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Rain_Blade · 11-17-2007, 10:06 AM

...how do you feel about the news on Summoner?

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Summoner
New ability. Restore MP by elemental spirits. Ability may also be tied to days of the week and weather. There will be another annoucement on SMN later tonight.

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New summons? There are plans to introduce new avatars. Beyond that, top secret.

Rain Blade's message: Notice that they bolded the "s" after avatar to confirm it's not just one.

I'm guessing when the avatar runs out of mp, you can summon your spirits and while having your spirits out, you're gaining MP while your spirit is casting spells. When you think you have enough mp or when you think your mp is full, you might go back to casting your avatars again. This is just a guess.

Eiyoko · 11-17-2007, 10:46 AM

Interesting speculation, but I don't see it happening.

Also, in ToAU they said they were introducing two new avatars, but we can't summon them. They're NPCs. We can hope for the ability to summon these though! =3

CAITSIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITH :D

Malacite · 11-17-2007, 11:21 AM

Cait Sith is a story character so far, I don't think we'll be getting him as a summon.

However, anyone who's beaten ToAU should have a good idea of what we can expect or at least hope for :3

Come on Alex > . <

Eiyoko · 11-17-2007, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by Malacite

Come on Alex > . <

I dunno. Alexander doesn't even move...

Feenicks · 11-17-2007, 06:15 PM

My guess is that elemental spirits will still have the MP slip effect since there's a merit ability which reduces the perpetuation cost for those, however it may be something like each melee attack they do has a Damage Dealt (%) >> MP effect which returns MP to the SMN as it attacks or something. I think that they'd like it so that if your SMN has zero MP you're still SoL, but if you're low on MP then you have an option to try and get some back.

Feba · 11-17-2007, 06:18 PM

If Spirits regenerating MP is the best they can do, SMN is still screwed.

Rain_Blade · 11-17-2007, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by Feba

If Spirits regenerating MP is the best they can do, SMN is still screwed.

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Summoner
New ability. Restore MP by elemental spirits. Ability may also be tied to days of the week and weather. There will be another annoucement on SMN later tonight.

We still have hope (that sounded so lame, but it's true).

Feba · 11-17-2007, 06:57 PM

yes, but unless that announcement happens to be "we're eliminating perpetuation costs lol." I doubt it will help much

Taskmage · 11-17-2007, 07:01 PM

Well, a use for spirits other than light was something that was missing, just not something anyone was probably hoping for in particular. Maybe it'll be some kind of channel-like ability where having the spirit out to match the weather or day will restore mp instead of draining it, or perhaps the spirit's mp will tick up as it's out and a JA will cannibalize that.

It's not an overhaul to BPs, but more mp for smn to be more free to use the BPs they have to their fullest is a good thing.

Silent Howler · 11-17-2007, 09:40 PM

I'm curious to know what else they have planned for summoner. Restoring MP by elemental spirits is nice but it's not impressive. I would prefer a change to help smn's before they run out of MP.

Edit: Most of this discussion so far has been about the part on elemental spirits, but also notice the parts that say "New ability" and "Ability may also be tied to days of the week and weather." I'm guessing this ability may reduce perpetual cost and possibly enhanced if day and weather effects correspond with the avatar's element.

It would also be great if there was an ability similar to what I mentioned above, except instead of reducing perpetual cost it enhances the avatar's overall performance.

Tsrwedge · 11-18-2007, 04:56 AM

Originally Posted by Silent Howler

Edit: Most of this discussion so far has been about the part on elemental spirits, but also notice the parts that say "New ability" and "Ability may also be tied to days of the week and weather." I'm guessing this ability may reduce perpetual cost and possibly enhanced if day and weather effects correspond with the avatar's element.

Read, then post! The new ability is recovering MP through the Elemental Spirits.

As an aside, I actually walked out of the conference room when they said that was all they were doing for SMN.

Lmnop · 11-18-2007, 07:17 AM

Don't tell me you would have been satisfied if they said you'll get to summon Bahamut or some other glorious oldschool Summon.

I hope the 2 new avatars they're hinting at are NPCs only. A new piece of shit avatar that you'll only summon for one ability -some- of the time is total BS. We have 9 avatars. And I only ever see 2. If I have them counted right, there are 68 BPs in the game (aside from 2 hours), and I can count the "useful" ones on one hand.

So yeah, I'm excited about the elemental spirit-> mp ability. It may be crap, it may not be. At least it's not "just throw another avatar at the idiot players to shut 'em up".

Tsrwedge · 11-18-2007, 07:43 AM

No, about the only thing that would have made me happy is something resembling an overhaul of the job. SE's said they don't like how it's being played, but they aren't doing anything about it.

Raydeus · 11-18-2007, 08:04 AM

Wouldn't it be easier if they simply allowed SMNs to rest MP while an avatar is out?

Silent Howler · 11-18-2007, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by Tsrwedge

Read, then post! The new ability is recovering MP through the Elemental Spirits.

As an aside, I actually walked out of the conference room when they said that was all they were doing for SMN.

I did read, just misinterpreted. I didn't consider restoring MP to be an actually abitility, but just a new fuction implanted into spirits. But now you have a new suggestion to think about.