08-20-2006, 07:20 AM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 154 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 4,939 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,939 Donate | War/mnk to 75? Is it possible? That is all I want to know. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-20-2006, 07:21 AM | #2 (permalink) | | King of the Oompa Loompas Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,360 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 10 Thanked 118x in 96 Posts Gil: 27,416 Bank: 50,142 Total Gil: 77,558 Donate | Re: War/mnk to 75? Yes.
Close this thread. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-20-2006, 07:37 AM | #3 (permalink) | | ONE WAY Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Confirmed Posts: 2,908 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 86 Thanked 229x in 171 Posts Gil: 29,361 Bank: 13,467 Total Gil: 42,827 Donate | Re: War/mnk to 75? I would have to disagree. Though it's possible to level any job to 75, with the current state of the players being extremely brainwashed you wouldn't get a single invite with /MNK past 40. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-20-2006, 07:45 AM | #4 (permalink) | | X's General FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 3,008 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 260 Thanked 755x in 410 Posts Gil: 50,948 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 50,948 Donate | Re: War/mnk to 75? Sad, but true.
The possibility is there, if you had an open-minded static party and some great support...just don't expect to actually do it in pickup groups and hit 75 any time this year. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-20-2006, 10:18 AM | #5 (permalink) | | factcheck.org Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,919 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1,708 Thanked 1,545x in 1,079 Posts Gil: 13,512 Bank: 601,228 Total Gil: 614,741 Donate | Re: War/mnk to 75? WAR/BRD is possible to 75.
Are people going to invite you with it? Most likely not. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-20-2006, 10:43 AM | #6 (permalink) | | King of the Oompa Loompas Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,360 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 10 Thanked 118x in 96 Posts Gil: 27,416 Bank: 50,142 Total Gil: 77,558 Donate | Re: War/mnk to 75? | Originally Posted by DakAttack | | I would have to disagree. Though it's possible to level any job to 75, with the current state of the players being extremely brainwashed you wouldn't get a single invite with /MNK past 40. | He asked if it was possible. Yes, it is possible with the right setup and some good friends. If he had asked a different question, such as "Is it party-friendly and will I get invites?", then the answer will be most certainly no. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-20-2006, 10:48 AM | #7 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 154 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 4,939 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,939 Donate | Re: War/mnk to 75? I was more asking will i be able to take it or will invites die and getting to 75 as a war/mnk is almost impossible.. I woke up and was wondering lol sorry if question was unclear was sleepy ; ;.
-reason for question is I enjoyed war/mnk but not war/nin or war/thf for some reason. I may attempt it when im bored and i will level my war as war/mnk. Lol... yeah... | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-20-2006, 10:52 AM | #8 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 296 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 8 Thanked 2x in 2 Posts Gil: 713 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 713 Donate | Re: War/mnk to 75? You'll have a VERY hard time doing it, you'll be able if you dedicate all your free-time to trying to level and being LFG every moment of everyday.
Eventually someone will get desperate enough to invite you. Honestly, I don't have any problems with WAR/MNKs(With Great Axes) in my parties if they're as well equipped as they should be for the level. WAR/anything is a pretty good DD, and at least /MNK gives Focus and Boost. Plus, I always welcome the Break WSes. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-20-2006, 10:56 AM | #9 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 154 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 4,939 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,939 Donate | Re: War/mnk to 75? I mean with nice gear a war/mnk is a great DD, but everyone is like no, /nin or /thf. I mean war is not a very good tank past 30-40 but still it is a good DD as /mnk which is what I do not understand, all you get with /nin is two wepons which is faster tp gain and utsu which is nice I guess. Lol~ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-20-2006, 11:03 AM | #10 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 296 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 8 Thanked 2x in 2 Posts Gil: 713 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 713 Donate | Re: War/mnk to 75? | Originally Posted by Stooky | | I mean with nice gear a war/mnk is a great DD, but everyone is like no, /nin or /thf. I mean war is not a very good tank but still a good DD as /mnk which is what I do not understand, all you get with /nin is two wepons which is faster tp gain and utsu which is nice I guess. Lol~ | Honestly, it's all about Utsusemi... if WAR/NIN didn't have that I can almost guarantee most Warriors would not sub Ninja in several level ranges. (Talking all out offense, defense and defensive abilities aren't even being considered).
24-48 comes to mind immediately.
| Where 24-30 MNK or DRG would probably the subjobs of choice. 30+ MNK or THF
60+ as well...
| /THF gains the ability to plant hate... very nice, /DRG comes back here as well providing that Accuracy Bonus trait then gets even better at 70 with High Jump, not to mention that anytime you sub DRG 30+ you have access to a 5% haste earring.
But, WAR/NIN does have Utsusemi, and will continue to be the domiant subjob for Warrior until something changes with the mechanics of the game... or Utsusemi is removed from them. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-20-2006, 11:10 AM | #11 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 154 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 4,939 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,939 Donate | Re: War/mnk to 75? I guess so. Well to bad, guess I will stick to my whm for the time being. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-20-2006, 05:11 PM | #12 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 944 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 236 Thanked 69x in 61 Posts Gil: 1,874 Bank: 83,014 Total Gil: 84,888 Donate | Re: War/mnk to 75? To OP:
At level between 49 ~ 51, I DD as WAR/MNK: I formed my own party, I was using Shield + Axe or Great Axe. I also have /THF or /NIN leveled and DD as WAR/THF or WAR/NIN in the past exp. parties.
To me, I found out what WAR/MNK as DD at lvl 50 is lacking in the hard way:
As WAR/THF, Sneak Attack is a "guarantee" critical hit when executed behind the mob. Whenever I need a spike damage, Sneak Attack is very "reliable." As a WAR/MNK, Boost will boost hate, but "no guarantee" of spike damage.
As WAR/NIN, Utsusemi is almost "guarantee" for damage migration. As WAR/MNK at level 50, Dodge or Counter Attack is "no guarantee" for damage migration. You can depend on Utsusemi, but not Dodge or Counter Attack.
From my first hand experience, as lvl 50+ WAR/MNK I was not able to unleash like a WAR/NIN does: I have to control my hate like a WAR/THF. As a WAR/THF, I can always plan on when to spike my damage, WAR/MNK does not ofter such option.
The only unique benefit that WAR/MNK ofters is Aggressor + Focus cycle, and eat attack+ food. Compare to Aggressor, Focus is very gimped. I had exp on mobs that Focus + meat failed, such as Helm Beetles' evasion boost special buff. Overall, I was disappointed with lvl 50+ WAR/MNK DD combo.  Server: Quetzalcoatl
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75 PLD, 75 SAM, 75 WAR, 75 NIN, 66 MNK, 50 BLU, 39 RDM, 37 DRK, 37 THF, 37 DNC, 33 WHM, 30 PUP, 27 BLM, 26 DRG, 14 RNG Last edited by Celeal : 08-20-2006 at 05:17 PM. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-21-2006, 09:11 AM | #13 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 120 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 4 Thanked 2x in 2 Posts Gil: 3,197 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,197 Donate | Re: War/mnk to 75? As a non-warrior healer type, it's very very obvious to me how useful utsusemi is for most PT's. When every DD has /nin you can get by with minimal healing and that allows your mages to rest for longer periods of time which means less downtime and more xp. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-21-2006, 12:06 PM | #14 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 154 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 4,939 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,939 Donate | Re: War/mnk to 75? Well, thanks everyone. I may attempt it for the fact I enjoy war/mnk even if I get flamed and called a noob alot for using it past 40. yeah its not the best sub but with good gear I think I can possibly pull it off. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-21-2006, 12:14 PM | #15 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 296 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 8 Thanked 2x in 2 Posts Gil: 713 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 713 Donate | Re: War/mnk to 75? Well, I'll wish you good luck Stooky. WAR/MNK is the only combo I want to play, but with the state of the game as it is now, my Warrior job will stay at 37.
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