[Nuriko]

Any job that can nuke can reasonably be thrown into the mix, I'd say. For that matter, ranged attacks might work too ... with archery and at the edge of your range.

[TheGrandMom]

Get a lvl 75 bst. Thats what happened for me when I needed mine. LOL Finally got a JP friend with lvl 75 bst and got my body. Totally amazed me what a bst could do.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Originally Posted by TheGrandMom

Get a lvl 75 bst. Thats what happened for me when I needed mine. LOL Finally got a JP friend with lvl 75 bst and got my body. Totally amazed me what a bst could do.

BST runs in where RDM fears to tread.

[Nuriko]

No, they let their PETS run in...

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Originally Posted by Nuriko

No, they let their PETS run in...

Can't have Beastmaster without the Beast.

[Armando]

Dimensional Death can be avoided by running (while not locked on to the mob obviously.) If you do this in first person view, you can still attack the mob and parry its attacks while you run away. If you fight the NM in a room where nothing will aggro, then the person attempting to solo/duo/whatever can run around in a large circle around the room and avoid a good number of Dimensional Deaths.

[Firewind]

Originally Posted by Kyleet

*tosses shovel aside* Pardon the necrobump~

My whm has hit 57 and I wanted to get this done before I dinged 58. I seriously hate bugging people on my flist so I was wondering if there was anyway I could duo this thing with the hubby.

At our disposal:
I has BRD75 and DRG75 with SAM, WHM, and WAR leveled to sub
He has RDM75 and BLM75 with DRK, WHM, WAR and gimpNIN (low 30s) to sub. (though by the time we get around to doing this it'll probably be fully subworthy)

I read on the wiki that a RDM75 with a 25NIN sub was able to solo him, though the fight took a really long time. I'm wondering if we have any shot at this with a combination of the jobs we have. And if so, what sort of strategy?

Have been muddling through some ideas myself, but the last time I fought this guy was in a huge alliance back in the day and I was just helping someone out. I'm wondering if he can be slept with lullaby, and just how resistant he is to stun (IE: could a BLM land stun on him with capped Dark Magic?) Could a DRG/SAM eat the DD spam with Seigan+3rd Eye up?

If only you didn't lose the bell if you lose, I wouldn't mind trial and error. Anyways, any thoughts? Can we do this with what we have? If so, how?

When I did this I was a 57WHM/SMN (was 58 but I died and lost my level due to getting too close to the AoE and RR1 left me something like 20 TNL) with a Lv75 Taru RDM/NIN to help. The fight was very, very hard and It did take at least 20 minutes, probably more due to the RDM having to kite the NM during the DD spam and again when it used manafont but after seeing that I would say it's prefectly possible for a RDM/NIN to solo it especially with the use of Chainspell.

Basically it went something like buff up, clear the room of Shadows and full rest. I pop the NM with sneak up (didn't make any difference as it instantly aggro's whoever popped it but we were curious). We had a hard time getting silence to stick but it was very suspectable to Paralyze, Bind and Gravity.

It IS a BLM mob so expect to see all tier 3 and 4 nukes getting thrown at you. The general tactic was to Bind+Gravity (it's practically immune to sleep and I can't remember if Repose stuck or not) then spam nukes at it then Bind+Gravity again and rest somewhere safe. It also has a very potent en-asipr on melee attacks so either blink tank it or make sure that someone is kiting it.

Like I said it takes a long time, something like 20 minutes to half an hour because this guy has a ridiculous amount of HP. I think taking alone a Blue Mage friend would help out a lot. According to wiki it's highly resistant to stun but it should be easy enough to headbutt the higher level nukes.

If you're duoing it with Sati then he will NEED to kite it purely due to the en-aspir. Just be careful about WHERE you kite it though, it can and will link with other Shadows if you let it. There were a couple of times where tossing Carby out into the path of the NM was pretty useful when allowing my RDM friend to get her shadows back up. Bringing something like a PUP, BST or SMN along would probably make it much easier.

[Kasandaro]

Okay, I just got to fight him again today for a friend, and got a nasty reminder.

Unless you're really practiced as RDM/NIN + DRG/, he is *not* duoable.

[Kyleet]

If you're duoing it with Sati then he will NEED to kite it purely due to the en-aspir.

Just a wild guess here, but I'm guessing the reason RDM/NIN can solo this fight is because the shadows don't let the en-aspir land. I think we can handle him with RDM and BRD I was thinking the same songs as Icemage suggested. I wasn't aware you could run from DD. That helps, although getting Sati to play in first person mode might be harder than anything else.

Get a lvl 75 bst. Thats what happened for me when I needed mine. LOL Finally got a JP friend with lvl 75 bst and got my body. Totally amazed me what a bst could do.

Alas, I don't know any 75 BST. Do know a 75 SMN but lately he's been hit or miss as far as online time. It helps that he's the suicidal type and doesn't mind that kinda thing, but he's rarely on or I wouldn't mind asking him as much as I mind asking some of the other higher players I know.

I think we'll give this a shot as BRD and RDM and settle in for a good fight. It should be fun, if nothing else. I'll also be able to test lullaby. Might also try throwing virelai at him and see if it'll stun/pause him. Idly, I wonder if our NPCs would be of any help, though the -ga spells would probably take them out fairly quickly at level 60ish.

Unless you're really practiced as RDM/NIN + DRG/, he is *not* duoable.

While we are very experienced at DRG + RDM (It's basically how we got 75 on those jobs, and we're a killer Campaign team), I think it'd fail horribly in this case since DRG can't tank this dude unless I had NIN sub. Which I don't. :3

Anyways, had a bunch of chores today so couldn't get his NIN to 37. As soon as we get that we're gonna give it a try.

[Firewind]

Originally Posted by Kasandaro

Okay, I just got to fight him again today for a friend, and got a nasty reminder.

Unless you're really practiced as RDM/NIN + DRG/, he is *not* duoable.

But RDM/NIN CAN tank it especially with the kiting method I mentioned in my post. If RDM/NIN and a seriously underlevelled WHM/SMN can duo the fight I don't see what would trouble a RDM/NIN and a job that can actually do something other than occasionally land an enfeeb on the NM and spam Repose on adds.

A lot of people fail to see how much survivability that RDM/NIN has. As long as the RDM keeps hate and keeps the NM moving you should be able to avoid the En-Aspir and the majority of the DDeath spam.

I'm not saying it's easy, you will have a much easier time with a traditional party setup and the tank using shadows to soak up En-Aspir and DDeath or just simply zerging it but where's the fun in that?

Originally Posted by Kyleet

Alas, I don't know any 75 BST. Do know a 75 SMN but lately he's been hit or miss as far as online time. It helps that he's the suicidal type and doesn't mind that kinda thing, but he's rarely on or I wouldn't mind asking him as much as I mind asking some of the other higher players I know.

I think we'll give this a shot as BRD and RDM and settle in for a good fight. It should be fun, if nothing else. I'll also be able to test lullaby. Might also try throwing virelai at him and see if it'll stun/pause him. Idly, I wonder if our NPCs would be of any help, though the -ga spells would probably take them out fairly quickly at level 60ish.

It's a very fun fight, it's just a pain walking all the way over to Fei Yin even with the OP Warp or a WHM teleporting you over there. I've seen Lullaby and Repose stick on Formor and Shadows so it would be worth seeing if it will stick on this guy. I *may* be able to get access to FFXI over the next few days (it all depends on how lazy I feel later with my College assignments) so if you need help and I'm online send me a /tell. I might be able to bring some people too. I have a few BLU freinds who would be useful, I do know that one of them had got Head Butt/Bludgeon (can't remember which one) to stun most of the NM's spells when he helped someone else with this fight.

EDIT: Okay I can confirm that I have FFXI access from tonight until Wednesday Night (Wednesday afternoon EST) so if you would like my help then let me know.

[Kyleet]

But RDM/NIN CAN tank it especially with the kiting method I mentioned in my post. If RDM/NIN and a seriously underlevelled WHM/SMN can duo the fight I don't see what would trouble a RDM/NIN and a job that can actually do something other than occasionally land an enfeeb on the NM and spam Repose on adds.

Problem with DRG/something + RDM/NIN is that he'd have no way to keep hate off me. I could super jump and have the gear to turn my high jump into a spare super jump, but I still doubt its enough to keep the RDM tanking instead of the DRG. So there's thats the problem.

Working on his NIN now. Probably tomorrow or sometime this week we'll give this a shot. ^^b

[LadyKiKi]

Dimensional Death does like 500-1000~ (random?) damage, doesn't it? I don't know but I doubt my crab can hold it off for long ... (along with magic spam?). I'm speaking from the point of view that I know my jugpets/pets very well against the opposition, hence my doubt.

Need to do this soon-ish too, haha, WHM is my next job. Might as well semi-prepare for it.

But if i screw up on BST I'll go straight on RDM.

[Kyleet]

Got this done today with help of FW, my cousin's PLD and a NIN fellow he knew. Unfortunately hubby had to drive today so our experimental duo run didn't happen. However I'm positive we could have duo'd it now as long as he kept shadows up. Would have been a long fight but yeah... with march ballad and haste it wouldn't of killed us.

Did try to land lullaby on him but it didn't work, so that question is answered at least. Also virelai did nothing though I expected that much, would of been neat if it could have stunned. Anyways the only potential issue is the ga spells but if we had gone rdm and brd/whm I could have gotten bar spells up before he finished whatever spell he was casting. I can definitely see RDM/NIN soloing this with little trouble. :3 Sucks for every other job tho!

[Susurrus]

Summoner can solo this.

Carby kite ftw.

[Mezlo]

I solo most AF NM's with my SAM/NIN with yuki > gekko > kasha > yuki > gekko *meditate* > gekko. You can get this off usually right when the last shadow wears from my 2 utsu:ni's. Throw up a seigan + thirdeye, cast Utsu:ichi, keeping seigan up, and then slug away at the NM. Seigan + thirdeye is a great way to bridge ni and ichi, and the 6 x WS at the beginning of the fight plus the skillchains that go off and the enfeebles that stick, make most fights simple. I haven't fought the whm af body NM before, but makes me want to try. ^^