07-10-2008, 11:43 AM | #1 (permalink) | | Dynamis Guru Join Date: May 2006 Location: Roe Dilund Posts: 586 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 267 Thanked 54x in 45 Posts Gil: 29,618 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 29,618 Donate | Light Grip (+ elemental grips in general!) I recently came into possession of this nifty item and I'm wondering if anyone else has one yet. From what I've already experienced it's a great addition when casting Repose (or BRD Lullaby and Requiem for that matter). I'm gonna be testing it out for various uses - increases in Cure, Flash and Dia potency, maybe even extra damage for Banish and Holy. Olorin - Ramuh Server WHM75 BRD75 BLM75 RDM75 SMN39 SCH37 - TheAfterLife LS  Last edited by Olorin401 : 07-11-2008 at 09:07 AM. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-10-2008, 11:59 AM | #2 (permalink) | | Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chicago Suburbs Posts: 1,940 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 179 Thanked 497x in 293 Posts Gil: 6,945 Bank: 134,425 Total Gil: 141,370 Donate | Re: Light Grip Hint: It won't add damage to anything and you won't be able to tell an accuracy difference between that and a Raptor+1 for WHM, though for Lullaby/Req every bit helps and there's no strap with more CHR than 2, wouldn't hurt at all. Callisto of Ramuh - RDM / BRD / COR / PLD Putting the 'MP' in "Who the hell just MPK'd the whole alliance?!" since 2004. MogHouse LS: Sky/Sea/Dynamis/Limbus/Tacos www.moghousels.com! | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-10-2008, 12:25 PM | #3 (permalink) | | King of the Oompa Loompas Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,410 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 10 Thanked 124x in 100 Posts Gil: 31,659 Bank: 73,047 Total Gil: 104,707 Donate | Re: Light Grip I'm going to save the inventory space for my black mage and not get any of these grips. lol
But Callisto's right on par with that. Really good for bard at least. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-11-2008, 02:13 AM | #4 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 983 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 7 Thanked 54x in 30 Posts Gil: 3,076 Bank: 20,437 Total Gil: 23,513 Donate | Re: Light Grip In my opinion, the elemental grips are much better for RDM sticking enfeebling spells than anything else. Light Grip is good to macro in for Repose, but little else. Dia will always stick no matter what, you never will be using Holy or Banish spells in situations where you need to stack Magic Accuracy in order to land it unresisted, and it won't affect your Cures except when you're using them to damage undead. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-11-2008, 05:38 AM | #5 (permalink) | | Pink Mage Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bastok/Illinois Posts: 1,579 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 154 Thanked 182x in 120 Posts Gil: 20,385 Bank: 93,879 Total Gil: 114,264 Donate | Re: Light Grip ...unless it has hidden effects. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-11-2008, 06:36 AM | #6 (permalink) | | Timotei! Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 278 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 72 Thanked 29x in 20 Posts Gil: 4,870 Bank: 39,992 Total Gil: 44,862 Donate | Re: Light Grip Would they be useful for macroing on for enfeebs? I've noticed that mine stick a heck of a lot more often after I started macroing in elemental staves for Slow, Paralyze and Silence even without using Light Arts from /SCH. Would the bonus from the grips effect these at all?  Current uncritted damage record: 3210HP. I hate Mamool Ja Savages. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-11-2008, 07:51 AM | #7 (permalink) | | Altanaの戦士 Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Fenrir Server Posts: 2,827 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 133 Thanked 324x in 208 Posts Gil: 189 Bank: 121,700 Total Gil: 121,889 Donate | Re: Light Grip /
I have a question:
Why didn't SE add a single gríp with Magic Acc +2 instead?
Is it some kind of sick saddist attempt to see who would be dumb enough to carry a whole set of them along with the full set of staves?
Ok those were 2 questions but it also makes me wonder why they added Reprise as a spell even though it works exactly like a JA.  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-11-2008, 08:22 AM | #8 (permalink) | | Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chicago Suburbs Posts: 1,940 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 179 Thanked 497x in 293 Posts Gil: 6,945 Bank: 134,425 Total Gil: 141,370 Donate | Re: Light Grip I would assume that they actually don't want someone to be able to carry full on gear for every function as well as full HQ staves + Ele grips, trying to make players sort of limit their choices. Believe it or not, I think that S-E does not in fact want every mage to be an invincible super-mage.
As far as the grips themselves, I've used enough straight MAcc gear on RDM to know that the +2 won't really be that noticeable on a normal mage, but may be moreso on BRD since those formulas work a bit differently. I prefer to keep my Raptor +1, because if I'm not going to see a noticeable increase in MAcc I want to max my potency, and of course there's the inventory concerns to boot.
______________________________ Originally Posted by Firewind | | Would they be useful for macroing on for enfeebs? I've noticed that mine stick a heck of a lot more often after I started macroing in elemental staves for Slow, Paralyze and Silence even without using Light Arts from /SCH. Would the bonus from the grips effect these at all? | Theoretically yes, but keep in mind the accuracy boost from elemental staves is a lot more than +2. The grips would be more accurate, but only slightly, which is why I prefer to keep the MND in that slot. Callisto of Ramuh - RDM / BRD / COR / PLD Putting the 'MP' in "Who the hell just MPK'd the whole alliance?!" since 2004. MogHouse LS: Sky/Sea/Dynamis/Limbus/Tacos www.moghousels.com! Last edited by Callisto : 07-11-2008 at 08:24 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-11-2008, 08:41 AM | #9 (permalink) | | Altanaの戦士 Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Fenrir Server Posts: 2,827 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 133 Thanked 324x in 208 Posts Gil: 189 Bank: 121,700 Total Gil: 121,889 Donate | Re: Light Grip ...unless they have hidden stats.
jk  Yeah for MND based spells Raptor already gives you +M.Acc and you also get some +MP from it.
Sadly I'll probably get Dark, Wind, Light and Ice grips eventually unless they add a Raptor grip with INT instead, as the Bugard +1 isn't worth the space.  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-11-2008, 08:45 AM | #10 (permalink) | | Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chicago Suburbs Posts: 1,940 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 179 Thanked 497x in 293 Posts Gil: 6,945 Bank: 134,425 Total Gil: 141,370 Donate | Re: Light Grip I still intend to at least try an Earth Grip for Slow on gods and such, as well as a Dark Grip since there's not much else out there for Drain/Aspir. Wind is kind of meh to me, in terms of Silence as a RDM anything that you can't land it on with Auster's you probably can't land it on with Auster's + Wind Grip. Callisto of Ramuh - RDM / BRD / COR / PLD Putting the 'MP' in "Who the hell just MPK'd the whole alliance?!" since 2004. MogHouse LS: Sky/Sea/Dynamis/Limbus/Tacos www.moghousels.com! | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-03-2008, 11:06 PM | #11 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 8 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 2,322 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,322 Donate | Re: Light Grip I accidentally come across this grip thing people has been mentioning and it can be used for Bard. Am Bard Lv. 63 atm. What is this thing called grips ? and how do i use them or equip them or even get them ? sorry to be a bit of a noob especially considering am lv. 63 already.... Lol. Any inputs are highly appreciated. Thank you for your time. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:54 AM. | | |