How do you control Hate?

tomfin10 · 06-17-2003, 02:55 PM

I know what hate is and what it does, but how do you 'control' it? Thanks in advance! :spin:

Jei · 06-18-2003, 01:54 PM

hate is hate... ummm ...

we don't really control hate. We just try to control who the monster is attacking.
normally in a PT, the tanks will taunt the moneter.
mages heal the tanks, until 1 point the monster turns to attack mages.
when the tanks see that, they will try taunt again to keep the monster on them.

who the monster is turning to is determine by the hate level the monster has. hate is just a word the monster use not us. and there will be some case that the hate is too high to pull monster away from someone.

Cedric-Archaon · 06-18-2003, 02:34 PM

Regardless of what hate technically is, to explain it easily think of a point system. When you hit a monster for damage, you add certain points to that monster's hate towards you. Hate would be the agrression of the monster = attacking you or using special moves. The point of a tank is to try and keep the monster's hate towards them higher than the mages do. When a whm casts weakening spells, there is small hate, cure spells add tons. For fighters, they use damage dealing, and then skills to increase. Most tanks are either warrios with taunt, or a fighter class with warrior subjob. This gives them taunt which is a skill specifically designed to increase hate. Other job abilities also draw hate, but not as much as taunt.

I sorta rambled, but yeah, y ou get the point.

Aianai · 06-30-2003, 09:33 AM

If you're a caster don't nuke the crap out of it right of the bat...I get sooo sick of healing trigger happy mages that don't understand aggro. Let the melees beat on it a few times pleeeeease, don't be a black hole of MP. The MP I have to burn healing a mage that can't take a hit doesn't offset the amount of damage to the monster. H8 H8 H8 for overnuking mages.

06-17-2003, 02:55 PM	#1
tomfin10 Member Bronze Ribbon of Service Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Vana'diel Posts: 676 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2x in 2 Posts	How do you control Hate? I know what hate is and what it does, but how do you 'control' it? Thanks in advance! :spin:

06-18-2003, 01:54 PM	#2
Jei J...atatouille Super Moderator Wings of Honor Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 8,425 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 6 Thanked 177x in 120 Posts My Mood:	hate is hate... ummm ... we don't really control hate. We just try to control who the monster is attacking. normally in a PT, the tanks will taunt the moneter. mages heal the tanks, until 1 point the monster turns to attack mages. when the tanks see that, they will try taunt again to keep the monster on them. who the monster is turning to is determine by the hate level the monster has. hate is just a word the monster use not us. and there will be some case that the hate is too high to pull monster away from someone. __________________ There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot, but there are others who with the help of their art and their intelligence transform a yellow spot into the sun. - Pablo Picasso

06-18-2003, 02:34 PM	#3
Cedric-Archaon Member Bronze Ribbon of Service Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 599 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	Regardless of what hate technically is, to explain it easily think of a point system. When you hit a monster for damage, you add certain points to that monster's hate towards you. Hate would be the agrression of the monster = attacking you or using special moves. The point of a tank is to try and keep the monster's hate towards them higher than the mages do. When a whm casts weakening spells, there is small hate, cure spells add tons. For fighters, they use damage dealing, and then skills to increase. Most tanks are either warrios with taunt, or a fighter class with warrior subjob. This gives them taunt which is a skill specifically designed to increase hate. Other job abilities also draw hate, but not as much as taunt. I sorta rambled, but yeah, y ou get the point. __________________ Squirming through cuts in a throat cut it...cut it... Cedric - WHM63/ PLD52/ MNK43/ BLM31/ WAR27/ THF16/ BST13/ SMN10/ RDM05/ RNG05/ DRK05 Archaon - THF35/ WHM34/ RDM32/ BLM17/ MNK14/ NIN10/ BST10/ RNG06/ WAR05

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06-30-2003, 09:33 AM	#4
Aianai Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	If you're a caster don't nuke the crap out of it right of the bat...I get sooo sick of healing trigger happy mages that don't understand aggro. Let the melees beat on it a few times pleeeeease, don't be a black hole of MP. The MP I have to burn healing a mage that can't take a hit doesn't offset the amount of damage to the monster. H8 H8 H8 for overnuking mages.