11-17-2007, 10:06 AM | #1 (permalink) | | Call me "Rain" Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 312 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 35 Thanked 57x in 35 Posts Gil: 13,101 Bank: 3,286 Total Gil: 16,387 Donate | So Summoners... ...how do you feel about the news on Summoner? | Quote: | Summoner
New ability. Restore MP by elemental spirits. Ability may also be tied to days of the week and weather. There will be another annoucement on SMN later tonight. | | Quote: | New summons? There are plans to introduce new avatars. Beyond that, top secret.
Rain Blade's message: Notice that they bolded the "s" after avatar to confirm it's not just one. | I'm guessing when the avatar runs out of mp, you can summon your spirits and while having your spirits out, you're gaining MP while your spirit is casting spells. When you think you have enough mp or when you think your mp is full, you might go back to casting your avatars again. This is just a guess.
Aaliyah is more than a woman and she graduated with a 4.0 GPA (she only had 1 "C" grade ever in her life).
I bolded and underlined the "is" just for you, Malacite. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-17-2007, 10:46 AM | #2 (permalink) | | The Storyteller Join Date: May 2005 Location: Over There Posts: 298 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 246 Thanked 37x in 29 Posts Gil: 22,784 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 22,784 Donate | Re: So Summoners... Interesting speculation, but I don't see it happening.
Also, in ToAU they said they were introducing two new avatars, but we can't summon them. They're NPCs. We can hope for the ability to summon these though! =3
CAITSIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITH :D  Insert spiffy signature here | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-17-2007, 11:21 AM | #3 (permalink) | | SOS Brigade Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: None of your damn business Posts: 3,900 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 862 Thanked 356x in 253 Posts Gil: 136,403 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 136,403 Donate | Re: So Summoners... Cait Sith is a story character so far, I don't think we'll be getting him as a summon.
However, anyone who's beaten ToAU should have a good idea of what we can expect or at least hope for :3
Come on Alex > . < | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-17-2007, 12:28 PM | #4 (permalink) | | The Storyteller Join Date: May 2005 Location: Over There Posts: 298 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 246 Thanked 37x in 29 Posts Gil: 22,784 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 22,784 Donate | Re: So Summoners... Originally Posted by Malacite | | Come on Alex > . < | I dunno. Alexander doesn't even move...  Insert spiffy signature here | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-17-2007, 06:15 PM | #5 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 983 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 7 Thanked 54x in 30 Posts Gil: 3,183 Bank: 20,846 Total Gil: 24,029 Donate | Re: So Summoners... My guess is that elemental spirits will still have the MP slip effect since there's a merit ability which reduces the perpetuation cost for those, however it may be something like each melee attack they do has a Damage Dealt (%) >> MP effect which returns MP to the SMN as it attacks or something. I think that they'd like it so that if your SMN has zero MP you're still SoL, but if you're low on MP then you have an option to try and get some back. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-17-2007, 06:18 PM | #6 (permalink) | | RANK 5 IS BULLSHIT! Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,038 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1,741 Thanked 1,631x in 1,135 Posts Gil: 9,186 Bank: 983,226 Total Gil: 992,412 Donate | Re: So Summoners... If Spirits regenerating MP is the best they can do, SMN is still screwed. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Feba For This Useful Post: | | | 11-17-2007, 06:45 PM | #7 (permalink) | | Call me "Rain" Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 312 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 35 Thanked 57x in 35 Posts Gil: 13,101 Bank: 3,286 Total Gil: 16,387 Donate | Re: So Summoners... Originally Posted by Feba | | If Spirits regenerating MP is the best they can do, SMN is still screwed. | | Quote: | Summoner
New ability. Restore MP by elemental spirits. Ability may also be tied to days of the week and weather. There will be another annoucement on SMN later tonight. | We still have hope (that sounded so lame, but it's true).
Aaliyah is more than a woman and she graduated with a 4.0 GPA (she only had 1 "C" grade ever in her life).
I bolded and underlined the "is" just for you, Malacite. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-17-2007, 06:57 PM | #8 (permalink) | | RANK 5 IS BULLSHIT! Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,038 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1,741 Thanked 1,631x in 1,135 Posts Gil: 9,186 Bank: 983,226 Total Gil: 992,412 Donate | Re: So Summoners... yes, but unless that announcement happens to be "we're eliminating perpetuation costs lol." I doubt it will help much | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-17-2007, 07:01 PM | #9 (permalink) | | Junior Member Administrator Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,931 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 235 Thanked 683x in 348 Posts Gil: 30,714 Bank: 87,750 Total Gil: 118,464 Donate | Re: So Summoners... Well, a use for spirits other than light was something that was missing, just not something anyone was probably hoping for in particular. Maybe it'll be some kind of channel-like ability where having the spirit out to match the weather or day will restore mp instead of draining it, or perhaps the spirit's mp will tick up as it's out and a JA will cannibalize that.
It's not an overhaul to BPs, but more mp for smn to be more free to use the BPs they have to their fullest is a good thing.  - | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-17-2007, 09:40 PM | #10 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 529 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 68 Thanked 50x in 40 Posts Gil: 13,718 Bank: 20,490 Total Gil: 34,209 Donate | Re: So Summoners... I'm curious to know what else they have planned for summoner. Restoring MP by elemental spirits is nice but it's not impressive. I would prefer a change to help smn's before they run out of MP.
Edit: Most of this discussion so far has been about the part on elemental spirits, but also notice the parts that say "New ability" and "Ability may also be tied to days of the week and weather." I'm guessing this ability may reduce perpetual cost and possibly enhanced if day and weather effects correspond with the avatar's element.
It would also be great if there was an ability similar to what I mentioned above, except instead of reducing perpetual cost it enhances the avatar's overall performance. Last edited by Silent Howler : 11-17-2007 at 11:04 PM. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-18-2007, 04:56 AM | #11 (permalink) | | SIGSEGV Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Texas / Remora Posts: 271 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 108 Thanked 65x in 39 Posts Gil: 7,888 Bank: 49,552 Total Gil: 57,440 Donate | Re: So Summoners... Originally Posted by Silent Howler | | Edit: Most of this discussion so far has been about the part on elemental spirits, but also notice the parts that say "New ability" and "Ability may also be tied to days of the week and weather." I'm guessing this ability may reduce perpetual cost and possibly enhanced if day and weather effects correspond with the avatar's element. | Read, then post! The new ability is recovering MP through the Elemental Spirits.
As an aside, I actually walked out of the conference room when they said that was all they were doing for SMN. Wii Number - 2810 2423 4673 3261 - Please PM me if you add me!
How to ask smart questions: catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Boom! (On SCH75/RDM) Last edited by Tsrwedge : 11-18-2007 at 04:57 AM. Reason: P.S. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-18-2007, 07:17 AM | #12 (permalink) | | Dictionary FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Warrior Posts: 1,607 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 133 Thanked 228x in 140 Posts Gil: 5,487 Bank: 65,366 Total Gil: 70,853 Donate | Re: So Summoners... Don't tell me you would have been satisfied if they said you'll get to summon Bahamut or some other glorious oldschool Summon.
I hope the 2 new avatars they're hinting at are NPCs only. A new piece of shit avatar that you'll only summon for one ability -some- of the time is total BS. We have 9 avatars. And I only ever see 2. If I have them counted right, there are 68 BPs in the game (aside from 2 hours), and I can count the "useful" ones on one hand.
So yeah, I'm excited about the elemental spirit-> mp ability. It may be crap, it may not be. At least it's not "just throw another avatar at the idiot players to shut 'em up". Originally Posted by Taskmage | Women = Time x Money
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Women = Evil | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-18-2007, 07:43 AM | #13 (permalink) | | SIGSEGV Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Texas / Remora Posts: 271 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 108 Thanked 65x in 39 Posts Gil: 7,888 Bank: 49,552 Total Gil: 57,440 Donate | Re: So Summoners... No, about the only thing that would have made me happy is something resembling an overhaul of the job. SE's said they don't like how it's being played, but they aren't doing anything about it. Wii Number - 2810 2423 4673 3261 - Please PM me if you add me!
How to ask smart questions: catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Boom! (On SCH75/RDM) | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-18-2007, 08:04 AM | #14 (permalink) | | Altanaの戦士 Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Fenrir Server Posts: 2,830 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 133 Thanked 325x in 209 Posts Gil: 403 Bank: 124,134 Total Gil: 124,537 Donate | Re: So Summoners... Wouldn't it be easier if they simply allowed SMNs to rest MP while an avatar is out?  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Raydeus For This Useful Post: | | | 11-18-2007, 09:13 AM | #15 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 529 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 68 Thanked 50x in 40 Posts Gil: 13,718 Bank: 20,490 Total Gil: 34,209 Donate | Re: So Summoners... Originally Posted by Tsrwedge | Read, then post! The new ability is recovering MP through the Elemental Spirits.
As an aside, I actually walked out of the conference room when they said that was all they were doing for SMN. | I did read, just misinterpreted. I didn't consider restoring MP to be an actually abitility, but just a new fuction implanted into spirits. But now you have a new suggestion to think about. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:36 PM. | | |