06-14-2007, 01:50 AM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 15 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,672 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,672 Donate | Whm Damage Dealer? I was recently looking up White Mage equipment and noticed we have alot of equipment which could be used to boost STR ACC and attack so i decided to make a WHM DD setup. Heres what i got: Job: WHM/NIN 1st Weapon: Sea Robber Cudgel 2nd Weapon: Seawolf Cudgel Head: Optical Hat Body: Reverend Mail Back: Royal Army Mantle Neck: Peacock Charm Hands: Blessed Mitts (Healer’s Mitts for WS) Waist: Potent Belt Ear 1: Triumph Earring Ear 2: Triumph Earring Ring 1:Woodsman/Sniper Ring 2: Woodsman/Sniper Legs: Blessed Trousers Feet: Blessed Pumps Stats: Strength+17, Accuracy+58, Attack+10 If you have any better ideas for equipment which could be used in a slot feel free to suggest it! Plus are there any situations this setup could be used? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-14-2007, 02:19 AM | #2 (permalink) | | Psycho Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: UK, Wales Posts: 414 Style: Dark - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 8 Thanked 14x in 14 Posts Gil: 2,483 Bank: 20,092 Total Gil: 22,575 Donate | Re: Whm Damage Dealer? no one will invite WHM to DD in a pickup PT but if your in a static and they say you try it, i sat give it a shot, you dont see RDM meleeing but we were made to melee and cast magic  Death shall seek you out, If death fails, I promise you, i wont. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-14-2007, 02:20 AM | #3 (permalink) | | Sticky Paws Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,892 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 237 Thanked 610x in 395 Posts Gil: 10,913 Bank: 126,476 Total Gil: 137,388 Donate | Re: Whm Damage Dealer? Imagine if you trio with this setup at Lv.75: THF, WHM, and DRG. - THF/NIN tanks (using SA for spike damage when someone else turns the monster).
- DRG/WHM cures via Healing Breath.
- WHM/BLM takes care of status effects, buffs, and enfeebs. Restore the party's MP via the Moonlight WS.
Everyone is a DD.  “ I’m in pain, but I’m happy.”
“ It hurts, but I can smile.”
“ That’s why I can tell you from the depths of my being…” | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-14-2007, 02:24 AM | #4 (permalink) | | Fence Sitter Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: UK Posts: 1,342 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 53 Thanked 90x in 68 Posts Gil: 4,123 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,123 Donate | Re: Whm Damage Dealer? Morgenstern (once latent is unlocked) is the best club. Originally Posted by Aksannyi | | "As a RDM, it should irk you to the depths of your soul when a mob had the audacity to buff itself in front of you." | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-14-2007, 04:25 AM | #5 (permalink) | | Dynamis Guru Join Date: May 2006 Location: Roe Dilund Posts: 583 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 265 Thanked 54x in 45 Posts Gil: 26,646 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 26,646 Donate | Re: Whm Damage Dealer? Olorin - Ramuh Server WHM75 BRD75 BLM75 RDM72 SMN39 SCH37 - TheAfterLife LS  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-18-2007, 11:40 AM | #6 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 447 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 24 Thanked 40x in 31 Posts Gil: 664 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 664 Donate | Re: Whm Damage Dealer? Originally Posted by Kirsteena | | Morgenstern (once latent is unlocked) is the best club. | and I'd probably use a brass jadagna or a purg mace as the second hand over the other cudgel (pick the one you need at the time) over dualing them, if you don't have a morgenstern.  Grant me wings so I may fly;
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Eternity Awaits. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-18-2007, 12:17 PM | #7 (permalink) | | Resident Forum Whore Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New York Posts: 1,313 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 2 Thanked 11x in 9 Posts Gil: 2,438 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,438 Donate | Re: Whm Damage Dealer? Would be better off with Suppanomimi and Brutal Earring as well if you have the option. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-18-2007, 12:27 PM | #8 (permalink) | | factcheck.org Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,919 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1,708 Thanked 1,545x in 1,079 Posts Gil: 13,569 Bank: 601,228 Total Gil: 614,798 Donate | Re: Whm Damage Dealer? I had a friend who was a melee WHM. WHM/NIN, they loaded up on haste EQ, they managed to actually cap out their haste, which also made them an awesome tank.
Mjollnr+Kraken Club is amazing to watch at work, especially if Mob TP isn't that big a deal. So many Hexa Strikes...
He actually managed to outparse very well equiped DRKs and THFs and other melees in the party, although these were on coffer mobs, and not in an EXP party. He did say that he'd only been outparsed once or twice in an EXP party though... by a THF who has Mandau (and other awesome equipment, another person I knew, although not as well as the WHM)
Of course, this was back in the day of sky weapons (where I'm pretty sure he switched to a Mogernstern or whatever in the off hand, although he was a damn fine melee in KRT too, because of all that blunt damage. I have no idea how well he's been keeping up since the release of TAU.
But to answer your question, yes, it is possible for a WHM to make a damn fine melee with the right equipment. Hammers, hammers, hammers! | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-18-2007, 01:29 PM | #9 (permalink) | | New Momma! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Japan Posts: 207 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 6 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 5,133 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 5,133 Donate | Re: Whm Damage Dealer? I tank in Skill up pts and other pts like when we go to find keys for people.
WHM/NIN @75 is a heavy DD. Shadows plus stoneskin and blink even helps alot. Only trouble I have is keeping my mp up. When I go in melee mode I go for no MP boosting equips but get equips that boost str, agil, & dex. I like to pretend I'm a fake NIN  .  → ☆白75☆黒37☆ ←
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Quit Since August '07 Good Luck Everyone | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-16-2007, 08:07 AM | #11 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 42 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3x in 3 Posts Gil: 1,067 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,067 Donate | Re: Whm Damage Dealer? Originally Posted by Krysta | I was recently looking up White Mage equipment and noticed we have alot of equipment which could be used to boost STR ACC and attack so i decided to make a WHM DD setup. Heres what i got: Job: WHM/NIN 1st Weapon: Sea Robber Cudgel 2nd Weapon: Seawolf Cudgel Head: Optical Hat Body: Reverend Mail Back: Royal Army Mantle Neck: Peacock Charm Hands: Blessed Mitts (Healer’s Mitts for WS) Waist: Potent Belt Ear 1: Triumph Earring Ear 2: Triumph Earring Ring 1:Woodsman/Sniper Ring 2: Woodsman/Sniper Legs: Blessed Trousers Feet: Blessed Pumps Stats: Strength+17, Accuracy+58, Attack+10 If you have any better ideas for equipment which could be used in a slot feel free to suggest it! Plus are there any situations this setup could be used? | The best use for this is in soloing. I would use /equip macros to swap it in when you're meleeing, and swap it out when you're not. Not sure what level you want to use this, but I'm assuming it's high level since you show Optical Hat (lvl70) and lvl68 weapons, even though your character info says whm39.
I really wouldn't try using this in an EXP party. Think of it this way.... Would you invite a War/Whm to be main healer in your party? Don't think so. Well, likewise, people aren't going to be looking for a DD WHM. Aside from the fact you won't get invites as a DD, you'll always be at a disadvantage. You'll always be lacking in Def, HP, Str, Dex, and Agi compared to the traditional DD's, although you can get around the lack of Def & HP by using stoneskin & utsusemi. Sure, you can boost your stats, but the real DDs will be boosting theirs too. Bottom line is, there are better DD's and those ones will get the invites.
However it is probably OK in something like an LS event, especially with with an alliance, where there are others to take care of healing. Another place where DD mages are readily acceptable is in skillup parties, particularly alliances. Even if your skill is capped, it can be alot of fun, and you'll get some EXP or Merits. I use Rdm/Nin for alot of soloing, and melee alot in LS events, but I would never expect to melee in an EXP party. This brings back a memory of doing a mission once, where the WHM was melee'ing instead of healing and people ended up dying. People were upset and some refused to do missions with him after that. So make sure the healing role is covered before trying to DD.
As for equipment suggestion, you might want to consider something like Ruby Rings instead of Woodsman or Sniper, so you don't lose Def or Eva. You might also want to seriously look at boosting Dex, since that is the stat that WHM lacks the most, when compared to DD's (compare War/Nin to Whm/Nin here: http://www.datasync.com/%7Edsmith/FFXIStats/ and you will see what I mean). Last edited by Draconi : 08-16-2007 at 12:02 PM. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-16-2007, 11:51 AM | #12 (permalink) | | Fan of Murphie Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Largo, FL Posts: 1,591 Style: Light - Version 5 Thanks: 101 Thanked 287x in 170 Posts Gil: 10,523 Bank: 56,917 Total Gil: 67,439 Donate | Re: Whm Damage Dealer? Originally Posted by Krysta | | Stats: Strength+17, Accuracy+58, Attack+10 | That doesn't sound like enough attack to me, especially if you're subbing NIN (which means no passive attack boost traits and no Berserk).
If you don't have Suppa/Brutal, then you could use two Merman's Earring (+6 attack each) for TP. Substitute Swordbelt +1 in place of Potent Belt, since you've got a good amount of acc. Those changes combined would bring you to: STR+10, Acc+50, Attack+34.
Since Club skill is B+ for WHM, you're probably going to be eating Sushi even with club merits. So losing a little bit of acc to get a good bit of attack is worth it. Lyonheart
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