new warrior lvl 12

Anndon · 06-11-2006, 01:16 PM

hey guys, at some point i am thinking of a subjob, i really like the look of the samurai but i also wanna heal, so i was thinkin of just goin war/whm

your thoughts?

zagex · 06-11-2006, 01:30 PM

Unfortunately, the people in this game don't take kindly to non "standard" job/subjob combinations. For warrior people mostly want Monk or Thf subjobs at the beginning, and then Ninja later on.
However, what people want has nothing to do with what your subjob is when you're by yourself. Personally, I I always sub White Mage when I'm soloing, but when it comes down to joining a party, I'll go with something that's acceptable.

Murphie · 06-11-2006, 01:34 PM

MNK is your best option at this point. WAR/MNK from 18-30, WAR/THF after that, and then WAR/NIN at 50+.

Now, a lot of people will expect you to sub NIN from 22 on, but that's not as great an idea as they think it is. WAR/MNK, seriously. I can't stress that enough.

WAR/WHM isn't really a great combo at all. Maybe solo during your first few levels, but for party play it has little to no real benefit.

Armando · 06-11-2006, 01:42 PM

Well, let me make two things clear before I go on:
1) Not all sub jobs are equal. Sub jobs are entirely situational. Some are extremely useful in a great deal of situations. Some are extremely useful in a few rare situations. Some just aren't useful at all. Some work great for a lot of levels, and some only work for a few levels.
2) What works well in parties usually doesn't work well solo, and what works well solo usually doesn't work well in parties.

WAR/WHM works well when soloing. Like Aelathir said, though, your best bet right now is WAR/MNK until 30 when you're in EXP parties. At 30+ WAR/THF becomes very useful, and WAR/NIN becomes an option as well. WAR/MNK is a good solo tank, WAR/NIN is a great duo tank (especially with another WAR/NIN,) and WAR/THF is great for DDing.

Lonerwolf · 06-11-2006, 03:21 PM

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so i was thinkin of just goin war/whm

your thoughts?

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Ayrlie · 06-11-2006, 04:15 PM

later warrior is one of the very worst at soloing. horrible evasion, and even with current marksmanship skill (for bloody bolts) and ninja subjob, there are very few mobs that warrior can solo. want to solo easy prey later on? plan on losing more xp than it is worth, even with the best gear in the game.

LyonheartLakshmi · 06-12-2006, 07:23 AM

Don't limit yourself to having only one subjob leveled and ready. Like previous posters have mentioned, subjob use is very situational.

WHM sub is very useful 50+ (not in exp pties, but other things like questing, skill ups, coffer hunts). To make WHM sub work, you need to invest in a lot of pricy +MP gear. If this is your first time playing, then it's highly unlikely you'll be able to afford that gear. Perhaps by the time you get up to 50+, you'll have an income source and be able to equip yourself to use a WHM sub more effectively.

hellspawn · 06-13-2006, 08:56 PM

i would say the pld it can heal and fight like a war give def and atk boosts too

Anndon · 06-17-2006, 01:08 PM

yea i think i may go pld/war

mikejones · 06-17-2006, 01:35 PM

yeah.. in rpg's most people are stat whores... so jack of all trades type job combos dont really fair too well. if you have a sub-par DD and a sub-par healer as a war/whm... most people will consider a war/nin and a whm/whatever over you anytime in party situations.

pld/war tank much haha. war/nin rox my sox

06-11-2006, 01:16 PM	#1
Anndon Undeniably Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	new warrior lvl 12 hey guys, at some point i am thinking of a subjob, i really like the look of the samurai but i also wanna heal, so i was thinkin of just goin war/whm your thoughts?

06-11-2006, 01:30 PM	#2
zagex Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 153 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	Re: new warrior lvl 12 Unfortunately, the people in this game don't take kindly to non "standard" job/subjob combinations. For warrior people mostly want Monk or Thf subjobs at the beginning, and then Ninja later on. However, what people want has nothing to do with what your subjob is when you're by yourself. Personally, I I always sub White Mage when I'm soloing, but when it comes down to joining a party, I'll go with something that's acceptable.

06-11-2006, 01:34 PM	#3
Murphie Murphie Wings of Honor Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Murphie Posts: 8,193 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 531 Thanked 1,706x in 1,053 Posts	Re: new warrior lvl 12 MNK is your best option at this point. WAR/MNK from 18-30, WAR/THF after that, and then WAR/NIN at 50+. Now, a lot of people will expect you to sub NIN from 22 on, but that's not as great an idea as they think it is. WAR/MNK, seriously. I can't stress that enough. WAR/WHM isn't really a great combo at all. Maybe solo during your first few levels, but for party play it has little to no real benefit. __________________ Murphie.

06-11-2006, 01:42 PM	#4
Armando 2300 AD is pretty screwed up Iron Emblem of Service Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 5,110 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 707 Thanked 1,631x in 906 Posts My Mood:	Re: new warrior lvl 12 Well, let me make two things clear before I go on: 1) Not all sub jobs are equal. Sub jobs are entirely situational. Some are extremely useful in a great deal of situations. Some are extremely useful in a few rare situations. Some just aren't useful at all. Some work great for a lot of levels, and some only work for a few levels. 2) What works well in parties usually doesn't work well solo, and what works well solo usually doesn't work well in parties. WAR/WHM works well when soloing. Like Aelathir said, though, your best bet right now is WAR/MNK until 30 when you're in EXP parties. At 30+ WAR/THF becomes very useful, and WAR/NIN becomes an option as well. WAR/MNK is a good solo tank, WAR/NIN is a great duo tank (especially with another WAR/NIN,) and WAR/THF is great for DDing. __________________

06-11-2006, 04:15 PM	#6
Ayrlie disgaea hero Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: southern illinois Posts: 469 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 5 Thanked 24x in 9 Posts	Re: new warrior lvl 12 later warrior is one of the very worst at soloing. horrible evasion, and even with current marksmanship skill (for bloody bolts) and ninja subjob, there are very few mobs that warrior can solo. want to solo easy prey later on? plan on losing more xp than it is worth, even with the best gear in the game. __________________ Dig A10; Main: Bonecraft 100+3/subs: 60/Fishing 59.7 Mules: Cooking 100+3/Alchemy 77.7 http://www.youtube.com/Ayrlie

06-12-2006, 07:23 AM	#7
LyonheartLakshmi Fan of Murphie Allied Ribbon of Bravery Join Date: May 2006 Location: Largo, FL Posts: 1,669 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 114 Thanked 313x in 186 Posts	Re: new warrior lvl 12 Don't limit yourself to having only one subjob leveled and ready. Like previous posters have mentioned, subjob use is very situational. WHM sub is very useful 50+ (not in exp pties, but other things like questing, skill ups, coffer hunts). To make WHM sub work, you need to invest in a lot of pricy +MP gear. If this is your first time playing, then it's highly unlikely you'll be able to afford that gear. Perhaps by the time you get up to 50+, you'll have an income source and be able to equip yourself to use a WHM sub more effectively. __________________ Lyonheart lvl 75 WAR, 75 BST, 75 BLM, 75 NIN, 47 SCH Cooking 100.0+3+3, Culinarian's Signboard, Raw Fish Handling, Noodle Kneading, Patissier Fishing 60 Lakiskline Bonecrafting 100.0+3+3, Leather 60+2, Woodworking 60, Alchemy 60 Smithing 60, Clothcraft 55, Goldsmithing 54.1, Cooking 11 Boneworker's Signboard, Bone Purification, Bone Ensorcellment, Filing, Lumberjack, Chainwork

06-13-2006, 08:56 PM	#8
hellspawn Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: missouri Posts: 8 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	Re: new warrior lvl 12 i would say the pld it can heal and fight like a war give def and atk boosts too

06-17-2006, 01:08 PM	#9
Anndon Undeniably Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	Re: new warrior lvl 12 yea i think i may go pld/war

06-17-2006, 01:35 PM	#10
mikejones Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 33 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	Re: new warrior lvl 12 yeah.. in rpg's most people are stat whores... so jack of all trades type job combos dont really fair too well. if you have a sub-par DD and a sub-par healer as a war/whm... most people will consider a war/nin and a whm/whatever over you anytime in party situations. pld/war tank much haha. war/nin rox my sox

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