Astral Burn

Lunaryn · 10-17-2009, 04:07 PM

Gimp Skill? SMN? Uh, what?

SMN has one meaningful skill, and they don't gain much of it naturally in parties. They gain it solo by constantly summoning and dismissing their avatars. Level sync is not going to have much impact beyond making such skill-grinding sessions less spread out.

Unless you actually mean melee combat skills, in which case you're advocating against leveling SMN in parties altogether, not just in astral burns.

edit: Okay, come to think of it, I vaguely remember some update making summoning skill slightly easier to get. Still doubt it makes that much difference here...

Aksannyi · 10-17-2009, 04:10 PM

Yeah everyone I know just bots summoning skill, sadly. Takes longer to skill up SMN skill than it does to skill up a craft, and that includes the farming time involved so that you have the gil to spend on crafting.

I was getting skill ups on Odin the few times I was asked to come SMN for it, which was pretty rare because we never had the WHMs for it.

Malacite · 10-17-2009, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aksannyi

Yeah everyone I know just bots summoning skill, sadly. Takes longer to skill up SMN skill than it does to skill up a craft, and that includes the farming time involved so that you have the gil to spend on crafting.

Summoning still doesn't have shit on Guard skill.

/orz

Aksannyi · 10-17-2009, 08:58 PM

True that, and you can't bot guard skill while you're asleep for six hours.

Zoltar · 10-21-2009, 08:20 AM

Summoning magic is SOOOOO easy to skill up, why does everyone make it sound like it's a chore or has to be botted?

Get a party in The Boyhada Tree, /pet "Poison Nails" <t>, repeat

cmon ppl....

Romyro · 10-26-2009, 12:37 PM

If you’re a 70+ smn, you can go solo imps in CM (or team up with other smn/bst).

I didn’t do astral burns but my skill was drastically low when I hit 70. Using the 70 BPs (predator claws or spinning dive typically) on imps skyrocketed my skill to the cap. MUCH faster then summoning avatars

Malacite · 10-26-2009, 11:12 PM

Hi2u Besieged.

Has there ever been any confirmation on whether multi-hit pacts can grant more than 1 skill up? Or would the tier 2/4 nukes just be a safer bet all around since they can't miss and don't have to deal damage?

Romyro · 10-27-2009, 05:44 AM

pretty sure they cant. You get seem to only get skill ups from calling avatars or using blootdpacts. dont think hits or # of hits has any relevance.

Zoltar · 11-02-2009, 07:17 AM

I've never had a double or more skill-up from a multi-hit BP.

Not sure if true or not, but I found that you got more skill-ups when you were closer to the actual level of the mob when performing a BP to acheive a skill-up. (no matter what your summoning skill is) Summoning and releasing avatars doesn't seem as fast as using BPs on EM/DC mobs.

10-17-2009, 04:07 PM	#31
Lunaryn Knowledge Vending Machine Bronze Ribbon of Service Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bastok Mines Posts: 852 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 155 Thanked 113x in 69 Posts	Re: Astral Burn Gimp Skill? SMN? Uh, what? SMN has one meaningful skill, and they don't gain much of it naturally in parties. They gain it solo by constantly summoning and dismissing their avatars. Level sync is not going to have much impact beyond making such skill-grinding sessions less spread out. Unless you actually mean melee combat skills, in which case you're advocating against leveling SMN in parties altogether, not just in astral burns. edit: Okay, come to think of it, I vaguely remember some update making summoning skill slightly easier to get. Still doubt it makes that much difference here... __________________ Kumei, pickpocket of Midgardsormr(Bastok Rank 10) THF75,DRK66,NIN40,WAR37,WHM37,RDM37,DNC37,RNG37,SA M30,DRG22,BLM20,SCH20,BRD11,COR11,BST11,PUP7 Alchemy 72, Smithing 51, Goldsmithing 48, Leathercraft 23, Fishing 20 Koren, San d'Orian Adv.(Rank 6) RDM65,WHM63,SCH37,SMN33,BLM32,NIN25,PLD10,BRD10,WA R5 Woodworking 29,Cooking 20 All celestials(Trial-Size) Myrna, Windurstian Merchant BLM30,WHM25,RDM19 Clothcraft 24 Nyamohrreh, Windurstian Adv.(Rank 2) WAR35,WHM28,MNK21,BLM20,BLU18,DRG18

10-21-2009, 08:20 AM	#35
Zoltar I.T. Analyst Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 282 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 3 Thanked 15x in 15 Posts	Re: Astral Burn Summoning magic is SOOOOO easy to skill up, why does everyone make it sound like it's a chore or has to be botted? Get a party in The Boyhada Tree, /pet "Poison Nails" <t>, repeat cmon ppl.... __________________ [Bahamut] Rank 6 [NightRyders] ************************************************ ************** \| 75 BLM \| 75 BRD \| 75 SMN \| 73 THF \|46 MNK \| 37 WAR \| 37 NIN \| 37 WHM \| 37 RDM ********************************************** **************** Currently leveling: Thief

10-26-2009, 12:37 PM	#36
Romyro Pet Job Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 108 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 7 Thanked 2x in 2 Posts My Mood:	Re: Astral Burn If you’re a 70+ smn, you can go solo imps in CM (or team up with other smn/bst). I didn’t do astral burns but my skill was drastically low when I hit 70. Using the 70 BPs (predator claws or spinning dive typically) on imps skyrocketed my skill to the cap. MUCH faster then summoning avatars __________________ "Pet job or GTFO" - Jujube "When in doubt.../war" - Tinytots (Romyro) - "We've got to kill those Bones...they're in the way" (Ayr) - "The only bone you need to worry about is the one i'm going to stick you with" (lol, maybe not exact words...but it's close, and just as creepy) 75 Bst, Smn, Pup, Brd

10-26-2009, 11:12 PM	#37
Malacite Crime Solving Rank 11 Paladin! Steelknight Emblem Join Date: May 2006 Location: None of your damn business Posts: 5,839 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 1,375 Thanked 524x in 365 Posts My Mood:	Re: Astral Burn Hi2u Besieged. Has there ever been any confirmation on whether multi-hit pacts can grant more than 1 skill up? Or would the tier 2/4 nukes just be a safer bet all around since they can't miss and don't have to deal damage? __________________ My Dream Samurai Gear

10-27-2009, 05:44 AM	#38
Romyro Pet Job Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 108 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 7 Thanked 2x in 2 Posts My Mood:	Re: Astral Burn pretty sure they cant. You get seem to only get skill ups from calling avatars or using blootdpacts. dont think hits or # of hits has any relevance. __________________ "Pet job or GTFO" - Jujube "When in doubt.../war" - Tinytots (Romyro) - "We've got to kill those Bones...they're in the way" (Ayr) - "The only bone you need to worry about is the one i'm going to stick you with" (lol, maybe not exact words...but it's close, and just as creepy) 75 Bst, Smn, Pup, Brd

11-02-2009, 07:17 AM	#39
Zoltar I.T. Analyst Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 282 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 3 Thanked 15x in 15 Posts	Re: Astral Burn I've never had a double or more skill-up from a multi-hit BP. Not sure if true or not, but I found that you got more skill-ups when you were closer to the actual level of the mob when performing a BP to acheive a skill-up. (no matter what your summoning skill is) Summoning and releasing avatars doesn't seem as fast as using BPs on EM/DC mobs. __________________ [Bahamut] Rank 6 [NightRyders] ************************************************ ************** \| 75 BLM \| 75 BRD \| 75 SMN \| 73 THF \|46 MNK \| 37 WAR \| 37 NIN \| 37 WHM \| 37 RDM ********************************************** **************** Currently leveling: Thief

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