Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-22-2003, 05:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 182
Style: Light - Version 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0x in 0 Posts
Gil: 250
Bank: 0
Total Gil: 250
Donate
Chests/Coffers hunting
Someone sent me PM about how chests/coffers hunting works.

So i will just post the basic idea about how thfs hunt coffers/chests in here.

There are 3 types of key thf can use.

Thief's tool - carpenter
Living key - alchemy
Skeleton key - bonework

the better key, the higher chance to succeed opening chests/coffers

Thief's tool(least chance) < Living key(medium chance) < Skeleton key(higest chance) .. it goes like this.

So if you are hunting coffers in really high lv zones like ZV or OZ, you should really use skeleton key, but if you are hunting ez chest like gusgen, thief's tool is enough.

the prices go like this on my server:

thief's tool = 900g
living key = 1500g
skeleton key = 3000g

most thf start hunting chests/coffers after lv50 because they can /whm or /rdm for sneak and invis.

one thing though, you can't open chest while invising, gotta take it off first. and about sneak, you can open chest but sneak will be gone after opening, so you have to make sure there is no monster around there.

the easiest way to hunt chest is lving up till you are high enough and monsters dont attack you anymore so that you can run around without worries.

thats why its ez if monster dont attack you.

coffers/chests pop time is 30 minutes. Its exactly 30 minutes no more no less. In the famous place like Oztroja or Feiyin that there are always rivals, I usually time the pop time in second. Once, i get my first chest, i time it (i use the oven timer thingy ^^') and do something else such as hunting ez monsters for some drops.

and when the time comes, i count down from 10,9,8,...,1,0 then I tonzura (splint), hide and check all the pop spots. In place that is big like feiyin, i can usually check 9spots from 12spots in about 90 seconds, so if somebody else opened a chest before me, i will know the next pop time with about -45 or +45 second error.

so, when you come later and there is somebody hunting chest already, the easy way to know when the coffer will pop is keeping looking at him, whenever he starts running , that means its pop time, so you just splint and check all spots.

If i am controlling pop time of chests, i usualy hide when i start running so those rivals might not see me checking chest and they might not know its pop time ^^.

another very important thing is you have to know ALL pop spots of chests/coffers. the best website has been closed already. fortunately I had it back up, so I can send to any of you if you want (send me pm your email and make sure you have 1Mbyte free space ^^')

this is just basic idea of how to hun chests/coffers. there are lots more things that a thf has to know.. like which monster need sneak, which monster need invis.. which one active to magic, how you gonna deal if your invis fades.. or how can you open coffer/chest while there are many monsters around.. that is just what a thf has to learn by himself ^^



Jeeb the Dancing Thf~
74THF 73BLM.
kanomjeeb is offline   ::Quote Selected::
Old 08-22-2003, 09:37 AM   #2 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 131
Style: Dark - Version 5
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0x in 0 Posts
Gil: 157
Bank: 0
Total Gil: 157
Donate
You da man Jeeb

Now I just gotta get my THF high enough to where I'm not getting my ass handed to me everytime I run around Fei Yin.



Server: Titan
Country: Bastok
Race: TaruTaru
Rank: 6
Current Job: THF62/WAR31

WHM60/THF62/PLD50/WAR36/BLM30/MNK16
Beany is offline   ::Quote Selected::
Old 08-22-2003, 02:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
Veteran Member
Brain of Knowledge
FFXI Character Info.
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 1,629
Style: Light - Version 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0x in 0 Posts
Gil: 1,378
Bank: 0
Total Gil: 1,378
Donate
Thanks

Rivalry is so fun :-).



Nameless is offline   ::Quote Selected::
Old 08-24-2003, 06:49 AM   #4 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 69
Style: Light - Version 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0x in 0 Posts
Gil: 429
Bank: 0
Total Gil: 429
Donate
Great information on the thief tool^^ However i have a question for you which i would like to ask anyone reading this post. Jeeb was saying tat for the 3 types of tools for thiefs, the skeleton type has the highest rate of success. However i have read from somewhere tat while the chances for sucess of the skeleton and living kit are fixed, the success rate of opening a chest/coffer with the thief tool is dependent on the lvl of the thf. Meaning a lvl 30 thf may never succeed in picking a chest lock with the thief tool in feiyin while having a high chance of success with the skeleton kit. Hoever, a lvl 70 thf will have a very high chance of success with a thief tool in feiyin, even much more than the skeleton kit. Is this true?
miffycat is offline   ::Quote Selected::
Old 08-24-2003, 10:16 AM   #5 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 131
Style: Dark - Version 5
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0x in 0 Posts
Gil: 157
Bank: 0
Total Gil: 157
Donate
Well, my only experience with coffer/chest hunting was running around the Sea Serpent Grotto, looking for the map. As a LVL50 THF, it took me 2 Living Keys to get it open.



Server: Titan
Country: Bastok
Race: TaruTaru
Rank: 6
Current Job: THF62/WAR31

WHM60/THF62/PLD50/WAR36/BLM30/MNK16
Beany is offline   ::Quote Selected::
Old 08-24-2003, 09:58 PM   #6 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 182
Style: Light - Version 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0x in 0 Posts
Gil: 250
Bank: 0
Total Gil: 250
Donate
Seems to be that way from my experience.

success rate seems to depend on 3 things

- Zone (ZV = hard, gusgen = ez for example)
- Thf's LV as you mentioned.
- Key's type

When I was finding my AF coffer in ZV, I used 4 skeleton key to open - -' (I was lvv56), but now(lv60) I can use living key to open coffer in monastic cavern, OZ with like 75% success rate.

also, when i started hunting chests in feiyin at lv56, it was like 50 50 chance to succeed opening a chest using livling keys, but now it seems to be almost 100% ^^'

So, it seems to be that way, the higher lv, the more success rate.



Jeeb the Dancing Thf~
74THF 73BLM.
kanomjeeb is offline   ::Quote Selected::
Old 08-25-2003, 07:41 AM   #7 (permalink)
Jei
J...atatouille
Super Moderator
 
Jei's Avatar
FFXI Character Info.
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 8,338
Style: Light - Version 5
My Mood:
Thanks: 5
Thanked 137x in 107 Posts
Gil: 32,955
Bank: 0
Total Gil: 32,955
Donate
o-O? which website is closed? the treasure hunting map we've been using???



There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
but there are others who with the help of their art and their intelligence
transform a yellow spot into the sun.

- Pablo Picasso
Jei is offline   ::Quote Selected::
Old 08-28-2003, 02:29 PM   #8 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 92
Style: Light - Version 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0x in 0 Posts
Gil: 388
Bank: 0
Total Gil: 388
Donate
Is coffer hunting pretty much a high level thief activity? It seems like everyone I hear talking about it is at like level 50... is this because there are no coffers in caves appropriate to lower levels, or are the items just not worth it...

Coffer hunting seems like fun to me.... a good way to solo and be productive... what are good coffer caves (i.e. with lots of chests) for levels 1-10, 10-20, 20-30, etc?
Calilove is offline   ::Quote Selected::
Old 09-02-2003, 09:47 PM   #9 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 57
Style: Light - Version 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0x in 0 Posts
Gil: 549
Bank: 0
Total Gil: 549
Donate
How often do you get mimcs attack you? It seems quite a lost cause as they have the ability to make u run backwards towards them...hence tonzura is ><
zappem2000 is offline   ::Quote Selected::
Old 09-04-2003, 06:40 AM   #10 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 131
Style: Dark - Version 5
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0x in 0 Posts
Gil: 157
Bank: 0
Total Gil: 157
Donate
Don't take my word for it, but from my experience (very little), hunting chests/coffers at lower levels in lower level zones does not yield enough profit to warrent wasting your time camping for chests.

The chance of a Mimic attacking you is random, just like the chance of getting cursed, but I think the Mimic only has a chance of attacking you if you fail to pick the lock.

(Btw, I'm just regurgitating what Jeeb told me, so take it as you will)



Server: Titan
Country: Bastok
Race: TaruTaru
Rank: 6
Current Job: THF62/WAR31

WHM60/THF62/PLD50/WAR36/BLM30/MNK16
Beany is offline   ::Quote Selected::
Old 09-15-2003, 02:43 AM   #11 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 5
Style: Light - Version 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0x in 0 Posts
Gil: 118
Bank: 0
Total Gil: 118
Donate
Hey Jeebs, if you still look at this thread please read your PM's it concerns whats in this topic ~Thank You.
Kaizoku is offline   ::Quote Selected::
Old 09-15-2003, 03:37 AM   #12 (permalink)
Member
 
davidmmmm9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 905
Style: Light - Version 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0x in 0 Posts
Gil: 722
Bank: 0
Total Gil: 722
Donate
I know the coffer pops every 30 minutes, but I was pretty sure that treasure chest pop again instantly after you open them.



MiyamotoMusashi
Bastok Missions completed
Zilart Missions completed
davidmmmm9 is offline   ::Quote Selected::
Old 09-15-2003, 03:55 AM   #13 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 182
Style: Light - Version 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0x in 0 Posts
Gil: 250
Bank: 0
Total Gil: 250
Donate
Quote:
I know the coffer pops every 30 minutes, but I was pretty sure that treasure chest pop again instantly after you open them.
Treasure chests are still the same, 30 minute pop time. I am sure about this cuz I have opened chests in feiyin more than 100 I believe

Quote:
Hey Jeebs, if you still look at this thread please read your PM's it concerns whats in this topic ~Thank You.
I sent you the coffers/chests location already. Did you get it?



Jeeb the Dancing Thf~
74THF 73BLM.
kanomjeeb is offline   ::Quote Selected::
Old 09-15-2003, 08:41 PM   #14 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 216
Style: Light - Version 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0x in 0 Posts
Gil: 261
Bank: 0
Total Gil: 261
Donate
chest time > different places, different time, like wat miya say, i have seen chest appear very soon.
Deli is offline   ::Quote Selected::
Old 09-15-2003, 11:30 PM   #15 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 182
Style: Light - Version 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0x in 0 Posts
Gil: 250
Bank: 0
Total Gil: 250
Donate
Oh wow i didnt even know that. its 30 minutes in feiyin and ZV, so i thought every places would be the same.

Anyway, Deli you know if quicksand coffers can really give rez2? In the treasure hunter webby said yes they do, and also some friends of mine said so too.

However, I asked another high lv jap. He said the coffers there do NOT give rez2, its just a rumor.

so, i was like.. - . -?

can anyone confirm that coffers in quicksand give rez2?(probably very rarely)

my personal experience -> about 7-8 coffers there = moneyx7 and mimic 1 T.T



Jeeb the Dancing Thf~
74THF 73BLM.
kanomjeeb is offline   ::Quote Selected::
Closed Thread


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:59 AM.


Site Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.6.8 Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. - Modifications by PiNG
©2001-2008 SQUARE ENIX CO., LTD. All Rights Reserved. Title Design by Yoshitaka Amano.
FINAL FANTASY and VANA'DIEL are registered trademarks of Square Enix Co., Ltd. SQUARE ENIX, PLAYONLINE and the PlayOnline logo are trademarks of Square Enix Co., Ltd.
Comments and posts are property of their authors. All the rest, including video, articles, compiled game data, and sections, unless otherwise noted, are
©2002-2008 FFXIOnline.com: Dreams in Vana'diel. All rights reserved.
Page generated in 0.65656 seconds with 30 queries