How do I level?

[Shadowneko]

Re: How do I level?

And, Shadowneko, there's no reason to insult WoW players like that. We've all run into immature, unpleasant people in FFXI at some point, I would think.

I'm not insulting the players...just WoW itself! That game seems to be a horrible waste of space from everything I keep reading about it(bad commiunity,superfast lvls,no content, ETC.). I admit I never wanted to try it myself for the simple reason that I have no real interest in the Warcraft universe and it doesn't seem like a fun place to play for me. The only MMO I've ever liked was and is FFXI....

It just seems like a bad beginner's game to me.....like Final Fantasy Mystic Quest....

[WishMaster3K]

Re: How do I level?

MY TOES ARE COLD

Ahh... Valkurm.

[Srxjo]

Re: How do I level?

thank you ^^

[Dymlos]

Re: How do I level?

They update that part once per month. I think it's a deal VG cats made with SE for their monthly XI newsletter. If I'm wrong someone please correct me. I still prefer this comic for humor sakes. ^_^. If I can't show the url, it's the one with 'Ternaldo's Guide to Super Fun Partying in Final Fantasy XI!'

http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=96

[Srxjo]

Re: How do I level?

http://www.vgcats.com/ffxi/

how often do they update that site with more?

[WishMaster3K]

Re: How do I level?

With that type of mentality, the OP better not do any Melee jobs.
Once you get to the 40s and experience your first true afternoon LFP..
Ahh. I should stop right there.

[Celeal]

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To be fair, for most jobs, ya it is.

From your point of view, it is true: Beacuse you have experience/knowledge of this game. But for the OP who is at new to this game, it is different.

[Mhurron]

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Grouping/party for experience in FFXI is NOT brainlessly pack six people togather and brainlessly grind on mobs.

To be fair, for most jobs, ya it is.

[Celeal]

Re: How do I level?

I understand all that. But I'm just talking about LEVELING right now, as in getting items to boost my charcter, money to buy needed stuff, and XP to level, all of which seem to be missing RIGHT NOW (that's why I'm asking, I don't know if it changes later or not).
I may be doing something wrong, or not understand something, that's why I'm here.

But grinding mobs to level, again, does not sound right. In every other MMO to level you just do quests, at least that's how it is in GW and WoW. Brainlessly killing mobs just to level is not how it's meant to be. If they had higher rate drops of stuff you could use, higher rate than in WoW or GW, or even had other purpose other than giving you XP, I'd understand. But it doesn't seem they do, and partying with people to JUST kill those mobs, deff doesn't sound right or fun

Grouping/party for experience in FFXI is NOT brainlessly pack six people togather and brainlessly grind on mobs. Each group is unique with different people, job, skill, and fighting different mobs, etc. Indeed, trying to gain experience point effectively in this game is an art itself.

[Fugwarr]

Re: How do I level?

Get your signet, grind levels, gain crystal and conquest points because of the signet, sell the crystals on AH, and use the money from those and the conquest points to purchase gear. It's not hard, though I went until around level 8 before I got any gear, with the exception of a hat (which isn't useful to melee types) at level 6 from a quest in southern Windurst Waters to show off a hat in the area to all the NPC's.

The draw of this game for me, while I am not a fan of the grinding, is that I want to see how the storyline pans out, I love the idea of mixing different job combo's and being able to switch out at any time I may be bored of my main job for a change, and not have to switch characters, unlike in WoW. Nothing is easy in FFXI, and it seems they've taken every precaution they could to make things difficult for you.

The one thing this game could do without however is the deleveling. I don't mind losing exp, I just shouldn't lose levels. I remember a few times when I used to play years ago, I would get to a level and ready to fight something new, and then we'd wipe, or I'd die on the first pull, delevel, and I'd be kicked from the group and have to go back to the other area and level all over again so I can come back and find another group to try again.

[Dymlos]

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Ah good 'ol XI, everything you learn from other MMOs, it greets you by pimpslapping you in the face, then throws you outside your starter zone and it tells you 'Start learning boy, no you don't get a tutorial, this is man's country! Tutorial's are for little sissy babies who need their mommies! Now, are you a sissy baby or a man?"

[ItazuraNhomango]

Re: How do I level?

Um. OP didn't say anything about not wanting to party with others; he mostly just has issues with quests not giving much experience points.

And, Shadowneko, there's no reason to insult WoW players like that. We've all run into immature, unpleasant people in FFXI at some point, I would think.

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To OP:

Anyway, I would encourage you try things out for a bit longer--get to Lv.18, unlock the Support Job ability, and get to Lv.30. If you still hate the experience which you call "grinding", then feel free to quit.

[Mhurron]

Re: How do I level?

http://www.vgcats.com/ffxi/

[Shadowneko]

Re: How do I level?

WoW is a lame beginer's game compared to FFXI(it's for little kids who can't play in the big tough sandbox and want eveything handed to them on a silver platter like the little brats they are!). I've heard over and over that you can get top level and bored(I'd be bored...I just know it) in that game so fast it's not even funny....

In FFXI yes alot of it is leveling with groups but I don't mind so much. Rather than just get stuck on getting 75 I level my jobs with another goal in mind: I want to do missions and see the storyline(much of which is accessable at different lvls depending on the mission). The first few nation missions can be done from lvl 9-12 for the most part and some are skipable(the first big one is the dragon fight for rank mission 2-3 at lvl 25). The first CoP missions(some of the hardest missions and some of the best story) become doable once you have a lvl 30 job. Also due to an addition CoP missions do hand out XP...but only in limited amounts.


If you're really obessed with solo play...well get lvl 30 and do the quest to unlock Beastmaster. That's one of the only jobs in the whole game that can solo!

That's the other thing I like about FFXI vs other MMOs: You are not bound to your starting class. Start as Warrior and decide you hate it? fine just go talk to the moogle and swap to mage(buying the right stuff for it) with no need to make a new character! You can always go back to what you were playing before with all the lvls you had on that job. All jobs do start on lvl 1 but you keep all the skillups you've gained and all the lvls on the particular job....

Now this may not be your game but I'm way into my firends and the storylines of FFXI. If this isn't your cup of tea I suggest you go back to those instant gratification games like WoW....but if you wana work at it there are some rather fun things to do and a great community to meet ^^

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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In WoW...

Yeah, just hold that thought.

And I'm gonna clear up the misconception of solo, even held by FFXI players here.

There is a respectable solo game to be had in FFXI, its just the fact of the matter that in WoW its given to you from level 1.

In FFXI, you have to earn the ability to solo. Several jobs can do it, but you must work for your skills to do so. Jobs such as Red Mage, Blue Mage, Black Mage, Beastmaster, Ninja, Thief, Dragoon and Puppetmaster are all very good soloists at varying degrees, but there's an art to each of them and you must spend time partying in other jobs first to really have the power to master them.

And you really need to make use of jobs like White Mage, Ninja and Blue or Red Mage via the subjob system to make this happen. Subjobs are the bread and butter of versatility in this game, whether you're a solo or party-based job, you'll want more than one to enhance your skills.

I've soloed practically all of my Beastmaster levels and a handful of my Blue Mage ones, but I wouldn't be able to do either that well had I not partied my Ninja and White Mage jobs elsewhere.

That said, FFXI is not deceptive like WoW's solo game is, FFXI does not beat around the bush about you needing to cooperate with other players. Even if you are a solo class, you'll still need to team with other players for missions, quests, notorious monsters, all instances and endgame. WoW just baits you with solo and they forces grouping on you at endgame.

There are also many party based jobs, if partying is something you don't want, then you're going to have to look into the soloist jobs I mentioned. Jobs like Warrior, Ranger, Corsair, Bard, Samurai, Monk, Paladin and White Mage are more reliant on EXP parties to advance, though PLD and WHM can solo to a fair degree, too.

As far as EXP quests go. They're few and far between and totally frivelous in terms of thier returns. You can get EXP from the following quest-types, missions and instances.

National Escort Quests through particular zones.
The Sacarium quest
Chains of Promathia Missions
Emptiness Notorious Monster battles
Besieged