How do I level?

[Mythos]

Re: How do I level?

That's not really a fair assessment of WoW. Of course this guy isn't providing a very fair assessment of FFXI either.

[WishMaster3K]

Re: How do I level?

WoW supports 3rd Pt Apps. And GoldSellers.

Like I said, MMORPGs for Dummies.

[Xionxxxx]

Re: How do I level?

Where you talk to an NPC, kill 100 of the monster they tell you to, go back to the NPC, kill 200 of the monster, go back to the NPC, kill 500 of the monster, go back to the NPC until your eyes bleed from the shit awful graphics. Big improvement there.


The fact is, leveling sucks pretty much everywhere, the only real solution is to ditch leveling, but then characters become unbalanced and stupid

Actually you don't have to do those killing quests in WoW I know their mostly boring, but theres better quests for experience than the ones in FF11, and you also get decent amounts of gold, not only that but its also more fun to level in dungeons, (Instances in WoW) like Mini Dynamis's. But it is true WoW gets very boring after you hit lvl 70 in 3 weeks, where as FF11 it takes you 1 year to hit lvl 75 with a job, but it becomes alot more fun with the merit system and the subjob combinations, where as WoW gets lame and the only thing left to do in WoW is get better gear. The Graphics on the other hand are nice in WoW if you increase the resolution to 2048 x 1536 and turn the antialiasing to 6x, I had a big problem in FF11 with the graphics in Dynamis, too many characters slowed my PC down where as I ran WoW with max settings fine in 40 man raids. Either game is arguable, both have ups and downs.

[Omni]

Re: How do I level?

I think xionxxx is just a troll. He wasnt making any sense on a blink/utsusemi thread either.

[Feba]

Re: How do I level?

SE made the leveling system obselete compared to WoW.

Where you talk to an NPC, kill 100 of the monster they tell you to, go back to the NPC, kill 200 of the monster, go back to the NPC, kill 500 of the monster, go back to the NPC until your eyes bleed from the shit awful graphics. Big improvement there.


The fact is, leveling sucks pretty much everywhere, the only real solution is to ditch leveling, but then characters become unbalanced and stupid

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: How do I level?

That made no sense.

[Xionxxxx]

Re: How do I level?

This is the Official BORING way you level, you join a BORING group, go camp an area, stare at the Game Screen til the 1000000000th mob you kill at that point you fall asleep..... SE made the leveling system obselete compared to WoW.

[wrongfeifong]

Re: How do I level?

Let's just say

"The OP has quit FFXI and returned to the world of warcraft"

WoW to me is really a grinding game, you just grind differently, doing these "kill XX number of this" type of quest. And most of your experience point are from actual Killing then quest really.

Anyway, this guy probably gone already, and gave up FFXI. There are people who can't play certain game just as most of us playing FFXI over WoW.

[Ameroth]

Re: How do I level?

Ya know, despite all the bashing of this game we do around here, it's actually a very rewarding game if given of the required time. Hardcore gamers will obviously excel faster, but if with low amounts of playtime this game can still be enjoyable.

Take our bitching about the game with a grain of salt; after all, people like me play it waaay too much (that's also the reason we're given the right to bitch).

[Feba]

Re: How do I level?

if you don't like getting screwed up the ass with the sharpest implement SE has on hand, you won't enjoy FFXI.

This is why our gay manthra population is so high.

[Omni]

Re: How do I level?

In WoW...

This isnt WoW.

Sorry, don't want to hound on you being a new player and all but that's sorta like going to BurgerKing and asking for a BigMac. Then when you don't like the dumb founded look on the cashier's face you say 'But at McDonalds they have BigMacs!'

I'm not saying WoW is bad... It has it's place in the MMO world. It does have a tendancy to spoon feed everything to it's players which can make them very lazy players. FFXI is on the other end of this spectrum, it often kicks it's players in the balls for no reason, but there is plenty of great content for both casual and hard core players

QFT!

[Nuriko]

Re: How do I level?

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"You iz hot!"

"I'm going to start wounding you now. I'm not sure when I'll stop."

[Ameroth]

Re: How do I level?

I mentioned this in the OP's thread about questing: This isn't WoW. It's not GW. It's not any other MMO besides FFXI. There are elements borrowed from other games, sure, but if you're coming into this game with the mindset that it's going to be like all the other MMOs you've played, you're in for a rude awakening.

At level 2, you really can't even use the word "griding" to describe leveling. Like IfritnoItazura mentioned, the exp curve is tremendously large, and gets larger as you progress in level. You gain levels by either soloing (much less effective for many jobs) or by grouping with other around your same level. No you don't just target the same mob for 10 levels, change zones, and repeat. There is a plethora of areas for groups of 2-6 to level in at any level range.

Yes you are fighting mobs with no other intention other than gaining exp. Maybe you don't understand how the FF series works, but you repetitively target mobs to gain exp so as to level up. Some mobs will drop valuables, but for the most part, mobs that an exp party will target will not drop anything of much value other than lots of crystals and beastman/kindred seals.

Leveling is a relatively important part of the FFXI experience, but it is not the sole aspect of the game. Leveling allows you travel and access other parts of the game that would be harder or impossible to access at low levels. However, there are so many activities for you to do at any level: Crafting, fishing, exploration (to some degree), socialization, farming, quests, missions, obtaining gear/items, helping others, etc, etc, etc.

In closing, my advice to you is this: If at level 2 you are already wishing this game was more like WoW, maybe go play WoW... or GW... or whatever.

Open-mindedness ftw.

[LyonheartLakshmi]

Re: How do I level?

So leveling in FFXI is just killing mob after mob, like in all the other FF games? Imagine that.

[Richie]

Re: How do I level?

There seem to be a lot of people in this thread who haven't played WoW so I'll give you all an idea of the quest system it has.

You approach the NPC with the ! over his head, he has a quest for you!

He begins to speak.... *Skip dialog* too long didn't read...
A quest progress tracker appears at the right of you screen reading. "Dire wolves 0/20" Cool, so after I kill 20 dire wolves for the quest (totally not grinding) I return to the NPC who now has a '?' over his head! He starts to say something... w/e scroll down to pick my reward. 3 options: Plate leather cloth, being a mage what should I pick? Oh that's right I can only wear the cloth. Well I accept my robe and In addition to that the NPC gives me X amount of xp which makes sense because 2 seconds of dialog skipping should get you more xp than just killing 20 wolves on your own.

I'm not saying WoW is bad... It has it's place in the MMO world. It does have a tendancy to spoon feed everything to it's players which can make them very lazy players. FFXI is on the other end of this spectrum, it often kicks it's players in the balls for no reason, but there is plenty of great content for both casual and hard core players (unlike WOW: 40man 5hour raids or just stop playing loser) and the challange makes up for it.