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  • Zydel
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    Excellent post/guide.
    Very helpful.

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  • Lucky and Elizabeth
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    Originally posted by Kiraa View Post
    dunno why i'm doing this :p prolly bored
    anyway , goldsmith is known as the most expensive guild even thought it's not that expensive exept for few stages
    i lvled mine to 88 so far and still lvling it and wanted to share how to lvl it with cheapest way depending on ragnarok prices , yes i know there is another thread but i noticed it was almost all mistakes and ppl posting randomly about how what to make etc even thought they didn't lvl a craft and just copied pasted from craft list websites
    here we go :

    0-3 : Copper Ingot = copper ore x4 + fire crystal
    there is npc sell copper ore for 9 gil near bastok airship , so just get crystals and go there synth them till u get lv3 , they sell fast in bastok AH

    3-9 : Brass Ingot = zinc ore + copper ore x3 + fire crystal
    buy the copper ore from the same npc , and zinc ore from bastok AH mainly or sandy AH just not jeuno AH , when you are lv3-4 use advance image support to avoid breaking , they sell fast in AH but don't sell , keep few stacks for the next reciepe

    9-11 : Brass Sheet = Brass Ingot + fire crystal
    use the ingots u made and just sell them in AH

    11-15 : Silver Ingot = Silver Beastcoin x4 + fire crystal
    it caps at lv18 i know but beastcoins synth cost more than silver ore synth so just stop at 15 and start using the next reciepe , notice : use advance image support

    15-20 : Silver Ingot = Silver Ore x 4 + fire crystal
    you can even make 15k proft per stack if u were smart , how ? ok the goldsmithing guild sells the silver ore for 330 gil each if no one bought them from guild recently , even if u buy them from AH u still don't lose gil anyway

    notice : if the beastcoins were cheaper on ur server then just keep doing the beastcoins reciepe till lv18 even thought i doubt coins are cheaper than 300 gil on any server


    20-27 : Silver Hairpin = Silver Ingot + wind crystal
    u need advance image support to do it , after u make the hairpin you can sell it in AH OR use lightning crystal to desynth and get ingot back and use it again to make hairpin

    27-30 : Hiraishin x33 = Copper Ingot + Silver Ingot + Fire crystal
    sell them in bastok/jeuno AH

    30-33 : gemmed silver rings = gem + silver ring + earth crystal
    gemms are usually 10k for a stack , and silver rings from npc at low jeuno gems shop are 1250Gil each so u can either sell them to npc or if u care that much about the 2k u lose then sell them in AH which takes forever , or you can desynthesize them by using lightning crystal + ring and get silver ingots which cost more than the whole ring and sometimes u HQ these rings anyway and make all the gil u lost back

    33-38 : Myhtril Ingot = mythril beastcoins x4 + fire crystal
    u don't lose gil at all , even u make 6k per synth if u buy the coins inviduals from jeuno AH for 1k each

    38-40 : Mythril Ingot = mythril ore x4 + fire crystal
    this will be slow a bit since there isn't much ore in AH usually

    40-41 : Mythril Sheet = Mythril Ingot + fire crystal
    no gil loss

    41-47 : Mythril Rings = mythril ingot x2 + fire crystal
    if u make ur own ingots from the the buying coins inviduals then u won't lose gil , but if buy the ingots from AH u'll lose around 4k per synth

    47-51 : Gold Ingot = Gold Beastcoin x4 + fire crystal
    no gil loss , almost profit

    51-53 : Gold Ingot = Gold Ore x4 + fire crystal
    same no loss

    53-55 : Gold Rings = Gold Ingot x2 + fire crystal
    don't do this reciepe if it's big loss , shouldn't be more than 10k loss if you make your own ingots or even no loss or make gold earrings but i doubt they sell as fast as the rings

    55-59 : Mythril Cuisses = Mythril Sheet x2 + Ram Leather + fire crystal
    this synth is like 20k loss per craft , if the gold rings was no loss then just do rings till 59 but if gold rings was more than 20k loss then just do this , u can either npc the synth or wait till the GP day when they ask for it and just npc it infront of the npc for 10-15k

    59-64 : Platinum Ingot = Platinum nugget x6 + Platinum ore + fire crystal
    no gil loss , it's profit , i skipped platinum beastcoins synth because there is rarely even 1 coin in AH

    64-67 : Hydro Patas = Bone patas + Animal Glue + Mythril sheet + fire crystal
    this stage you better have a bonecrafter +69 friend or ask some bonecraft to make a deal with like , he makes bone patas for u for 1k profit each for him and if HQ he keep for himself or so , other than that it's hard to find many in AH , each bone patas cost 5k to make so total synth with mythril sheet and glue cost around 17k , u'll npc the hydro ptas for 2k

    67-69 : Moblumin Sheet = Moblumin ingot + fire crystal
    don't bother looking for them in AH , go to oldtol mavolpoles(sp) , camp Goblin Freelance + Moblin Ashman , they drop the ingot , farm them forever AND keep all the sheets don't waste them

    69-73 : Shrimp Lantern = Moblumin sheet + Moblin Puty + Tin ore + Beeswax + Fire crystal
    this reciepe requires alchemy sub 45 and smithing sub 31 , when i reached this lvl i had around 40 moblumin sheet which means i made around 40 shrimp lantern , sold each for 150k even though it sells for 300k fast , i made profit ? yes i made around 5 mil , moblin puty is lv35 alchemy synth so u can make it anyway if u had the sub to make the lantern and it cost 15k to make , so u almost make 140k per synth if u sold them for 150k like me or make 290k per synth if u sell for street price , however i think 150k is good enough since i had to camp those mobs who drop ingot and competed with WHMs who needed the item

    notice : now it's the stage with the highest loss of all goldsmith stages , if you pass this then you are almost there so lets start with next , assuming the moblumin sheets u had were not enough to get u to 73 lets assume it gets u to lv71

    71-73 : Gold Sabatons = Gold Ingot +Cermet Chunk x3 + Mercury + Ram Leather x2 + fire crystal
    you will have to npc them unless they ever sell on your server , on ragnarok they don't so i just npc'd them , you will use 3 stacks of gold for each 1 lvl average

    73-75 : Gold Patas = Gold Ingot + Patas + Mercury + fire crystal
    you need to get ur self a friend smithing to make Patas for you , it's expensive synth but that's the cheapest around this lvl , you will use 3 stacks of gold per 1 lvl average

    75-80 : Gold Bucklers = Targe + Gold Ingot + Mercury + Fire crystal
    you can find the targe at bastok from npc for 11k , npc gold bucklers or sell few in AH if u have space

    [ Notice : on the stage 70-80 using all gold ingots to npc them after using them there is a nice trick to make the loss less , for normal crafting info when you break a synth and it's 5 lvls under cap or lower u can get skill up but if u break and it's more than 5 lvl under cap then u don't get skill up , so try always doing the synth on Darksday without imagesupport and your moghouse energy should be fire and you'll break alot and get skill up still and not lose gold ingots sometimes , depending on ur luck , total gold ingots you have used to reach lv80 would be 30 stacks minimum ]

    80-87 : elemental beads = Elemental ore + wind crystal
    yes now it's like ubber profit on ragnarok , dunno about other servers , it's more like 70-80k profit per synth assuming u lose 10k for AH fees , so even if you break 1 ore from every 5-6 synth you don't lose anything , they sell fast too , but i suggest if you start from lv80 you only do them on light day with advance image support and buy the cheap ores not the higher price one to avoid ubber loss when break

    87-92 : Muscle belt = Gold Ingot + Manticore Leather + Brass ingot + fire crystal
    sell to npc , u'll prolly have enough gil to waste on this stage by the time you finish from getting the beads profit

    92-95 gemmed Platinum rings = lvHQ3 gem + platinum ring + earth crystal
    try see which one sells fast and cost cheapest to make

    95-100 Flame/Snow Rings = Fire/Ice bead + Orichalcum Ring + earth crystal
    this will be the slowest part you'll ever meet in goldsmithing , the rings on ragnarok are like 200-400k profit per synth but any break can make you cry , you can do free service synth for ppl on them to lvl fast also , but remember always have ur advance image support

    that's all about lvling ,i'm just lv88 so the stuff about after lv90 i just put them as the path i'm gonna choose
    now remember all this was based on ragnarok prices so don't reply complaining about those stuff cost more on ur server etc , i'm not god to know prices on all servers but this is average anyway

    about goldsmith guild test items
    8/10 Copper Hairpin
    18/20 Brass Hairpin
    28/30 Silver Hairpin
    38/40 Chain Gorget
    48/50 Mythril Ring
    58/60 Mythril Gorget
    68/70 Mythril Breastplate
    78/80 Torque
    88/90 Colichemarde

    some personal notes
    for good skill up with fire crystals do it on darksday facing north , or waterday facing west
    for wind crystals or earth crystals i prefer light day
    don't plan to lvl goldsmith seriously after lv60 unless you have 30 mil at least and planning to sactifice some of your gear to sell later to lvl it , it's sad when ppl start with 20 mil and waste them all to lv73 or so then give up

    sorry my english might not be as good and contain alot of typo's but at least it's understandable since it's not my 1st language
    If you don't want to take Silver Beast Coins from 11-15

    You can probley do Brass Scales until 13 and then you ionly have to do teh Silver Beast Coins for 2 lvs until you get to Silver Ore.

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  • Kurb
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    lol wouldn't you know farming silver beast coins is a pain in the arse 3 more lvls to go till ore great guide

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  • Mika
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    Something i made up at work for all u striving GS'ers that follow stupid synths that want you to spend 400k per synth


    68-73 Alchemy 30, Smithing16
    Shrimp Lantern
    Fire
    Tin Ingot
    Beeswax
    Moblumin Sheet
    Moblin Putty

    73-77 Alchemy 24
    Gold Gauntlets
    Fire
    Gold Ingot
    Cermet Chunk x2
    Leather Gloves x2
    Mercury

    77-80
    Level 54
    Rings

    78-83 Smithing 13
    Rapier
    Fire
    Gold Ingot
    Steel Ingot x2
    Fluorite
    Mercury

    83-87
    Elemental Beads
    WindOre

    87-91 Smithing 26
    Barone Zucchetto
    Fire
    Copper Ingot
    Darksteel Sheet
    Orichalcum Sheet
    Gold Ingot
    Sapphire
    Sheep
    LeatherMercury

    88-92 Smithing 26
    Orichalcum Dagger
    Fire
    Darksteel Ingot
    Orichalcum Ingot
    Ruby

    92-96 Alchemy 26
    Cursed Handschuhs
    Fire
    Cermet Chunk
    Darksteel Gauntlets
    Platinum Ingot x2

    96-99 Smithing 38
    Verdun
    Fire
    Adaman Ingot x2
    Platinum Ingot
    Gold Ingot
    MercurySpinel

    99-100
    Elemental Ring
    Earth
    Orichalcum Ring
    Bead









    Thats around 30 skill levels of Break Synths, Eaither this or make the same thing, with WAY more mat's, ya, u might lose some items on a break, but if u also look at the list, the majority of it is cheap(And doesnt sell) high cost items normaly sell fast, low cost items normaly dont sell fast. the sub craft is the level you need to break synth.


    Break Synth:

    Main Craft within 5 levels of current Craft attempt.
    Sub Craft within 15 levels of current Craft attempt.

    All you'll need is 16 smithing till 87 then just up to 26 till lv96 and 38 beyond that.
    Get alchemy to 30 and u wont have to worrie about it till u get goldsmithing to 100!!!


    If you plan on doing this i'd recommend getting 13 Bookshelves for the Moghancement: Fire, Which will give you "Overwhelming Fire Energy" which will lead to less item losses, also if u want to be safe, get Overwhelming for the Elemental Ore > Bead stage, sence if u lose a bead, u lose 200k... same with the rings. but for Earth

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  • Mikamaru
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    Thanks!

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  • Andvari
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    Thankyou for taking time out to write this guide.. Soon I will be looking into Goldsmithing myself and I will for sure be using this guide.

    Take care.

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  • Kiraa
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    yes its true , breaksynth works fine from 70 to 80 with underlvld sub ._. too bad koeing shields are 200-300k loss per synth here because many people aim to HQ and so many NQs around . but good thing here is the lv74 rings , they are never a loss , always 300-700k profit but break chance is gay like usual , got 99.9 now on gold but scared to do any of them anymore. broke last two snow and made triton ring which ended up lost from desynth ;;


    Thanks you Avoklex and /cheer hamlet , hope you pass the gold stage then its all easy

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  • mikesjustice
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    I'll add on, something to think about.

    M. ingots @ lvl 69 are difficult to farm and sometimes hard to find. Making the lanterns are profitable as well, but slow to sell. If time is of a factor, which these route will take months to accomplish literally, I would suggest Platinum Earring lvl 68.

    Now, for the real treat, a "Gold Hell" alternative......

    Should you not have lvled up alchemy as a sub past 45-50, you have the opportunity to "breaksynth" your way to lvl 78, significantly saving a lot of gil. Lvl 70-80 gold requires approx. 30 stacks of gold, give or take, but breaksynthing can cut this down to about 20 stacks. You will be making the Gold Equipment.

    Breaksynthing is the act of having your main craft 5 lvls or closer to item cap, and your subcraft 5-15 lvls away from item cap. The larger the out of cap you are with your subcraft lvl, the better this will work, but 15 lvls out is the max. Basically you WANT to fail the synth, yet you will continue to skill up. But to do this you will want to have MH enhancement: (crystal) element you use for the synth. The reason this works is because when you fail, the mh enhancement helps preserve materials lost, all while skilling up.

    -------------

    Now if "breaksynthing" is not an option, I might recommend ashuras, as they sell regularly and at a decent price. Mule these over and just sell daily until gone. These cap at lvl 75.

    Now grab support and go for the lvl 80 gold bucklers. However, do not npc these. Grab desynth mh enhancement and desynth these. They do desynth relatively well and you will get a few stacks of gold back.

    Also at lvl 92-97, you might consider Koenig shield. It's somewhat slow but it's all profit. Also at that point, you have nearly all options to make whatever vs being 100+3, aside from reaching tier 31 on the gold lvl 75 rings. No biggie there though. Take your time, make some profit.

    Everything else looks similar to the road I took.
    Last edited by mikesjustice; 06-26-2006, 05:39 AM.

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  • Avoklex
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    This is the first guide I have ever come across that takes GS all the way to 100. I am going to rep u up! ^^

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  • Hamlet
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    only one ashman and two freelance , yes . its boring ._. but i dunno , gold is really fun at the higher lvls , don't quit easily
    I actually tried a couple more times, and the droprate wasn't nearly as bad (still not good, but considering the alternative, I'll take it). I haven't had much luck actually skilling up yet with the ingots (got .1 with 7 I think, getting me to 67- btw I was higher than I thought).

    Fights go quicker with some melee gear, and it's also one of the main reasons I'm trying to get joyeuse and the quested WS.

    It'll take awhile, as I'm currently lvling war, and then lvling nin, for soloing other stuff, and I want to get joyeuse and the WS before going back, but all in all it's a great idea and I appreciate it greatly as before this I was totally stumped on how to get to 70.

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  • Kiraa
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    Yea its hard to make a guide for all servers unless all materials are npc buyable ;-; so i just tried to make it based on my server and who find it handy for him then he'd do it , i'm still not 100 ._.
    99.6 and not getting skill up at all lol but at least , lv74 rings here are 300-600k profit so i'm not losing anything while skilling

    and yes gold ingots here used to be profit but now its just same price as making , reason is every GS group has a gold lv52 and farm gold orc masks 24/7 for desynth , not to mention moblins desynth so yea :x think it happened on all servers not just here

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  • Aeni
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    Kiraa's guide is okay but that's for Ragnarok server. Nice guide ^^ The gold ingots are insane here. You lose so much money buying coins and ores to get ingots because they're so overpriced. Reason why Gold Ingot sells for so low is that people have found alternative ways to extract gold ingots and such an influx in farming for materials to get it have caused issues with other people trying to get coffer keys and what have you.

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  • Impaction
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    Depending on your level you can run around Yughott Grotto farming ore, and killing orcs for fire crystals, which can be almost a cost free start. It can even be profitable if you find rare ores.

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  • Kiraa
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    Originally posted by Hamlet
    Thanks for this guide. I especially like the Moblumin Sheet idea, as anything I can farm and offset losses is greatly appreciated. One question, the guide says do these from 67-69. Is there anyway I can start them earlier and do them instead of the petas? I remember trying the petas and they were annoying.

    Also, the next recipe I can't do because I think I have 20 smithing and no alchemy. Is there another reason to lvl alchemy besides just wanting to do this single recipe? (i.e. could I possibly make money with 45 alchemy? Otherwise, I'll have to do something else I guess)
    sorry i just noticed the questions

    u can start making them from 64 which is 5 lvls under reciepe cap , so you can get skill up even if break but i really doubt u'll be ok with this because it would take forever to skill up with that unless u're ok with long waiting

    about the reciepe after it , you have no option but to do it , lvl ur smithing and alchemy i'm sure they are no loss to get to that lvl , if you don't do it you'll have to do reciepes that require gold ingot per synth and u'll npc the result for 1-5k which means u'll lose a gold ingot per synth

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    Originally posted by Hamlet
    Ok, I'm giving up on this idea, and on goldsmithing, again, for awhile. I ended up with one ingot after killing maybe 15 of these guys (ashman and the two freelancers). It just isn't worth it. I subbed thf for th1. I'm thinking the only way you got this to work was to be a thief with th2 or 3.

    only one ashman and two freelance , yes . its boring ._. but i dunno , gold is really fun at the higher lvls , don't quit easily

    Double Post Edited:
    Originally posted by Jei
    you mentioned 30M post 60. How high should that be able to take you to? based on your server?
    73 to 80 is the hardest part in goldsmith , needs around 30 stack of gold ingots assuming u get 1/3 ~ 1/4 skill up
    if u pass this then its easy after that , just a matter of time

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    Originally posted by seq
    not a lose at all.... though Mythril ores are annoying (so rare 1500-2000Gil).
    Mythril ingots been 100K last time i checked, and Mythril rings each 18-20K
    do the math, you are making profit of about 20K ( if you didn't break any =P )

    currently Goldsmithing41.7 ^^ made my way from 0-41 using somepage.com's recipe list, and thanks for the guide. ^^
    @.@ yea its different from server to server , mythril ores here are always 1.5k kinda in Alzhabi area so its profit this way

    and just got gold 99.6 ._. at last gonna end , i made element rings from 94 to 99 because i was desperate about koeing pieces , each 400k loss per synth thanks to JPs who keep undercutting .
    Last edited by Kiraa; 06-07-2006, 12:23 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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  • seq
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    41-47 : Mythril Rings = mythril ingot x2 + fire crystal
    if u make ur own ingots from the the buying coins inviduals then u won't lose gil , but if buy the ingots from AH u'll lose around 4k per synth
    not a lose at all.... though Mythril ores are annoying (so rare 1500-2000Gil).
    Mythril ingots been 100K last time i checked, and Mythril rings each 18-20K
    do the math, you are making profit of about 20K ( if you didn't break any =P )

    currently Goldsmithing41.7 ^^ made my way from 0-41 using somepage.com's recipe list, and thanks for the guide. ^^

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