a ridiculus leap in ACC/ATK with the increased skill.

[Armando]

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Clubs have ALWAYS had a very high damage rating because you take a damage penalty against most targets due to blunt damage being the most common damage type resistance in the game.

A bit late to the party but this can't be the reason, because all clubs not named Perdu Wand have shit for DPS. If blunt were a commonly resisted type and Square wanted to offset that fact, then the DPS of clubs would have to be higher than the DPS of other weapons, so the DMG would have to be higher still or the Delay would have to be lower.

[Romyro]

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i thought the eye was 100% but all the other stuff is not. an Eye dropped all 3 times for us. 1/3 on the Chr ring.

[Ziero]

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... giving them what? *crosses fingers and hopes it's not head.

Lets just say those trials will leave a bad taste in your mouth.

[Mezlo]

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... giving them what? *crosses fingers and hopes it's not head.

Feba's old avatar would help you out in that department, just ask him.

[Neverslip]

Re: .dat mining results - EPIC NEW STUFF!

400 exp giving Arcana
300 exp giving Hippogryphs

... giving them what? *crosses fingers and hopes it's not head.

[Ziero]

Re: .dat mining results - EPIC NEW STUFF!

How many over-camped NM's how many times do you need to kill for that thing?

For that absurdly beautiful weapon, you need to kill:

Nocuous Weapon x3
Black Triple Stars x3
Serra x3
400 exp giving Arcana
300 exp giving Hippogryphs
and obtain 10 Eyes of Verthandi

For me, the only hard part would be the eyes, but if you have an HNMLS, that's not a problem at all seeing as you can pop her multiple times in multiple zones on the same day. The eyes also have a high drop rate, and sometimes come 2 at a time.

[Neverslip]

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How many over-camped NM's how many times do you need to kill for that thing?

I didn't have too much time to look into it before work. My buddy put the link on LS website cuz searching for Trial of M crap on wiki ain't working out for me very well... so didn't get a chance to read the actual trials part yet. Only the shiny at the end of the rope. I don't think they are gonna be that bad, personally. I mean once the Version Update fervor dies down a bit this is gonna be relatively ez... but take a long time. It's a grind. I figure I can either farm for a Adder Jambiya (1.5mil) or grind one o' these out.

I hope at some point SE allows other weapons besides Trial, Relic, and Mythic weapons. I'd love to be able to augment my Azoth, Hagun, Oni, and Soboro.