SMN not a main? - Final Fantasy XI :: Dreams in Vana'diel :: Community

Galaxia · 09-29-2007, 06:18 AM

Hi everyone!

Was in a pt today and I was told by another SMN in pt that I should lvl another job....
When I asked why they explained that SMN wasn't a Main Job....
When asking why again

I got the reply "It's weak and only useful in set situations"

Should I really change to WHM?

Truece · 09-29-2007, 06:29 AM

If you enjoy playing SMN, then by all means level SMN! SMN and WHM are not interchangeable.

blobboid196 · 09-29-2007, 06:48 AM

anybody who says bull like that is weak and horribly under-experienced. only change to a new job if you get bored of SMN and want to try something else.

Balfree · 09-29-2007, 08:25 AM

Wow that is such blatant display of stupidity...

Every job is a main job.

Jei · 09-29-2007, 08:39 AM

SMN can certainly be a main job. But it's not an easy job to level up, especially if SMN is your first and highest job.
Once you get your SMN to 70+, SMN will become very sought after by every endgame LS.

Telera · 09-29-2007, 08:50 AM

Yeah, that was pure bullshit. Summoner was my main, and my *first* job, at that. I don't know if I can personally recommend others trying it as a first main, as you need either good friends for the Primes or patience and skill for the mini-primes. But then again, for me, aside from Summoner, the only other job I could have stood to take to 70 or so to get primes would have been Dragoon.

But yeah, that guy was an idiot. Every job is a main, but some are harder to take on as a first main than others. Do what you like if you enjoy it, and be good at it.

Nuriko · 09-29-2007, 09:08 AM

Just be aware that until you reach the high levels, most of the action you see is going to be as a pseudo-WHM (and you'll be highly sought after for Promies). I haven't taken SMN very far, but I was in a PT in the mid-60s on WHM with a SMN, and she was SO happy to actually be using SMN as you'd expect...

Aidryen · 09-29-2007, 09:31 AM

Yeah only twice have I seen a SMN actually used as a SMN, usually they are used as a healer although I don't agree with that, then again I don't agree with NIN as a tank either.

Galaxia · 09-29-2007, 10:16 AM

My SMN is lv 66 and I have all the Avatars already.

Malacite · 09-29-2007, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by Truece

If you enjoy playing SMN, then by all means level SMN! SMN and WHM are not interchangeable.

Coulda fooled me...

Rain_Blade · 10-01-2007, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by Galaxia

Hi everyone!

Was in a pt today and I was told by another SMN in pt that I should lvl another job....
When I asked why they explained that SMN wasn't a Main Job....
When asking why again

I got the reply "It's weak and only useful in set situations"

Should I really change to WHM?

Why the heck is the "other SMN" playing the job then? lol

For changing to whm, it's your choice. I'm not leveling since I already main heal on Summoner when told to. Also, if you happen to see him again, ask him to define "weak" because apparently I guess I may be wrong on what that definition means. =/

Anyway, if you love your job, then what's the reason to leave?

Taskmage · 10-01-2007, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by Malacite

Coulda fooled me...

Right, because whms are capable soloists, can compete in burst damage at high levels with blm, and when formed in an alliance can take down some of the toughest mobs in the game with no help from other jobs. Likewise, summoners are preferred healers for their ability to AoE cure once a minute if they don't buff anyone, the fact that you lose over a thousand exp when they have to raise you, their ability to cure petrification, and of course Cure III spam can keep up with most hard-hitting mobs in an mp and enmity efficient way. Give me a break. The jobs are very similar in exp grind parties, but grind is not the whole game. If you really think the two jobs are interchangable, you haven't played either.

Kardor · 10-01-2007, 10:43 PM

Damn you should straght ignore such ppl, i bet the u talked to is just lvling smn because he thinks he needs all jobs to be some sort of "pro".
When u are a SMN you will constantly hear all sorts of stupid comments of what you can do and what not it kinda belongs to the Job.

Smn was my first job choice and is my only char at 75 and i went through all the shit of it alone(mini pimes are shee frustrating). I dont play often and simply cannot get gil but iam happy with my smn for i see great potential in this job.

You can DD,Heal,Kite,Pull,Buff and of course you have the most shiniest pets ingame^^

Eww what did i want to say when i started this ...
Oh yea, as long as you feel fine with smn play it your way, keep an eye on your pt setup and their needs and they will start to love you.
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Eww sry for my bad grammar and of course for double posting^^

Malacite · 10-02-2007, 08:09 AM

And I suppose you're in utter disbelief of the Pink Mage as well TM?

Fact is SMN gets pidgeonholed into the WHM v2 role more often than not in EXP until 70+. That's what keeps me away from the job for now. I don't want to main heal. If I'm going to do that I'll go to WHM, and occasionally RDM (another job that's acting as full-time healer all too often)

I <3 the avatars, calling them out and playing with them. But until SE makes that practical as opposed to summon, BP, dismiss and go back to curing... I'm not taking SMN up a single level.

To those who enjoy the job, more power to you, but I personally will not deal with 69 levels of bull shit.

Omgwtfbbqkitten · 10-02-2007, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by Malacite

Fact is SMN gets pidgeonholed into the WHM v2 role more often than not in EXP until 70+.

What is SMN supposed to do when they are not summoning?

Stand there and look pretty?

SMNs that refuse to main heal are like CORs that refuse to pull - its something you CAN do and if needed, should be willing to do it. You get loads of MP, I have a gun. While these two facts can be used to the shallowest of ends, there is sliver of truth to why we get "pidgeonholed" into such duties.

Because we can do them.