True Alchemy Guide 0-87

[Arkitan1]

Re: True Alchemy Guide 0-87

Apparently all of you, save LyonheartLakshmi, have their thumbs so far lodged up their asses.

This guide is not for the dumbass who buys their ingredients but farms them.

Am I the only one that can possibly do this or at the very least figure it out?

Thats why my apprentices and I have been able to utilize this and actually make some money on it.

Most of the crafts youve all suggested dont make any money at all and most dont stack!

Unstackable crafts just arent worth the time to craft.

Ark

[LyonheartLakshmi]

Re: True Alchemy Guide 0-87

Except the OP, of course, what with being a clueless RMT and all.

In all fairness, he was never an actual RMT. He's a wanna-be!

[Yellow Mage]

Re: True Alchemy Guide 0-87

Now I'm sure anyone here will be able to recognize just how bad that advice is without my explaining it.

Except the OP, of course, what with being a clueless RMT and all.

[Vyuru]

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Yeah, you all think my guide is crap.....yet, Ive had like 10+ apprentices, so I think I know WTF im doing!

So, basically you gave 10+ probably clueless apprentices crappy advice.

Sorry to say but you do not know what you are doing.


Let's put it this way.

I know a fellow who was big time into cooking, and taught alot of people how to get started into it, yet his advice for the most part was bad. For instance one of his recommendations was to make honey via the beehive chip recipe for skillups. Now I'm sure anyone here will be able to recognize just how bad that advice is without my explaining it.

This guide is much like that fellows advice, and alot of people have pointed it out to you. Might do well to listen to their advice.

[Arkitan1]

Re: True Alchemy Guide 0-87

Yeah, you all think my guide is crap.....yet, Ive had like 10+ apprentices, so I think I know WTF im doing!

Thank you,

Ark

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: True Alchemy Guide 0-87

After I saw this post:



I really could've cared less if any of the syntheses were appropriate.

Yeah, when I saw the whole "praise me" bit I kinda just started laughing.

If your guide is good, you don't have to beat people over the head with it.

[Durahansolo]

Re: True Alchemy Guide 0-87

Bees rarely drop a Giant Stinger, it will take a long time to acquire the needed amounts even with TH. Yellow Globes can rarely be bought, they are not restocked in any of the shops. They will only be there if players have sold the fish to the shop.

So true. I would farm alot of bees for honey/beehive chips so i could make echo drops and I know for a fact that I'd get about 6 stacks of beehive chips and 2-3 stacks of honey and maybe 1-2 Giant Stingers. They are extremely rare and that was with TH1.

[Sabaron]

Re: True Alchemy Guide 0-87

After I saw this post:

And yet no praise for my hard ass work! =/

I really could've cared less if any of the syntheses were appropriate.

[Vyuru]

Re: True Alchemy Guide 0-87

I have 4 skills 60+ so im just going off of my own experience and this guide is not for the dumbass who decides to buy the ingredients but it is for the crafter that farms their ingredients.

In that case this guide is even worse if you're expecting people to farm up every single ingredient. I don't have anything against people farming up their ingredients where they can for their skillups, it's what I recommend people do. However you have to be smart about it and choose your skillup synths carefully. For example, your Blinding Potion > Blind Bolt Heads is foolish. The items take too long to obtain through farming and frankly the total cost in time and money is too much to make a Blinding Potion and then use it in another skillup synth.

Comments are two of the synths in particular:

9-11/12
Poison Dust Alchemy (11) (12)
Lightning Crystal + Giant Stinger (11)
Lightning Crystal + Yellow Globe (12)
Giant Stingers from bees, globes can be fished or bought, very cheap

Bees rarely drop a Giant Stinger, it will take a long time to acquire the needed amounts even with TH. Yellow Globes can rarely be bought, they are not restocked in any of the shops. They will only be there if players have sold the fish to the shop.

31-38
Bronze Bullet (38) Smithing (13)
Fire Crystal + Bronze Ingot x1 + Firesand x1
Bronze Ingots can be bought for near nothing at guild as mentioned before, and firesand can be bought at the guild or crafted

You neglected to mention that one piece of Firesand can be bought from the guild for a minimum of 3,360, thus being better to make your own or use another synth.

You neglect....... 9 to 10 up to level 40 alone that are easily farmed alternatives that are either far easier to obtain than what you have listed, or else actually have a chance of selling, or at least NPC well.

To be fair, the last 5 synths look pretty decent and probably what I'd do, although you do neglect to mention a few alternatives. But with a few exceptions, just about everything pre 61 you have needs to be reworked. There are better skillup synths in the 0-61 range.

[Nuriko]

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You know, if you can make a profit skilling up with a given recipe by buying ingredients ... why WOULDN'T you?

As for the rest, I don't know that I can call you anything worse than what you've already described yourself as ... at this point, nobody takes you terribly seriously.

[Sabaron]

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Well normally if you raise your woodworking with this skill, you can make ice arrows to sell, duh

I really wish you would get the hell off of the "wax sword" crap, I was just using that as an old example.

I have 4 skills 60+ so im just going off of my own experience and this guide is not for the dumbass who decides to buy the ingredients but it is for the crafter that farms their ingredients.

I never said I was a gilseller, I said I wanted to be 6-7 years ago when it was worth it, it isnt now, sorry.

As for my last alchemy levels, as soon as I map it out, Ill revise, Im intending on crafting every item in alchemy eventually and need to raise the other crafts to 60 before I can do that.

Oh, and for our dear friend, "Sabaron", please go $%&$* off, dumbass.

Thank you,

Ark

You're welcome.

[Arkitan1]

Re: True Alchemy Guide 0-87

Well normally if you raise your woodworking with this skill, you can make ice arrows to sell, duh

I really wish you would get the hell off of the "wax sword" crap, I was just using that as an old example.

I have 4 skills 60+ so im just going off of my own experience and this guide is not for the dumbass who decides to buy the ingredients but it is for the crafter that farms their ingredients.

I never said I was a gilseller, I said I wanted to be 6-7 years ago when it was worth it, it isnt now, sorry.

As for my last alchemy levels, as soon as I map it out, Ill revise, Im intending on crafting every item in alchemy eventually and need to raise the other crafts to 60 before I can do that.

Oh, and for our dear friend, "Sabaron", please go $%&$* off, dumbass.

Thank you,

Ark

[Durahansolo]

Re: True Alchemy Guide 0-87

This is the way I would possibly go now if I was gonna level alchemy again.

Things to know: Make sure you level smithing to 14ish before trying any of the bolt heads. If you get lucky you can get the bronze ingots from the guild pretty cheap at times.

I would definently not think about doing beeswax for the simple reason that beeswax is a waste of gil and beehive chips unless you can HQ them.

All recipe ingredients aren't listed since this technically isn't a guide. They can all be found here http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Ca..._Recipes#11-20

Tsurara 0-6 You can farm the ice crystals in Beaucedine Glacier or Xarcabard if you have a high enough job, if not they aren't horribly expensive. Rock salt isn't expensive and neither are the 2 waters you need.

Corn Starch 6-9 I do not remember this recipe back when I was leveling but I must've missed it because I definently would've done it lol. I think I did deodorizers instead. Millioncorn x2 and either farm the lightning crystals or buy them. Lightning Crystals are about the only possible expensive thing in this recipe.

Mercury 9-16 Cobalt Jellyfish x4. I bought the jellies from Bibiki Bay and sometimes if nobody buys them that day, you can get them extremely cheap like 24g each.

Poison Potion 16-18 Reuse the Mercury you made and buy the poison dust from the gobbie in Jeuno.

Echo Drops 18-20 Spellcasters need them so they go pretty good at the AH. Farm the honey and find a friend with high cooking to try to HQ some beehive chips into Honey for the recipe. Either buy the sage from the alchemy guild or the regional merchant.

Blinding Potion 20-26 Crying Mustard from a vendor, farm the sleepshrooms, and buy the Poison Flour from jeuno gobbie.

Blind Bolt Heads 26-31 Ahhh Yes!! Bolt heads.....If only you had a woodworking mule to do something about those :-).

Potion 31-40 Yep I was crazy for doing it, but for some reason I didn't think Prism Powder was a good idea. I'd probably do Prism Powder now though or at least think about it.

Holy Water 40-51 One of my favorite recipes in the game, light crystals could be farmed if the weather is in your favor, but they aren't impossibly expensive like they used to be. And Distilled water....well cheap.

Holy Bolt Heads 51-53 lol might as well.
OR
Sleeping Potion 51-56 Pretty sure I did this one. Buy Chamomile from vendor, Poison Flour from gobbie, and farm the sleepshrooms in Jugner. (Hold on to those)

Venom Dust 56-60 Well apparently the ogre eels cost 505 each at the guild according to ffxiclopedia, could've sworn they were cheaper than that. (Keep these)

Sleep Bolt Heads 60-65 (67) Bronze ingots from the guild or make your own. Dunno if you know it or not but now you should have almost a 50% HQ rate on Animal Glue so go for it. And you also have the sleep potions left over from earlier.

Venom Potion 65-68 (68) Make or buy some mercury. You'll have your Venom Dust from earlier. (Save These)

Venom Bolt Heads 68~(76) Make the Animal glue, buy the ingots from the guild, use the venom potions. I put the ~ in so you can stop at any time before 76. At around 71 I started Bloody Bolt Heads.

Bloody Bolt Heads 71-81 Either farm the Beastman Blood or buy it (I don't have high TH so it drops rarely for me unless I can get the main farming area.) Buy The revival tree roots. Buy the ingots from the guild.

I stopped at 81 and that's as high as I plan on taking it for now.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Ice Arrowheads?

Was that for lulz?

I'm not much of a crafter, but I am a RNG, you only buy elemental arrows if you want something better than Scorpion Arrows, Bodkins aren't available and you can't use Demon Arrows yet.

Otherwise, elemental arrows suck. RNGs more than likely wouldn't buy them, thus woodcrafters wouldn't buy Ice Arrowheads to make them.

[Sabaron]

Re: True Alchemy Guide 0-87

Ice Arrowheads (57)

Yes, that was one of my favorites.