[Tsrwedge]

Just to make sure I've alienated everyone here, Tir, there were a couple of things you could have done differently to produce more constructive replies sooner:

• Don't say you've found a new ???, especially in an area that's been around for more than five years, even if you really think it is new. More cynical posters (read: most of us) will think you think we're about as observant as the poor sap that tripped the claymore mine. Instead, say there's a ??? you have not seen before. If it is new, that conclusion will be reached fairly quickly by the folks responding.
• Tell us what you did to find out the answer on your own - without being prompted to do so. This includes everywhere you searched, and preferably what queries you used. (If those searches don't include ffxi.wikia.com (or some equivalent) and Google, you haven't looked hard enough.) It shows that you actually care about your question. It also shows you value our time - nobody likes having their time wasted. If someone who didn't know the answer but knew the resources better than you wanted to help, it's nice not to go down the same dead-ends twice.
• Nobody owes you an answer. We generally do give answers, but we aren't bound to. Acting enraged, insulted, etc., when you don't get answers won't help.

You might consider giving this a read: How To Ask Questions The Smart Way. It was written for people asking questions about open-source software, but most of it is relevant for this too. That should actually pretty much be required reading for anyone asking questions on the internet.

[Alkisti]

Originally Posted by Theyaden

1st 2 posts after he asked nicely he got sniped at. I can understand there being annoyance. Febas post while curt was at least useful indicating the wiki site and what kind of nm, but etickets post "/facepalm" had no value other than demonstraiting a lack of courtesy.

/Agreed

[Murphie]

/disagreed

[eticket109]

Originally Posted by Tsrwedge

Just to make sure I've alienated everyone here, Tir, there were a couple of things you could have done differently to produce more constructive replies sooner:

• Don't say you've found a new ???, especially in an area that's been around for more than five years, even if you really think it is new. More cynical posters (read: most of us) will think you think we're about as observant as the poor sap that tripped the claymore mine. Instead, say there's a ??? you have not seen before. If it is new, that conclusion will be reached fairly quickly by the folks responding.
• Tell us what you did to find out the answer on your own - without being prompted to do so. This includes everywhere you searched, and preferably what queries you used. (If those searches don't include ffxi.wikia.com (or some equivalent) and Google, you haven't looked hard enough.) It shows that you actually care about your question. It also shows you value our time - nobody likes having their time wasted. If someone who didn't know the answer but knew the resources better than you wanted to help, it's nice not to go down the same dead-ends twice.
• Nobody owes you an answer. We generally do give answers, but we aren't bound to. Acting enraged, insulted, etc., when you don't get answers won't help.

You might consider giving this a read: How To Ask Questions The Smart Way. It was written for people asking questions about open-source software, but most of it is relevant for this too. That should actually pretty much be required reading for anyone asking questions on the internet.

I couldn't have said it any better myself, especially since I'm working and didn't feel like putting the effort in.

[Feba]

Originally Posted by Murphie

/disagreed

I knew it! You are a contrarian!

[Murphie]

Originally Posted by Feba

I knew it! You are a contrarian!

Only with regard to things I disagree with!

[Eiyoko]

To answer the initial question...

The ??? in question will spawn a Goblin Archaeologist. You can only trade him items once per day I believe, and he will spawn with a level identical to the one that spawned him (I think), and he can be tough if you're not prepared.

As for drops, it's mostly random stuff as far as I know.

[Murphie]

Originally Posted by Eiyoko

To answer the initial question...

Which was already answered on the first page. Thus rendering your ellipses ridiculous. Not to be confused with Ellipses, who is awesome.

[Eiyoko]

Originally Posted by Murphie

Which was already answered on the first page. Thus rendering your ellipses ridiculous.

/oops

[Icemage]

I'll take "Question Answered" with the bonus modifier of "Next Time I See Someone Offering Snide Comments On Honest Questions I'm Handing Out Infractions", Alex.

Topic closed.


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