[sirina]

Ok now my theif is lv 32 (my highest lv ) and I quit leveling it and decided to go mage cause I hated that one place (I cant seem to think of the name, Has lots of bats that link ) And I had some really bad times there and I was still learning SATA bla bla, But now I miss theif to much so i decided to level it again but Im not willing to go back to what I shall call right now (the bad place) . Im pretty sure you can solo a theif some what , But right now im trying to level up marksmanship because apparently thats important and it was only lv 0 for me o.o; , so now bolts are a pain to keep buying and AH prices are anoying and to high and then I'll try to lv as theif/whm so i can use protect and poisona and stuff since my warriors not much help and I dont have enough norg fame to lv ninja and get that really important ninja move ....or money... but i was wondering about any tips to help. I know at the dunes flys give me only 30 exp with a ring on >.<; this might take awhile

[Antivomit]

Good question. I wanna try and solo with my DRK too. And I have the same problem with the /NIN thing. Hopefully someone will post something useful and I can leech off the info

[Tigralia]

sorry to dissapoint guys but thf cant really solo for exp, ima 61 thf and find partying is much more benifical, u cud always promy farm... and get exp that way.. but at 32 u shud be at the jungles i had no problems lvling thf an dont see how ppl do... just wait till u hit 55 an can go to aht urghan ... 55-60 in 22.5hrs /.. good luck an dont give up on thf

[Haggai]

I don't know about soloing at that level, but if you want /NIN, farm Yagudo Necklaces. Click the link in my sig and scroll down to Norg / Tenshodo fame. You Want "Mihgo's Amigos" or something like that. Getting Norg fame really isn't that hard.

For skilling up marksmanship, I suggest you level woodworking to 16+. That is the level you need to be to make bolts. That will cut the cost of making them. It's not hard or expensive to get that far. Look in the Woodworking forum for guides. Getting it to 29+ means you can make your own Shihei for /NIN.

Oh, and that bat place you're talking about sounds like Garliage Citadel.

[Tigralia]

it is garbarge sh*ttyhell... and personally as a thf id say from jungles go to altepa then Quicksand caves, wen u get VB ull be SATA VB'ing pld ants for close to 1k dmg

[Lmnop]

-You don't come close to 1k damage 'til level 50ish at least -- and that's on squishy spiders. 500 dmg + 300 Distortion is a dream come true. I guess that's close to 1k, but the disto gets resisted down to 150 often, and whenever Distortion is completely unresisted and hits the 60% damage cap, it seems like that's when you get a low WS >.<

-Thf soloes very well. But kill speed is kinda an issue. Actually... THF solo was very random for me. I would play with thf/nin solo between levels 30 and 35 or so. I'd run out to Saur[tab key] and find some Gobs to pick on. Sometimes I'd solo VTs and barely get hit. Sometimes I'd die to a Decent Challenge. I spent too much time swapping gears and trying to recover HP with Bloody bolts that i shoulda spent just attacking. Assuming you only get unlucky once per solo session, you can use Perfect Dodge to put Utsusemi back up and by the time PD wears off, not only do you have 3 shadows but your recast timer is back up.

-Thf/whm can solo very well, but don't expect to go above Decent Challenge. In fact, even Decent Challenge will hurt a lot w/out a significant amount of +evasion or +agi gear available. as you get into the 50s and get dagger Weapon Skills that recover MP, you can keep yourself going pretty well indefinately -- assuming your opponent has MP to be stolen.

There was some thread around here a year or so ago about a level 63 THF soloing Bloodtear...

[Tigralia]

u must be a pretty lackluste thf if u dont approach 1k dmg without SC b4 50, not trying to be nasty, but mithra thf fully pimped an i was doing 900 dmg SA VBs while the blm only did 990-1100 MB freeze's. And now on 60 i can do 1200-1400 SATA DE's in exp my sam friends dont like me , so its diff for every1.. but i resent ppl that say "thf cant..." so i prove them wrong ^.^... best thing about thf solo is.. u can get drain/weak def/poison/blind/sleep/paralyze/slow and "blink".. with no mp ... that means no rest... so while a drk goes an solo's a few DC's and needs to rest up.. u can rip thru EP's and not have to stop at all therefore getting more exp... also when u can, do promys/besieged/ENM's/Eco's and Escort quests for near as dammit free exp


ppl will flame this say "no mp yeah but tool/bolt prices".. but remember ur a thf.. u can farm better than any1.. and neways dunno bout u guys but prices on my server f00kin rule now.... 60k for 12x toolbag shihei ^^ yes please... and 40k for 12x bloody bolt quivers... thank you

[sirina]

um i hardly understood some of thouse answers o.o im not very good with terms and moves, so ><; pretend im a newbie and that everything u say needs to be transtaled a bit please ><

[Mhurron]

Originally Posted by sirina

um i hardly understood some of thouse answers o.o im not very good with terms and moves, so ><; pretend im a newbie and that everything u say needs to be transtaled a bit please ><

They whipped it out, and started comparing WS damage, just leave them be

The general gist of it was, soloing with THF is probably hard and not really worth it.

Either grin and bare Garlaige or try making your own parties and go to Altepa instead (you do have the Altep tele crystal right). You'll leave Garlaige around lvl 36 so thats not too far off, get a good party or two and your only talking 2 or 3 exp sessions. I went through Garlaige last time as DRK about that quick, but I was lucky with several good parties in a row.

IIRC THF has a AF piece in Garlaige and you might be back there around lvl 48-50 so don't end up hating the place too much.

[Neppy]

I just hit 50 on my THF tonight and ive never even came close to 1k dmg on exp mobs with SATA VB. If that makes me a lackluster THF you are so wrong. I have +4 Dagger skill from merits, Brigandine+1, main bone knife+1, off hand hornet needle, Emp Hairpin, Bound boots, Noct+1 legs etc. Idk what my stats are at 50, but at 49 I was DEX 55+18 and AGI 51+15 w/o food, I ate squid sushi. Use life belt for TP gain and swapped in sword belt for SATA and WS for +10 attack. Best DMG I was doing was 600 SATAVB on bats in the basement of garbage citadel. Honestly in my opinion my gear doesnt get much better then what I am wearing for my lvl, if im lackluster then give me suggestions then because im at a loss.

As for soloing for exp, why? At that level it'll be sooooo slow, exp parties will be way more beneficial for exp.

[sirina]

Originally Posted by Mhurron

They whipped it out, and started comparing WS damage, just leave them be

The general gist of it was, soloing with THF is probably hard and not really worth it.

Either grin and bare Garlaige or try making your own parties and go to Altepa instead (you do have the Altep tele crystal right). You'll leave Garlaige around lvl 36 so thats not too far off, get a good party or two and your only talking 2 or 3 exp sessions. I went through Garlaige last time as DRK about that quick, but I was lucky with several good parties in a row.

IIRC THF has a AF piece in Garlaige and you might be back there around lvl 48-50 so don't end up hating the place too much.

Um actually I dont have the Altep tele crystal and dont know how to get one...I should ask my linkshell about that o.o;

[Mhurron]

Originally Posted by sirina

Um actually I dont have the Altep tele crystal and dont know how to get one...I should ask my linkshell about that o.o;

Meet your new friend http://www.ffxi-atlas.com/

Specifically Bastok mines > Zerhun Mines > Korroloka Tunnel > Eastern Altepa Desert

Sneak and Invisible through Korroloka, just Sneak through Altepa since if you come across a gob you're way off course.

[Lmnop]

Originally Posted by Me

-Thf/whm can solo very well, but don't expect to go above Decent Challenge. In fact, even Decent Challenge will hurt a lot w/out a significant amount of +evasion or +agi gear available. as you get into the 50s and get dagger Weapon Skills that recover MP, you can keep yourself going pretty well indefinately -- assuming your opponent has MP to be stolen.

That's the part for you to focus on. That's what you can expect for soloing.

Make sure you get your altep gate crystal, I think Altep from 30-32/33 is very nice. So for you, Altep to get your feet wet. However, Garlaige Citadel (your hell) is actually your heaven, since you deal extra damage to bats with your dagger (pull only the big bats, not the triple bats). Also, no one ever parties there anymore so it's empty which is wonderful.


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Tigralia: I won't deny that WS + SC can hit awesome high. I typed up a bunch of stuff but you know what? THF is great and we'll just leave it at that. There's no reason for me to drag it out when we all know that THF is a good class.

[Kaickul]

THF cant really solo efficiently until 74+. By then youll have an assortment of gear to assist you with Evasion and damage. For those of you who say you cant solo more than D/C or at all very well I give you this Screenshot from Pii's collection thats over a year old. (Hint before all the new THF stuff)



So a skilled THF can solo efficiently ...just make sure you carry that RR2 Hairpin with you or youll regret it.

[Icemage]

There's a big difference between a level 75 fully merited THF/NIN soloing VT+ and a lower level thief who doesn't have the ridiculously good gear that is required for screenshots like that, though.

For all intents and purposes, soloing for XP as THF is pretty hopeless as a means of advancement towards 75.


Icemage