01-24-2008, 02:34 PM | #16 (permalink) | | SIGSEGV Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Texas / Remora Posts: 271 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 108 Thanked 65x in 39 Posts Gil: 7,830 Bank: 48,581 Total Gil: 56,411 Donate | Re: A new ??? in Theine Just to make sure I've alienated everyone here, Tir, there were a couple of things you could have done differently to produce more constructive replies sooner: - Don't say you've found a new ???, especially in an area that's been around for more than five years, even if you really think it is new. More cynical posters (read: most of us) will think you think we're about as observant as the poor sap that tripped the claymore mine. Instead, say there's a ??? you have not seen before. If it is new, that conclusion will be reached fairly quickly by the folks responding.
- Tell us what you did to find out the answer on your own - without being prompted to do so. This includes everywhere you searched, and preferably what queries you used. (If those searches don't include ffxi.wikia.com (or some equivalent) and Google, you haven't looked hard enough.) It shows that you actually care about your question. It also shows you value our time - nobody likes having their time wasted. If someone who didn't know the answer but knew the resources better than you wanted to help, it's nice not to go down the same dead-ends twice.
- Nobody owes you an answer. We generally do give answers, but we aren't bound to. Acting enraged, insulted, etc., when you don't get answers won't help.
You might consider giving this a read: How To Ask Questions The Smart Way. It was written for people asking questions about open-source software, but most of it is relevant for this too. That should actually pretty much be required reading for anyone asking questions on the internet. Wii Number - 2810 2423 4673 3261 - Please PM me if you add me!
How to ask smart questions: catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Boom! (On SCH75/RDM) | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Tsrwedge For This Useful Post: | | | 01-24-2008, 02:39 PM | #17 (permalink) | | Oh My... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: United Kingdon. Posts: 44 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 4 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 3,707 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,707 Donate | Re: A new ??? in Theine Originally Posted by Theyaden | | 1st 2 posts after he asked nicely he got sniped at. I can understand there being annoyance. Febas post while curt was at least useful indicating the wiki site and what kind of nm, but etickets post "/facepalm" had no value other than demonstraiting a lack of courtesy. | /Agreed Name: Alkisti Server: Hades LinkShell: AngelKnights Nation: Windurst Jobs: 18 WHM/ 19BLM Nation Ranks: Windurst 2. Bastok 1. San d'Oria 1. Blog: Coming Soon. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-24-2008, 03:02 PM | #18 (permalink) | | Loaded With Sodium Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,964 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 448 Thanked 1,591x in 1,001 Posts Gil: 5,147 Bank: 35,221 Total Gil: 40,367 Donate | Re: A new ??? in Theine /disagreed | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Murphie for above post: | | | 01-24-2008, 03:14 PM | #19 (permalink) | | Pointy Stick Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,033 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 465 Thanked 367x in 228 Posts Gil: 20,442 Bank: 84,129 Total Gil: 104,571 Donate | Re: A new ??? in Theine Originally Posted by Tsrwedge | Just to make sure I've alienated everyone here, Tir, there were a couple of things you could have done differently to produce more constructive replies sooner:- Don't say you've found a new ???, especially in an area that's been around for more than five years, even if you really think it is new. More cynical posters (read: most of us) will think you think we're about as observant as the poor sap that tripped the claymore mine. Instead, say there's a ??? you have not seen before. If it is new, that conclusion will be reached fairly quickly by the folks responding.
- Tell us what you did to find out the answer on your own - without being prompted to do so. This includes everywhere you searched, and preferably what queries you used. (If those searches don't include ffxi.wikia.com (or some equivalent) and Google, you haven't looked hard enough.) It shows that you actually care about your question. It also shows you value our time - nobody likes having their time wasted. If someone who didn't know the answer but knew the resources better than you wanted to help, it's nice not to go down the same dead-ends twice.
- Nobody owes you an answer. We generally do give answers, but we aren't bound to. Acting enraged, insulted, etc., when you don't get answers won't help.
You might consider giving this a read: How To Ask Questions The Smart Way. It was written for people asking questions about open-source software, but most of it is relevant for this too. That should actually pretty much be required reading for anyone asking questions on the internet. | I couldn't have said it any better myself, especially since I'm working and didn't feel like putting the effort in.
Wii code: 6851 9579 6989 9039 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-24-2008, 06:04 PM | #20 (permalink) | | RANK 5 IS BULLSHIT! Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,038 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1,740 Thanked 1,631x in 1,135 Posts Gil: 8,676 Bank: 963,948 Total Gil: 972,623 Donate | Re: A new ??? in Theine Originally Posted by Murphie | | /disagreed | I knew it! You are a contrarian! | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-24-2008, 06:19 PM | #21 (permalink) | | Loaded With Sodium Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,964 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 448 Thanked 1,591x in 1,001 Posts Gil: 5,147 Bank: 35,221 Total Gil: 40,367 Donate | Re: A new ??? in Theine Originally Posted by Feba | | I knew it! You are a contrarian! | Only with regard to things I disagree with! | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Murphie for above post: | | | 01-24-2008, 06:45 PM | #22 (permalink) | | The Storyteller Join Date: May 2005 Location: Over There Posts: 298 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 246 Thanked 37x in 29 Posts Gil: 22,728 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 22,728 Donate | Re: A new ??? in Theine To answer the initial question...
The ??? in question will spawn a Goblin Archaeologist. You can only trade him items once per day I believe, and he will spawn with a level identical to the one that spawned him (I think), and he can be tough if you're not prepared.
As for drops, it's mostly random stuff as far as I know.  Insert spiffy signature here | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-24-2008, 06:46 PM | #23 (permalink) | | Loaded With Sodium Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,964 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 448 Thanked 1,591x in 1,001 Posts Gil: 5,147 Bank: 35,221 Total Gil: 40,367 Donate | Re: A new ??? in Theine Originally Posted by Eiyoko | | To answer the initial question... | Which was already answered on the first page. Thus rendering your ellipses ridiculous. Not to be confused with Ellipses, who is awesome. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Murphie for above post: | | | 01-24-2008, 07:19 PM | #24 (permalink) | | The Storyteller Join Date: May 2005 Location: Over There Posts: 298 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 246 Thanked 37x in 29 Posts Gil: 22,728 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 22,728 Donate | Re: A new ??? in Theine Originally Posted by Murphie | | Which was already answered on the first page. Thus rendering your ellipses ridiculous. | /oops  Insert spiffy signature here | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-24-2008, 09:47 PM | #25 (permalink) | | Digital Wizard Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 6,054 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 69 Thanked 478x in 316 Posts Gil: 1,278 Bank: 148,450 Total Gil: 149,728 Donate | Re: A new ??? in Theine I'll take "Question Answered" with the bonus modifier of "Next Time I See Someone Offering Snide Comments On Honest Questions I'm Handing Out Infractions", Alex.
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