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Thanked 22x in 17 Posts Gil: 4,139 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,139 Donate  | Benediction not 100% heal I've always understood Benediction one way. It cures everyone in the party to 100%. (and now cures almost all status ailments) It seems that this is not the case.
I was in a small linkshell skillup party upstairs in The Boyahda Tree. PLD75, WHM55-ish, a couple DDs and me. We were killing Steelshells and Goobbues. We ended up with two Goobbues at one point. The Paladin was close to death near the end of the last Goobbue with his, mine and the White Mage's MP drained. I was about to pop Manafont and start blasting Cure 3s when the White Mage used Benediction. At the same time, the Warrior used Rampage to finish off the mob.
The strange thing was that while we were catching our breath, we realized that the Paladin's HP was not 100%. We thought it could have been lag and the Goobbue got a hit in just after Benediction, so we looked at the difference of current to max HP. It was higher than the last hit on the log.
That meant Benediction did not cure him 100%. Was really close, but not 100%. We started joking around in Linkshell chat saying <Too Weak> <White Mage>, <Too Weak> <Benediction>.
So I guess Benediction is not 100%. Now that I look at this page, I see that the description says "Restores a large amount of HP and removes all status ailments for party members within area of effect." I suspect that it wasn't 100% because it was an Elvaan PLD75 at near death and a WHM55-ish doing the 'diction.
Has anyone else noticed this?  Haggai
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Last edited by Haggai : 01-17-2007 at 08:14 AM. |  | ::Quote Selected::  | | | 01-17-2007, 08:38 AM | #2 (permalink) | | J...atatouille Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 8,338 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood:  Thanks: 5
Thanked 137x in 107 Posts Gil: 32,866 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 32,866 Donate | Re: Benediction not 100% heal I wish it's not 100%, would make Absolute Virtue a joke : /
It is 100%. A slight decrease in HP can happen by a lot of things, like gear change. There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
but there are others who with the help of their art and their intelligence
transform a yellow spot into the sun.
- Pablo Picasso | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 01-17-2007, 08:48 AM | #3 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 405 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 3
Thanked 16x in 6 Posts Gil: 2,006 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,006 Donate | Re: Benediction not 100% heal Well you could always test it. Get a friend whose whm is level 1, find yourself a high leveled rdm with hp+ gear, go into a beseiged, have him use a giant's drink, then convert to <100 hp. Have the whm use benediction and see how much it heals. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 01-17-2007, 09:37 AM | #4 (permalink) | | Interior Decorator Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,138 Style: Light - Version 4 Thanks: 110
Thanked 274x in 184 Posts Gil: 21,727 Bank: 192,471 Total Gil: 214,198 Donate | Re: Benediction not 100% heal It's not 100%, AV just has a boosted Bene. A whm friend of mine when he was 65 trued bene-ing a 75 galka mnk with HP gear to see how much HP he could fill and didn't fill it 100%. My guess is lvl plays a part in the max HP you can cure. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 01-17-2007, 10:00 AM | #5 (permalink) | | Alone Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 3,145 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood:  Thanks: 251
Thanked 295x in 206 Posts Gil: 21,365 Bank: 21,106 Total Gil: 42,471 Donate | Re: Benediction not 100% heal i think its effected by whm lvl and healing level, because my healing magic is undercapped (yes i know im slacking) we had tested my bene vs a friend whos whm is 40 and his bene did more then mine. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 01-17-2007, 12:13 PM | #6 (permalink) | | Likes to n00k Join Date: May 2006 Location: Maine, USA Posts: 560 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 8
Thanked 22x in 17 Posts Gil: 4,139 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,139 Donate | Re: Benediction not 100% heal I asked him if he did a gear change, he said no.
Now I want to try it out myself. Haggai
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I cAsTs ThE sPeLlS tHaT mAkEs ThE pEoPlEs FaLl DoWn. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 01-17-2007, 12:45 PM | #7 (permalink) | | Digital Wizard Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 6,054 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood:  Thanks: 69
Thanked 478x in 316 Posts Gil: 1,279 Bank: 148,450 Total Gil: 149,729 Donate | Re: Benediction not 100% heal It's 100% every time. Gear swaps may be to blame in this case. WHM has been my main job since June 2003 and I've used Benediction in virtually every conceivable situation. It has never failed to put people at max HP for me (I know I've healed people for over 2000HP before with it).
Icemage | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 01-17-2007, 01:05 PM | #8 (permalink) | | King of the Oompa Loompas Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,411 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 10
Thanked 124x in 100 Posts Gil: 31,694 Bank: 73,047 Total Gil: 104,741 Donate | Re: Benediction not 100% heal Originally Posted by Haggai  | I asked him if he did a gear change, he said no.
Now I want to try it out myself. | He probably ate some +hp food beforehand and it wore off during the fight, after you used benediction. Otherwise, it was lag. |  | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 01-18-2007, 10:03 AM | #9 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 776 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 11
Thanked 126x in 92 Posts Gil: 152 Bank: 3,343 Total Gil: 3,495 Donate | Re: Benediction not 100% heal Bene is a 100% like Icemage said.
I was curious about this before, so I tested it in Besieged where people have 3000+hp, and it cures from red to full everytime. I thought maybe being 75 already made a difference so I put my level 1 mule in Besieged and did the same test, and again it cured a for over 3000hp. So far as I can tell it's a 100% everytime no matter what level or healing magic skill. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 01-18-2007, 02:06 PM | #10 (permalink) | | Digital Wizard Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 6,054 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 69
Thanked 478x in 316 Posts Gil: 1,279 Bank: 148,450 Total Gil: 149,729 Donate | Re: Benediction not 100% heal | Originally Posted by Mog | | He probably ate some +hp food beforehand and it wore off during the fight, after you used benediction. Otherwise, it was lag. | I'd go with lag and/or HP gear. +HP food wearing off would shrink the perceived damage; i.e. you were 1000/1100 and your +50HP food wears off, leaving you at 1000/1050. Shouldn't work in the other direction.
Icemage | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 01-23-2007, 11:35 AM | #11 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Currently... Sumter SC Posts: 8 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0
Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 579 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 579 Donate | Re: Benediction not 100% heal Bene is Not 100%. Ive Bene'd a 75 Galka Monk from single diget HP and it only curred him to about 1700. "There can be only one..." | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 01-24-2007, 05:35 AM | #12 (permalink) | | Undeniably Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Like my Galka PLD Action Figure w/Hauteclaire grip? lolz Posts: 196 Style: Light - Version 5 Thanks: 21
Thanked 12x in 4 Posts Gil: 3,052 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,052 Donate | Re: Benediction not 100% heal Bene is Full 100%.
I've never seen Bene to not fully heal anyone in PT -ever-, and this is after playing WHM for 2 1/2 years. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 01-25-2007, 01:06 AM | #13 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 983 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood:  Thanks: 7
Thanked 54x in 30 Posts Gil: 3,076 Bank: 20,437 Total Gil: 23,513 Donate | Re: Benediction not 100% heal Same here, Benediction has -always- healed everyone in range to 100% for me, and I have been playing WHM almost exclusively since NA release. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 02-14-2007, 04:47 AM | #14 (permalink) | | FFXIWiki'er FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,572 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood:  Thanks: 102
Thanked 39x in 30 Posts Gil: 29,363 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 29,363 Donate | Re: Benediction not 100% heal Im not to argue here, since I am a lowly WHM, and tbh I dont really care...
But.
To all those that have alwasy Bene'd for 100% HP in cases of 2000HP +, how would you explain the circumstances of other's NOT beneing for 100%? Esp those who held specific tests.
Maybe there are hidden attributes to Benediction? Or maybe not. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 02-20-2007, 11:58 PM | #15 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 983 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 7
Thanked 54x in 30 Posts Gil: 3,076 Bank: 20,437 Total Gil: 23,513 Donate | Re: Benediction not 100% heal What if the players who did not get HP back to 100% were cursed or inflicted with Max HP Down, and Benediction healed that status after it had already healed HP to 100%? | | | ::Quote Selected:: | |
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