What you think?

[Tirrock]

Re: What you think?

Did she actually delete the character? If not, you can just reactivate or wait for one of those "return to vana'diel" things they do if it takes a while.

My parents were kinda nosey too when I was that age. They'd go through my garbage even, to make sure I wasn't doing drugs or drinking. (Ironically, my dad did both at the time.) If you have your own computer, set up some passwords to log on. If it's a shared computer, then keep your journal in a zipped file with password protection and don't use something obvious like your girlfriend's name as a password.

Punishments happen. Better hope that you get on her good side again and she lets you continue playing it, I guess. And probably best to avoid going against her.

[Darkages]

Re: What you think?

trust i dont like trust y not just rule in pain like i do! mr sodo knowes what me talking about

[Necropolis]

Re: What you think?

Well regardless of what he did, though you made it quite clear darkages, his parents are in the right.

Parents decide for thier children what they will and will not allow, and what actions will be taken if thier rules are broken. If the parents feel a need to sift through personal belongings they can, technically everything in thier house is thier property, including things a minor bought with thier money.

My parents never really snooped in my stuff, but if they had reason to they would in a heartbeat, so I would not only get in trouble for the intial reason, but also anything they dug up from searching my room.

But in the end, the parents decision is the end all argument. You're best bet would be apologenic and relieze what you did was wrong and learn from it, rather than to hold a grudge against your mother for something you did. You knew it was wrong, otherwise you wouldn't sneak out. So you willingly broke your mother's rules, and got caught doing so. Take the punishment and perhaps she'll see fit to trust you again.

Trust is the only real thing you lost, and is a lot harder to regain than a FFXI character.

[Darkages]

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yea what he did to get grounded is bad but not as bad as drugs in stuff it takes 2 ppl and no clothes to obtain this.

and since im not telling you what exactly its not breaking any rules so me happy
(hopefully)

[forevergamer]

Re: What you think?

well,first of all,it's not your card.so your mom has the upper hand there.plus to malevolent,i love what your thinking bout mcdonalds.but that like wishing for world peace too!!

Keep playing!!I do!!

[Darkages]

Re: What you think?

well he said its been cancled a month from no payment if im correct it takes 3 months with canclation in game and 6 month from no payments i think

[Theyaden]

Re: What you think?

Well I Snuck out of my house and did some stuff with my Girl ...... My mom was nosy and read some of my stuff while i was asleep. She said she has the right to

Thats why I never kept a journal when growing up they just beg someone else to flip through them. Additionally later in life when your an adult journals are a very bad idea if your adding anything you don't want someone else to get ahold of. Sorry you lost your character, but unless your able to get your own credit card (for gods sake don't run up the bills on it when you do) I would not advise creating a new character untill the payments are under your control since it could result in another loss of character data. Once you do ask if the old character is retrievable. Check with a couple representatives if the 1st says no, but if it stays consistent the old character is gone .

Reason I mention this is usually the reps are decient, but occasionally you get one that just wants you off the phone and will just say no without checking. (If I were to hazard a guess the character is probably gone, but you never know.)

[Vyuru]

Re: What you think?

Well I Snuck out of my house and did some stuff with my Girl ......

Well, since "stuff" can range anywhere from drugs, booze, and sex, yeah, if I was your parent I'd be pretty mad too.

My mom was nosy and read some of my stuff while i was asleep. She said she has the right to

And not that I'm condoning being sneaky or anything, but this is why you never put down in writing, or record, what you don't want people to know about.

[Tirjasdyn]

Re: What you think?

Well I Snuck out of my house and did some stuff with my Girl ...... My mom was nosy and read some of my stuff while i was asleep. She said she has the right to

yeah, I'd take away the game too.

And she does you're only 15.

[Sodo_Leviathan]

Re: What you think?

Well I Snuck out of my house and did some stuff with my Girl ...... My mom was nosy and read some of my stuff while i was asleep. She said she has the right to

[Darkages]

Re: What you think?

well parents can be werid and not allow 17 maybe even 18 year old parents will not let them get any thing from drivers licence to credit cards the parents can restrict what ever they want till he is 18 so dosnt matter

[Malacite]

Re: What you think?

You can't attribute killing to video games; it just doesn't work that way. At best you COULD argue that they could set off a person that was already mentally unstable, but that's a moot point because just about anything else could've set them off as well.

Hundreds of thousands of people have been exposed to violent video games, movies, TV shows, and music for years, and none of them commit homicide. I was in the 3rd grade when I first played Resident Evil, and I can't even remember what grade I was in when I first played Mortal Kombat. Likewise, I'm sure almost everyone in these forums has seen porn at least once, for whatever the reason, but I'll bet 99% of them (if any) don't go around raping women. If your kid ends up holding a gun to your face over a video game, then he either had serious mental issues, or he didn't receive proper parenting. The odds of someone spontaneously killing a person just because they saw a violent act are practically inexistent.

And yeah, I agree on the bit about kids not playing MMOs as well.

Preach it baby! I totally agree with every point.

However, could the OP describe the "trouble"? He says that was paying for the bills >.> I actually do the same thing as he did. The game is paid on my Dad's credit card (I've yet to obtain my own but will likely do so in the near future) and each month I just add it to my tab of w/e I owe my parents for that week/month. I never miss a payment, so it all works out.

[Alcyonne]

Re: What you think?

Any time someone commits an act of violence that can get blamed on a video game, it's going to be because of some mental or emotional stress that has absolutely nothing to do with the video game. Most people are able to tell the difference between what is real and what's not.

What does everyone think about this... I bought FFXI with my own money paid the bills and I was using my moms credit card. I get in trouble and she decides she'll take it away from me ...... I lost 3 years worth of stuff and all my info is gone ...... and she says i can't play it anymore .... What would you have done

I'm just assuming I've read this correctly. I may not have.. but if you bought the game with your own money and have been paying her back every month for what's taken off her card, and if she suddenly and without any warning, just jumped the gun and took FFXI away from you for doing something she didn't like, then I can understand where you're coming from.

But, as I suspect, if she has warned you before that this would happen and you still went against her wishes, then I have to fully agree with everyone else here. In the end though, whether it seems fair or unfair to you, it is still her card. The best thing you can do in this case, is to either prove yourself to her so that she'll see no reason not to give the game back, or wait until you're old enough to have your own card. Basically, what it all comes down to is that while you're under her roof, you have to live by her rules.

[LyonheartLakshmi]

Re: What you think?

I somewhat disagree with the "move out" suggestion. If he was working full time and not going to school, I could see it. But sometimes, people just can't make that kind of money.

And before you say "he shouldn't be playing FFXI," keep in mind that a month of FFXI is a lot less than a month's worth of groceries, phone, water, electricity, and heating. I'm not saying to just leech off your parents for years, but to leave the house as soon as you possibly can isn't exactly wise either.

Well, I suggested moving out because the OP apparently disagrees with his mother's form of discipline. If you are 18 or older and still living with your parents, you have to be willing to abide by their rules, even if you think they might be too strict. If you can't stand the living arrangements, then moving out is the only option.

I'm not advocating moving out as soon as legally allowed. I personally lived with my parents until I was 24. It was a sweet deal. I didn't have to pay rent, I got a home cooked dinner every night, and didn't even have to do any laundry.

If the OP is old enough live on his own, but is choosing not to because of the benefits of living with his parents, he needs to consider the benefits he's reaping before he starts to complain about his FFXI access.

[Tirjasdyn]

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No kidding...of course he can't live in a larger home of his own with a six figure job right away.

I moved out when I was 18, lived in a one room apartment and still bought one of those new fangled play stations ...all on $4.15/hr

When you live in another person's house you play by their rules...end of story. Since groceries are more important than ffxi...I really can't buy the arguement.