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Old 06-30-2008, 01:27 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Re: Where Did The Real Mages Go?
I was under the impresson that Haste didn't affect ranged attacks. I'm not completely familiar with Corsairs, but since they're on JA timers for rolls, wouldn't those also not be affected by Haste?

Please correct me if I'm wrong. I don't do much partying with Corsairs and maybe there's something I'm missing.



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Old 06-30-2008, 01:30 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Re: Where Did The Real Mages Go?
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I was under the impresson that Haste didn't affect ranged attacks. I'm not completely familiar with Corsairs, but since they're on JA timers for rolls, wouldn't those also not be affected by Haste?

Please correct me if I'm wrong. I don't do much partying with Corsairs and maybe there's something I'm missing.
Haste doesn't affect ranged attacks, that's correct...however the standard for good CORs is meleeing for TP with a Joyeuse. Just watch what they're doing, if they're shooting for TP you're fine, if they're swinging for it then Haste them.

And yeah, I've been hasted as COR in one party. Ever.



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Old 06-30-2008, 01:32 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Ahh, okay then. I haste anyone who hits the mob. Unless it's another RDM or a BRD or something else that shouldn't be meleeing.



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Old 06-30-2008, 02:08 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Re: Where Did The Real Mages Go?
:O Blasphemer!

I'll have you know I have a very nice melee BRD set. Even better once I get N.Hands uncursed! I need a Blau, lol.



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Old 06-30-2008, 02:41 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Bards are too busy to melee in merit parties. If they're not too busy, they're doing it wrong.



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Old 06-30-2008, 02:44 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Re: Where Did The Real Mages Go?
I don't even remember the last time i partied with a COR. If s/he was meleeing, then sure, Haste away.



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Re: Where Did The Real Mages Go?
So far, (49 WHM as main) I prefer having a PLD, because I get to exercise XD

I love the way my mind wanders while having PLD in an exp party:

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Haste doesn't affect ranged attacks, that's correct...however the standard for good CORs is meleeing for TP with a Joyeuse. Just watch what they're doing, if they're shooting for TP you're fine, if they're swinging for it then Haste them.

And yeah, I've been hasted as COR in one party. Ever.
I swear I always get hasted in Campaign, yet its very hit-or-miss in EXP/merit PTs.

And yet when I'm on RNG, I somehow always get haste in EXP/merit, even though I never melee and its all ranged attacks. I wouldn't argue if I had a KC or Ridill, but Haste ain't doin' nothing for me there otherwise.





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I miss the old days of FFXI before Aht Urgan. It is probably not to much the expansion itself, but the fact that the expansion promoted a certain mentality that has spread like wildfire. It's not just with FFXI though, a lot of MMOs are like this now... I have almost given up on online games all together.

Remember when people would be willing to try just about any party setup, or go to just about any camp? When people would group up because it was fun, not because they had to? When people would help you out because they wanted to, not because they needed to guilt-trip you into helping them with their mission?

I miss those days...



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Re: Where Did The Real Mages Go?
Neomage: I used to miss those days. Every time I do I remember how WARs would show up with a sword and shield, THFs would melee DEX rings, people would perpetually train the same gob in Yhoator Jungle over and over again, and everyone overhunted even more so than they do now. General stupidity all around. Then I don't miss them quite so much =P

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I miss the old days of FFXI before Aht Urgan. It is probably not to much the expansion itself, but the fact that the expansion promoted a certain mentality that has spread like wildfire. It's not just with FFXI though, a lot of MMOs are like this now... I have almost given up on online games all together.

Remember when people would be willing to try just about any party setup, or go to just about any camp? When people would group up because it was fun, not because they had to? When people would help you out because they wanted to, not because they needed to guilt-trip you into helping them with their mission?

I miss those days...
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Neomage: I used to miss those days. Every time I do I remember how WARs would show up with a sword and shield, THFs would melee DEX rings, people would perpetually train the same gob in Yhoator Jungle over and over again, and everyone overhunted even more so than they do now. General stupidity all around. Then I don't miss them quite so much =P

But I do miss the SCs and MBs.
Warriors still show up with swords and shields, and in some rare cases, a spear. Then just tend to be so annoying and idiotic in general you forget about what weapon they are using. And don't even talk to me about overhunting. Two words: Caedarva Mire. Moon was NEVER that crowded.



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The game was way more fun back then, people would actually care about mobs running around near them and even make alliances to kill the gob by the gate to Khazam.

Now it seems no one can play without a calculator and a parser. "ZOMG my dps dropped .1!!" yeah, fun times.



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