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Old 05-08-2007, 01:42 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: Endgame exp / merit parties for WHM
for dragoon? it's relatively easy I think. (brutal + rune halberd latent would do it)

for paladin? not so much.

foods are +1%(maybe some 2%) with the exception of rice ball antics with shogun rice balls and the lvl70 all jobs jinpachi.

armor pieces pld can wear with +da:
5% brutal earring
2% Ares Flanchard
2% Askar Korazin
?% Ares Set Bonus. (would need to be at least a further +3% for pld to reach 10% DA)

I'm not sure there's any ares flanchard on any server period at this point, actually, although I could be wrong since at least all three drops for this piece are known (which is more than can be said about several other salvage pieces.)

and I'm sure there is no complete set yet.



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Old 05-08-2007, 01:51 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Re: Endgame exp / merit parties for WHM
DA stuff:

Brutal Earring: 5%
Askar Korazin: 2%
Ares Flanchard: 2%
Roshi Jinpachi+Tonosama Riceball: 1%, 2% if samurai while wearing AF hands+Jinpachi
Askar Korazin: 2%


I didn't realise that the Askar Korazin was a HNM drop in Nyzul, I just saw it was an assault drop and assumed it was obtained like the other assault gear, so dunno how likely that is to get.

Nero di Seppia grants 1% DA, but it's stats are not that great, it's mostly +hp and store TP+6.

And of course the full set of Ares armor boosts DA, but I don't know by how much.

In looking at it in more depth, the Roshi Jinpachi looks interesting, making Tonosama riceballs give +50att, +30 def, +1% DA, but I think I'd rather be a samurai using the AF hands to double those stats for +100att, +60def, +2%DA.

And I don't think it's so far off to be suggesting Ares armor here. Either you'll be doing endgame HNM stuff and be spending alot of time to get the gear from that, or you'll be doing Salvage and spending alot of time to get the gear from that.

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Forgot the Rune Halberd which adds another +5% DA. I don't think I'd use it though since it has a rather low damage threshold. The other pieces I listed above I feel could easily be used in exp parties, and are equipable by both drg and pld, as well as other jobs.





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Old 05-08-2007, 10:01 PM   #33 (permalink)
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And I don't think it's so far off to be suggesting Ares armor here. Either you'll be doing endgame HNM stuff and be spending alot of time to get the gear from that, or you'll be doing Salvage and spending alot of time to get the gear from that.
it isn't. but the nyzul piece is more obtainable.

like I said, I don't know of any pieces of ares flanchard anywhere. (although at least one exists since all three drops to make are confirmed)

the askar is ok, but homam body is probably better, and about the same difficulty to get

losing the head slot hurts alot for paladin, so the +1 da foods are probably out too

realistically, brutal + full ares is your best bet. but again. no full ares set *anywhere* yet.

it's a good list of the options for sure though! especially covering all the foods.

(there's a sushi that gives double attack too, I think.. tentacle?)
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Old 05-09-2007, 09:40 AM   #34 (permalink)
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(there's a sushi that gives double attack too, I think.. tentacle?)
Yeah, another thing I forgot to mention I forget the stats on it, +enmity I think, but that gives +1% DA as well.

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Depends, in looking at the Nyzul assault, I'd be guessing that each HNM drops a certain type of armor, or has a higher percentage chance of dropping a certain armor, gear slot dependant on floor it seems.

I haven't heard of any full Ares sets either, but I kinda wonder. I know of a couple of Dynamis LS who have either just one or no thiefs at all who complain about the drop rates. I'm wondering if few people bring thiefs along on Salvage runs.

But damn I want to get started on Salvage soon, the Ares armor is perfect for all the jobs I want to level (drg, war, pld, drk) and it is just godly for Gaxe using warriors since str/vit are important modifiers for alot of the WS. Plus the damage on a dragoon's jumps are slightly affected by Vit, so that is a rather nice, albiet small, boost.





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Lol you guys got soooo off topic lol.
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