Triggering Latent Effects (Medicine Ring)

Aelith · 02-09-2005, 07:33 PM

So I was looking at this ring and some info on it. It seems really nice, i mean - extra 10% cure potency right? That sure beats an electrum ring over the course of a few cures.

Now, I take it (but I'm not positive) that the requirements for that ability to trigger are as simple as yellow hp. ... Eew, yuck.

Getting to yellow hp wouldn't be that bad (just over cure enough to get hit once or twice). However, with autoregen keeping it there doesn't seem easy or practical.

I'm sure a lot of you are much better then me at figureing this sort of stuff out though. Is there any method that would be practical for this, or would i be better just sticking to my astral/electrum combo?

Also, unrelated question. Ocean stone. That's a pretty nice looking belt piece with the +30 mp and all. Certainly beats my oracle's belt. 1.5 million is a bit much though - especially with the other stuff i'm saveing up for. Is there anyway to get this from an nm/quest/something else?

Brayden · 02-09-2005, 07:50 PM

Yes, you need to have yellow HP to trigger that effect. I have heard this is most useful for batteling Maat. Havent heard about its use outside of that. except maybe in a special macro if shit is hitting the fan

The ocean stone is a BCNM drop, but I am unsure which one.

Icemage · 02-09-2005, 09:33 PM

I tried really, really hard to find an equip switch set that would let me bump from full to yellow just by changing gear, but even as a Taru that's difficult without forcing my base HPs dangerously low.

Bottom line, it's not worth trying to trigger deliberately. It's great against Maat, since you KNOW you're going to get hit there. Everywhere else, you shouldn't be taking any damage if you know what you're doing.

Icemage

Linaaa · 02-10-2005, 06:38 AM

worthless ring imo ;x

felpa_de_osa · 02-14-2005, 11:54 AM

There is a level 50 Burning Circle Notorious fight call

Hostile Herbivores

Holaris Peak

Level 50
30 Minutes
6 People

The fight will have a sheep or two don't know excatly never done it I am going to try it out as my Bard with my linkshell one day for my Forest Stone. If you plan on getting your Ocean Stone that's the BCNM you will need.

If you have a linkshell ask them to help you and be sure to collect at least 50 Beastmen's Seals for it. If not then you might have to ask a bunch of strangers as long as you get your stone.

Icemage · 02-14-2005, 05:15 PM

Hmm.. if that's the BCNM I'm thinking of, that fight is pretty tough, and bringing strangers to that battle is asking to lose. It is 3 NM Fighting Sheep. Immune to Sleep. They pack a huge wallop, if you let them Berserk, get ready to take several hundred points of damage if they use their WS (Lamb Chop? Sheep Charge? Something like that...). Most winning strategies involve kiting 2 of the sheep with Red Mages or holding them with Ninjas while the rest of the party kills one, then ganging up on the others.

Icemage

Russta · 02-15-2005, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Battle Angel
Yes, you need to have yellow HP to trigger that effect.

Yellow HP (50% or below) and TP under 100%.

Amele · 02-19-2005, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Russta
Yellow HP (50% or below) and TP under 100%.

yellow hp is ~75-80%, not 50%. Orange HP is 50%

the second part is correct, so blow any ws you've got before curing if you want the effect.

little ninja · 02-20-2005, 12:54 AM

the ring to me sounds like something a rdm would switch to after convert. or something a pld would switch to to give his cure some more potencys, an thus giving him more hate.

pld or rdm this ring best suits. well that is unless its a whm only ring. then it sounds worthless,

Yuanlung · 02-21-2005, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by little ninja
the ring to me sounds like something a rdm would switch to after convert. or something a pld would switch to to give his cure some more potencys, an thus giving him more hate.

pld or rdm this ring best suits. well that is unless its a whm only ring. then it sounds worthless,

Macht · 02-21-2005, 10:45 AM

That does seem like a worthless ring. Maybe there's a crafting ability (That miraculously no one has found yet) that lets you knock that effect to a normal instead of Latent >.>

If that is so then it would be a great item. Use it with Light Staff get a +20% Cure Potency

little ninja · 02-22-2005, 08:50 PM

i can see it now, whm goes to yellow, ring kicks in, they cure for alot of health pisses the mob off witch kills the whm.

maybe putting it on after an aoe spell, or bomb toss is the only real good time for it.

02-09-2005, 07:33 PM	#1
Aelith Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 51 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	Triggering Latent Effects (Medicine Ring) So I was looking at this ring and some info on it. It seems really nice, i mean - extra 10% cure potency right? That sure beats an electrum ring over the course of a few cures. Now, I take it (but I'm not positive) that the requirements for that ability to trigger are as simple as yellow hp. ... Eew, yuck. Getting to yellow hp wouldn't be that bad (just over cure enough to get hit once or twice). However, with autoregen keeping it there doesn't seem easy or practical. I'm sure a lot of you are much better then me at figureing this sort of stuff out though. Is there any method that would be practical for this, or would i be better just sticking to my astral/electrum combo? Also, unrelated question. Ocean stone. That's a pretty nice looking belt piece with the +30 mp and all. Certainly beats my oracle's belt. 1.5 million is a bit much though - especially with the other stuff i'm saveing up for. Is there anyway to get this from an nm/quest/something else? __________________ Aelith - 75 Whm/ 37 Smn Alexander

02-09-2005, 07:50 PM	#2
Brayden custom title Bronze Ribbon of Service Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 787 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 12 Thanked 4x in 4 Posts	Yes, you need to have yellow HP to trigger that effect. I have heard this is most useful for batteling Maat. Havent heard about its use outside of that. except maybe in a special macro if shit is hitting the fan The ocean stone is a BCNM drop, but I am unsure which one. __________________

02-10-2005, 06:38 AM	#4
Linaaa Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 115 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	worthless ring imo ;x __________________ Linaaa (^-^) Levels [WHM:75\|SMN:59\|BST:54\|THF:51\|BLM:37\|NIN:37\|WAR:37\|M NK:22\|RNG:21\|RDM:16\|SAM:10] Guilds: Clothcraft: 92.1+3 - Leather: 60.0 - Goldsmith: 24.0 - Woodcraft: 6.1 - Cooking: 1.0 Avatars: Carby / Garuda / Shiva / Ifrit / Ramuh / Leviathan / Fenrir (^-^)V * NM's: killed lots, lots of drops, lost track. Live journal <3 Linaaa LiveJournal ^^v**

02-20-2005, 12:54 AM	#9
little ninja Veteran Member Allied Ribbon of Bravery Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,880 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 5 Thanked 28x in 22 Posts My Mood:	the ring to me sounds like something a rdm would switch to after convert. or something a pld would switch to to give his cure some more potencys, an thus giving him more hate. pld or rdm this ring best suits. well that is unless its a whm only ring. then it sounds worthless, __________________ Nin75, Bst75. Drk61, War61, Rdm40, All other jobs are 37. All 3 starting city missions completed. All Zilart missions completed. All CoP missions completed. TouA completed.

02-22-2005, 08:50 PM	#12
little ninja Veteran Member Allied Ribbon of Bravery Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,880 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 5 Thanked 28x in 22 Posts My Mood:	i can see it now, whm goes to yellow, ring kicks in, they cure for alot of health pisses the mob off witch kills the whm. maybe putting it on after an aoe spell, or bomb toss is the only real good time for it. __________________ Nin75, Bst75. Drk61, War61, Rdm40, All other jobs are 37. All 3 starting city missions completed. All Zilart missions completed. All CoP missions completed. TouA completed.

02-09-2005, 09:33 PM	#3
Icemage Digital Wizard Super Moderator Holyknight Emblem Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 6,207 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 72 Thanked 528x in 341 Posts My Mood:	I tried really, really hard to find an equip switch set that would let me bump from full to yellow just by changing gear, but even as a Taru that's difficult without forcing my base HPs dangerously low. Bottom line, it's not worth trying to trigger deliberately. It's great against Maat, since you KNOW you're going to get hit there. Everywhere else, you shouldn't be taking any damage if you know what you're doing. Icemage

02-14-2005, 11:54 AM	#5
felpa_de_osa Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 174 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	There is a level 50 Burning Circle Notorious fight call Hostile Herbivores Holaris Peak Level 50 30 Minutes 6 People The fight will have a sheep or two don't know excatly never done it I am going to try it out as my Bard with my linkshell one day for my Forest Stone. If you plan on getting your Ocean Stone that's the BCNM you will need. If you have a linkshell ask them to help you and be sure to collect at least 50 Beastmen's Seals for it. If not then you might have to ask a bunch of strangers as long as you get your stone.

02-14-2005, 05:15 PM	#6
Icemage Digital Wizard Super Moderator Holyknight Emblem Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 6,207 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 72 Thanked 528x in 341 Posts My Mood:	Hmm.. if that's the BCNM I'm thinking of, that fight is pretty tough, and bringing strangers to that battle is asking to lose. It is 3 NM Fighting Sheep. Immune to Sleep. They pack a huge wallop, if you let them Berserk, get ready to take several hundred points of damage if they use their WS (Lamb Chop? Sheep Charge? Something like that...). Most winning strategies involve kiting 2 of the sheep with Red Mages or holding them with Ninjas while the rest of the party kills one, then ganging up on the others. Icemage

02-21-2005, 10:45 AM	#11
Macht Pai Pai Lackey Iron Emblem of Service Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 5,234 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 4 Thanked 29x in 24 Posts	That does seem like a worthless ring. Maybe there's a crafting ability (That miraculously no one has found yet) that lets you knock that effect to a normal instead of Latent >.> If that is so then it would be a great item. Use it with Light Staff get a +20% Cure Potency

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