07-23-2003, 04:45 AM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 163 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 564 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 564 Donate | No Mug... WTF!?! Why do Thief's in XI not have the best Thief ability from the other FFs? I mean come on, that was half the reason I bothered with Diablos in VIII. I think Mug is one of the coolest FF abilities period no matter what job... so where is it? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-23-2003, 05:34 AM | #2 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NY, USA Posts: 619 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 2,356 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,356 Donate | eh.... Well, think of it this way, it doesn't have it YET.
They have to think about how to correctly implement it.  Rude, but not wrong. ;x Rank 10 Bastok, Rank 10 San d'Oria, Rank 10 Windurst
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" I Kill For Fun, Meng!!" - Tony | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-23-2003, 02:57 PM | #3 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 11 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 59 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 59 Donate | Look at it this way. The highest thief active ability is at level 45. What with the level currently being 70, I'm willing to bet in the future there will be an expansion that includes more ablilites for every job.
So like Lone Dragon said, its not out yet but edventually it should. If not, I'll be right behind you suppling pitchforks and torches to the angry mob.  PH34R M1 N33D PH0R B33R! 3Y3 W!LL STR!K3 Jo0 DoWN 4ND 5T34L J00R B33R! M1 N33D PHoR B33R W!LL N@T B3 !GN0R3D!-Largo, MegaTokyo | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-23-2003, 03:52 PM | #5 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 11 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 59 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 59 Donate | Mug is an advanced form of Steal. You deal damage AND take an item, how can you not like that?
Its like finding an onion ring in your thing of fries, I mean It just brightens your day......ok maybe that wasn't the best metphor but you get the picture....  PH34R M1 N33D PH0R B33R! 3Y3 W!LL STR!K3 Jo0 DoWN 4ND 5T34L J00R B33R! M1 N33D PHoR B33R W!LL N@T B3 !GN0R3D!-Largo, MegaTokyo | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-23-2003, 03:55 PM | #6 (permalink) | | Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 866 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 2,171 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,171 Donate | Mug is like steal, only you attack at the same time, but it's not like you can steal anything worthwhile in this game anyway so I don't see how mug is going to make thief any better. If I ever manage to steal anything with my thief, I usually just throw it away since all it does is fill up my limited inventory space. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-23-2003, 05:25 PM | #7 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 161 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 326 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 326 Donate | | Quote: | Originally Posted By Maxim If I ever manage to steal anything with my thief, I usually just throw it away since all it does is fill up my limited inventory space. | Actually completely agree with you there. Items you usually end up getting after stealing aren't usually worth it.. I stoped using steal for awhile now.
Sure you'll run into a few monsters that might have something to steal off them .. the steal animation is very quick and since most thiefs use daggers ( I am ) you attack very quickly afterwards. To bad its on a 5 minute timer though, so attacking AND stealing isn't nessesary.
Most of the time I usually just forget its even there since every single other Active ability the thief has is 20X better.
ALTHOUGH it would be a nice addition to an already awesome job. MUG that is  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-23-2003, 06:16 PM | #8 (permalink) | | ★上手猫又音楽技術者★ Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,451 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 1,838 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,838 Donate | Actually, steal is very profitable at higher levels...
you'll see my point once you start stealing items worth thosands of gil...trust me, I've seen lv60+ THFs steal some nice things...
I'm 100% positive we'll see 'Mug' in the near future... | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-24-2003, 12:52 AM | #9 (permalink) | | J...atatouille Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 8,338 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 5 Thanked 137x in 107 Posts Gil: 32,955 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 32,955 Donate | steal is already useful the way it is. in this game 1 single attack mean so little to the overall battle. use a little time to steal is not gonna slow down your attacking that much... it's not a turn base you know where if you steal you stay idle for a while...
you can steal mithril signs from beastsmen level 50+.... it's used for black smithy guild and price are around 1-2K each
beastsmen level 60+ you can steal gold sign.... price goes as high as 8K sometimes.
THF can make tons of money from that... even when they are in a levelling party... There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
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- Pablo Picasso | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-24-2003, 10:01 PM | #10 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 182 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 250 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 250 Donate | I love steal ... so much.
I am happy that our AF has steal modifier on many pieces.
Yesterday I PTed in quicksand fighting Artican...
From about 3-4 hours, I stole 2 stacks of the mithril ore thingy... also like 2-3 stacks of darkness crystals, 3-4 1500gil worth artican shell or something like that..
1 stack of mithril ore is worth 20k in windurst AH on my server.
Thus, from about 3 hours, I got 10k exp, 40k from mithril ores, 3k from crystals, and 4-5k from the shell thingy.
10k exp, 50k gil.. from 3 hours.. what else you need (?M??L)
PS. while I am running through batallia hunting tigers for fangs, I always steal the silver ore from lv 25gob there.. they are 4500 per stack too ('?')?U  Jeeb the Dancing Thf~
74THF 73BLM. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-12-2004, 11:43 AM | #11 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Indiana Posts: 447 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 1,887 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,887 Donate | Mug is crap u can make maybe 100-150 gil per hour with it, its worthless Jobs: NIN75 THF75 WAR75 PLD64 MeritsPT total: 349 (Capped) | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-12-2004, 04:34 PM | #12 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,629 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,378 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,378 Donate | Nice way to bump a 9 month old topic. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-12-2004, 04:36 PM | #13 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 104 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 66 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 66 Donate | | Quote: | Originally posted by Arximiro Mug is crap u can make maybe 100-150 gil per hour with it, its worthless | Or 1.5-2k when you mug Yowie or the shadow dragon :D | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-12-2004, 07:56 PM | #14 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 593 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 406 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 406 Donate | like kano said u get all this in addition to exp for the expense of nothing else i really don't see where theives have any room to complain  March 23 2004, a day that will live in infamy.
Use search, or deal with assholes like me | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-12-2004, 08:00 PM | #15 (permalink) | | Senior Veteran Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,984 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 22 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 1,764 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,764 Donate | | Quote: | Originally posted by LockeCole
Or 1.5-2k when you mug Yowie or the shadow dragon :D | I mug level 68~~~ monsters I think that's there level and they only give 100 about. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:01 AM. | | |